NOC Lumiose Legends Mafia - GAME OVER (Mafia Win)

Blazade said:
Good morning

I forgot there wasn't mafia daytalk until.someone mentioned it. I actually think that makes D1 even worse since if they aren't coaching each other they can act more natural in thread which is disappointing.

Skip's acting weird but I think voting Vizh is something town skip does rather than mafia skip. It's ambitious, and so it feels genuine.

I have a problem with pulsar saying hopefully we get mech info in an earlier post. We should be sharing shit today. But that's something I expect from pulsar'a philosophy and I believe is NAI. I do expect that massclaim will happen around 3 and am much looking forward to being around when it makes sense to do it. (I consider myself to be a good mech solver) but we need to wait until then.

I think skip, AG, Vizh probably town

Sunny townlean

Others have left less of an impression.
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CrreamyKitty said:
Yes mafia absolutely can sit back and watch town blow itself up, it happens and it wins for scum, but when town is actually on the ball it is much better play to actually be in the thread, planting ideas, planting wagons, etc. than sitting around hoping townies (who have adjusted themselves to scumread exactly that kind if behavior) don’t notice you. And if you do have a bad situation like that in a town, you can identify what’s happening and what slots seem to be coasting and recover if town gets itself back together.

Unfortunately town does just blow itself apart with coasty scum because they just aren’t playing well often, but scum will do much better much more consistently if they get in the fray and incite even more destruction, and it’s ironically also much harder to identify because of the type of things good townies are looking for and because you naturally blend in when you’re blowing town up while a majority of town is also blowing town up.
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(TLDR: stop wasting votes on inactives early game pls)
 
NightEmerald said:
okay im here for real now. Initial skim reads are

charlie/sb town(high confidence) went through all their posts and all of them have been progressing the game and progressing their solve

vizh/ck town (vizh medium high ck medium) their conversation reads super t/t to me in a way mafia can't coordinate, vizh has some townier things earlier which is whi i have them higher, ill pull it up if necessary but i want to look into others first

hh feels unusually uninvested, because im pretty sure they were way solvier in past games

blazade's post earlier this page feels slightly frustrated in a way that i feel only comes from town blazade, why would mafia be all that frustrated about bad townplay

sunny's town (low/med confidence) i don't like how fast they were to push votes, but theyve been general scumhunting, also see them following a line of reasoning on aligning that i think is pretty good
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Pls do pull it up, I wanna not tunnel this slot if it’s town.
 
Duskfall98 said:
Wolves immediately early posts are different to towns via tmi, oftentimes wolves actually have too correct reads and confidence because town are like “ugh this is so random early”

But a wolf can oftentimes see a town make a post, think it looks townier than it is because they know it’s town and start clearing people they shouldn’t be, or sometimes newer wolves even to the same to their partners and start finding things scummy when they really aren’t but they just are too on the nose because they know the plan

Opposite that, some wolves are too afraid of committing to anything for fear of being called out

A lot of town tend to bumble about a bit before finding a world view they stick to somewhat, whereas wolves a lot of the time either skip the bumble about phase because they have a clear gameplan and tmi, or they bumble about forever for fear of being caught with incorrect reads
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putting this in low confidence town because it's pushing town agenda, it's not any higher because i played smallstreet
 
Vizh said:
Given pretty much the only thing Lechen was doing at this point was either embargoing or running the embargo, the lack of DBD is curious. What about Lechen's posting is different from DBD's?
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good line of reasoning
Vizh said:
I mean this in a nice way, but if you're going through, can't you just like messages as you read them?
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towny frustration
bluedoom said:
yeah I asked because I felt like that was worth a push, I think semantics based arguments this early feel more mafia-like because, what else are they going to push to start something? And tommy seems like the kinda player to do that. But also the guy is sick and I want to see more from him so idk. I'd have vote him if I was in your place tbh
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momentary intermission to say this reads town off mindmeld factor
 
skippergamez said:
can you please eloborate on this bc I feel like Aligning's other posts had been pretty good up to this point, but it felt like you just picked up random one liners to say it "rubbed you the wrong way" and "irked you"
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reading skipper i am reminded why i don't like reading skipper, gth id say it leans town because i don't think scum makes this post
 
CrreamyKitty said:
Actually ykw if this random shift is real it might be a good point, I’ll look for it

(This is literally what my AG townread was based on lol)
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Ok yeah I think what you’re talking about is the skipper shift, which isn’t exactly random as vizh had kinda set it up with their reads (skipper is around the bottom)

I do actually think it’s towny for diff reasons after a thought tho, it comes right after skip votes vizh (which makes it look like a blatant OMGUS, which idt s!vizh is the type of player to do) and the reasoning act looks pretty believable (+ maybe biased because I have some issues with skip slot asw)

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