NOC Lumiose Legends Mafia - GAME OVER (Mafia Win)

Votecount 2.1: Two Dead Newbies Edition
CrreamyKitty
(1): CrreamyKitty, Lechen
Vizh (1): Lechen
pulsar512b (1): Vizh

Not Voting (12): Aura Guardian, Dead by Daylight, HydrogenHydreigon, Mekkah, bluedoom, a fairy, skippergamez, charlieum, des121, pulsar512b, sunny004, NightEmerald

Hammer will be called at 8 votes.

Deadline is in 47 hours. Please notify me of any errors I may have made in this VC.
 
tfw I am right for once and end up getting read as wolf for it.

ASS could have easily claimed something like doc, rb, cop, etc. rather than something like a modposter (self confirmable ya dummies) with a passive redirector (also self confirmable you goon), in fact I don’t think he even has enough PR heavy game experience to know these roles could be feasibly faked, and he doesn’t have a daychat to be coached by anyone either.
Isn’t this last paragraph self contradictory?

- ASS (I hate this) could have claimed something that would make us spare them

- ASS (I still hate this) doesn’t have role madness experience, nor are they being actively coached
 
I feel like I need a reread with flips to actually get a read on Pulsar but I would like to go to bed in 15 and I'm definitely not getting through it in that time so I'm just going to try and push out frantic thoughts.

Of the offwagon gang I am never voting Mekkah today and would probably not vote bluedoom or Skip (who I've come around to leaning town on) either. Hydro and Sunny are a tier below that with good D1 posts but only for short periods of time so they aren't reaaally memorable enough for me to feel confident on, but I would not hit them over other people.

Withholding thoughts on AG and AF but I really want them to engage with the actual thread instead of each other because both have been kind of flies on the wall threadwise. What do you think of the last hour of the day? Pedit: SIGH I refreshed and AG claimed, the role is null but it does presuuumably lean fairy better depending on what it is. Want AG to outline why they chose fairy for their target on top of the previous.

Lechen's play is hella reactive but I'm ngl the Tommy flip makes me feel slightly better because I was worried his ott reaction the vote was s/s theatre. Skimming over it very quickly I would say the frustration does look real. Maf caught for the wrong reasons is a possibility though and the turnaround from voting DBD to save Vizh to turning around to push Vizh today is a bit stark and I do want that explained. I would say he's an unlikely pair with DBD at least.

Pulsar has not really done anything. Metawise people can say this is normal I guess but at the same time what does their scum meta actually look like? I am admittedly kind of interested in the fact there's more pressure on them when I can't remember like any reads they make but I don't want to get too deep into gamestate reads when uh, yesterday's DL happened.

2 minutes from my self-imposed shutoff time and and I haven't talked about DBD/NE fml, I would really like more decisive posts from them because it feels like a lot of waffle. e.g:

I feel like this could easily be an attempt to diversify wagons into T/T/T (or Law of Threes: NE is scum) from a leading town wagon.

Which do you think is the most likely scenario here?

Despite them being a leading D1 wagon I struggle to remember most of their posts then but I think that was kind of the point. I thought NE's progression onto voting DBD was weird yesterday and would want them to talk through why they joined the CFD onto AS when iirc their read on DBD was stronger.

LAST LAST THING I do strongly believe we will have a town vigilante in the game considering it is rolemadness so despite the horrendous hero shot if nobody CCs CK they are probably town. Two vigs are poooossible depending but I'm not sure.

Vote: NightEmerald

Sitting here for now, I will not be back until after work tomorrow. Good night.
 
Withholding thoughts on AG and AF but I really want them to engage with the actual thread instead of each other because both have been kind of flies on the wall threadwise. What do you think of the last hour of the day?
i dont have a ton of memories from my reread but i did not like it, i wish that i had not forgotten bc i would've believed their claim. i wouldve probably landed on DBD as an anti-star vote when time came to it, i like the DBD final wagon more than i liked the wagons when i complained about the top wagons before going afk, though i dunno that it would've had effect, even if star moved onto DBD with me it's still not maj. genuinely pissed i spent dl away cleaning the house, but i also dont know that i couldve done much other than try to convince folks that star's claim was actually kinda reasonable.
 
so as a tldr it's basically that they're both willing to put pressure on people, but also quick to back off? i can see it, but i feel like im biased wrt their conversation with me feeling like they actually were talking to me with thoughts on every slot rather than scum's usual fake reads on 1/2 slots
<ASS claim>
what the fuck?? theres no way this is real
vote: aligning
NE’s ASS progression toward EoD
numbers are confidence

Player List:
1. Aura Guardian 2
2. Dead by Daylight -1
3. Lechen 0
4. HydrogenHydreigon 5
5. Mekkah 0
6. Blazade 2
7. Duskfall98 1
8. bluedoom 3
9. a fairy 0
10. CrreamyKitty 5
11. skippergamez 3
12. Vizh 4
13. SB. 5
14. des121 -1
15. AligningStar 0
16. pulsar512b -3
17. sunny004 4
Previous overall reads


This was their explanation for DBD, when they “meant” to be voting Lechen
theres a perfectly good explanation: i mixed up dbd and lechen, i didn’t like lechen’s hedginess earlier and misremembered as dbd
 
okay im here for real now. Initial skim reads are

charlie/sb town(high confidence) went through all their posts and all of them have been progressing the game and progressing their solve

vizh/ck town (vizh medium high ck medium) their conversation reads super t/t to me in a way mafia can't coordinate, vizh has some townier things earlier which is whi i have them higher, ill pull it up if necessary but i want to look into others first

hh feels unusually uninvested, because im pretty sure they were way solvier in past games

blazade's post earlier this page feels slightly frustrated in a way that i feel only comes from town blazade, why would mafia be all that frustrated about bad townplay

sunny's town (low/med confidence) i don't like how fast they were to push votes, but theyve been general scumhunting, also see them following a line of reasoning on aligning that i think is pretty good
Plus this I missed, I think NE actually has some of the better progression on ASS
 
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