NOC Lumiose Legends Mafia - GAME OVER (Mafia Win)

a fairy said:
i def dont think it's maf since like, ag knows what i can do as a mega and is about to do it. i guess there's a chance that it's something a 3p could do? would be odd. im convinced it's towny tbh.
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If they do something very townie with the action sure? Being able to copy a hypothetically townie action is not necessarily townie though. If it has to be left for a day I guess that’s fine but I’m tired and don’t wanna read any more for today.

Don’t comment on if your action’s townie or whatever btw it probably doesn’t matter as much as keeping info silent.
 
charlieum said:
If they do something very townie with the action sure? Being able to copy a hypothetically townie action is not necessarily townie though. If it has to be left for a day I guess that’s fine but I’m tired and don’t wanna read any more for today.

Don’t comment on if your action’s townie or whatever btw it probably doesn’t matter as much as keeping info silent.
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fair. ig there's a world where it's maf!AG and they saw my shit and went, oh damn i can pocket the fuck out of her. but i dont think this is that.
 
Vizh said:
Is there someone that you would actually like to vote?
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ag and mekkah: off the table for me right now due to my thing going on with ag right now
lechen and hh: had that wack-ass fight, im currently convinced they're t/t. hh is acting just like town hh does, and the anger lechen went through is very standard lechen
bd, skipper, pulsar, ne, dbd: i feel like i havent seen a ton from these folks, so my vote is probably going to end up somewhere in here if i had to lock in a vote right now
ck, vizh, charlie, des: all feel like they're working to solve the game. this probably isnt a purely innocent group, but i'd not be thrilled to vote in this group since my feeling is that these are most of the solvy active players
 
Vizh said:
Really? des? Solvy?

What do you think about bluedoom’s push for NE?
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re: des, she's actually posting regularly and engaging in conversation, unlike group 3.
re: bd on ne, i looked through his posts today and it's kinda chaotic, opens with "NE my view is still the same as last phase" and then spends most of his time talking about other people. a glance at 1550 makes me feel like the case is week, d1 progression especially a d1 that ended on a random shift to star makes me think that trying to pick apart d1 progressions is not super valuable
 
I feel like my two biggest scumleans rn are Lechen and bluedoom.

I think his attitude towards d1 was a little too much in a way where he was like over the top about it. Today, he really hasn’t done much but I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt for right now.

Bluedoom d1 just kinda made a small push on me and then just died.

Also this progression
bluedoom said:
Hmm, I kinda like the idea of voting NE because he hasn't said something, but AS makes a good point that Vizh's questions don't feel like they're going anywhere.

Unvote Vote:Vizh
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bluedoom said:
Oh that's interesting, I agree with flipping aligning before Vizh, I think it makes more sense too with how much Vizh has interacted with the thread.

Would you think that both Vizh and skip are town here, and if so, what do you think scum is doing atp with t/t wagons? The first thing i thought of was that maybe aligning was going off a votepark on Vizh and not interacting with the thread much, just coasting. But I'm wondering if there's merit in looking into the skipper voters too.
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Where it’s like you’re allowed to change your mind but it sorta feels like a 180 especially considering that it involves both AS and Vizh
 
a fairy said:
ag and mekkah: off the table for me right now due to my thing going on with ag right now
lechen and hh: had that wack-ass fight, im currently convinced they're t/t. hh is acting just like town hh does, and the anger lechen went through is very standard lechen
bd, skipper, pulsar, ne, dbd: i feel like i havent seen a ton from these folks, so my vote is probably going to end up somewhere in here if i had to lock in a vote right now
ck, vizh, charlie, des: all feel like they're working to solve the game. this probably isnt a purely innocent group, but i'd not be thrilled to vote in this group since my feeling is that these are most of the solvy active players
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Dbd said he would post when home.
 
bluedoom said:
I'm not voting skip because I'm kinda paranoid about it with how easy of a miselim he can be, but I still would want more out of him wrt a vote and where his head's at on who he wants out. Because it did read like a scummy listpost to me.

Vizh feels like a better vote to me with how much prodding he's doing with seemingly little follow up, I'm not tied to this but I think with what's there in the thread so far its fine
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This is a more recent one to the first one skipper mentioned
bluedoom said:
Unvote

I'm having this problem where every time I scum read someone, my brain formulates a reason for why that could come from town too, decision paralysis at its worst

I'm personally fine with Vizh's reads post from pages earlier though. Thinking that the vote could go on NE(I'm not sure how dbd is the take away vote after his analysis), maybe CK(I'm gonna reread him but my first impression was that the progression of his reads felt off to me). I'd probably not vote skip, kinda ok seeing where his reads are going. skippergamez can you explain your read on charlie/sb to me?

I think I'd also consider voting aligningstar here, there isn't anything else i remember from them other than a case on Vizh.
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Here’s their progression off of me, with the context of being the first one to raise this concern on Aligning
bluedoom said:
-There's enough in this thread for AligningStars to have more reads than his RVS case on Vizh, which makes me think that he's a good vote right about now.

Think I'm willing to vote from whoever I listed. Vote: AligningStars
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Ending up on Aligning

I do think there’s not horrible progression from me -> AligningStar but I agree it’s not great given it’s basically agreeing with them about the reasons for voting me -> voting them for not doing anything else other than having reasons for voting me
 
Vizh said:
This is a more recent one to the first one skipper mentioned

Here’s their progression off of me, with the context of being the first one to raise this concern on Aligning

Ending up on Aligning

I do think there’s not horrible progression from me -> AligningStar but I agree it’s not great given it’s basically agreeing with them about the reasons for voting me -> voting them for not doing anything else other than having reasons for voting me
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no what im saying like is that i dont put a ton of stock into progression scrumreads from d1 when d1 had the star vote. like im sure their progression was logical enough but like, it's a d1 progression in the first place, let alone a d1 w/ that vote. so i dont hold it to a ton of value personally. plus he's right now on pulsar, which is who NE was talking about that bd didnt like the progression on
 
a fairy said:
no what im saying like is that i dont put a ton of stock into progression scrumreads from d1 when d1 had the star vote. like im sure their progression was logical enough but like, it's a d1 progression in the first place, let alone a d1 w/ that vote. so i dont hold it to a ton of value personally. plus he's right now on pulsar, which is who NE was talking about that bd didnt like the progression on
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Yeah I was moreso responding to skipper, where yes the progression is like eh but it’s not that eh with the context of some of bluedoom’s other posts
 
skippergamez said:
Lechen now that reads aren’t useless what are you’re thoughts
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Town: me

Townread: ag/fairy: meched each other, could be like double scum powerwolfing but rn I think that's relatively unlikely cause af isn't pushing anything rn/ag followed charlie on NE vote

Townlean:
mekkah: good spreadsheet, decent solving contribution, good vibes)
Hyhy: I omgused this slot, but on a reread he has good posts that are actively helping to solve the gane such as 1507, which makes me feel worse on charlieum

Slight Townlean:
charlieum: contributing to solving and honestly I think I like most of their posts, but I agree with hyhy and that 1298 does read like TMI. Without it I would townread this slot

Null:
Pulsar: whatever slot, I do think this slot's inactivity is in line with her previous games (unlike this dbd), and scum pulsar as in town of Salem was much more active I think
Bluedoom: I genuinely don't remember a single thing this guy posted lol but I mindmeld with 1582 on an iso, that line doesn't rly feel like something an person with TMI would say and I feel really similar
Vizh: I don't like this slot off vibes but CK seems to lockscum him and was gonna vfr him and I really don't like CK's slot. Likely gonna be scumlean if CK flips town.
des: this slot is unreadable and probably a COPPA violation lol

Slight Scumlean:

Sunny: I don't remember anything this guy posted, but 1453 is a decent post I suppose

Scumlean:

NE: this inactivity from this slot feels like last game where he was scum

Scumread:

Skipper: I genuinely don't think I like a single post from this guy, he tunneled me for "pushing an agenda that benefits scum" but I genuinely think day 1 is a fucking rand but no because my beliefs don't align with his I have to be scum in his eyes
DBD: no posts, weird from dbd because this guy is usually more active midgame compared to this game, 0 content. Dead by Daylight if you are town, I think ngl you should consider if you have enough time to play a game
CK: killed tommy, last end of day feels like he was trying to powerwolf vfr people, something that benefits mafia as town can't really believe the claims and scum gets free info

I honestly feel like scum is just skipper+dbd+CK+ 1
 
charlieum said:
Trying to think a bit about Lechen's cooldown period post HH vote, I rechecked their posts prior the DBD vote and they didn't really have anything else all of D1. Lechen at the start of the day you said Vizh looked worse when you didn't have a read on them yesterday. I know you've went back on it since then, but can you explain what you didn't like from Vizh's D1 and what changed your mind since?
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I genuinely don't remember what I don't like about Vizh's day 1, during break days I skim the entire thread again, and I think his posts were generally scummy and some of his posts generally feel awkward. Changed my mind because of CK and him can't be on a scumteam together after last eod and I think CK is scum
 
Lechen said:
Town: me

Townread: ag/fairy: meched each other, could be like double scum powerwolfing but rn I think that's relatively unlikely cause af isn't pushing anything rn/ag followed charlie on NE vote

Townlean:
mekkah: good spreadsheet, decent solving contribution, good vibes)
Hyhy: I omgused this slot, but on a reread he has good posts that are actively helping to solve the gane such as 1507, which makes me feel worse on charlieum

Slight Townlean:
charlieum: contributing to solving and honestly I think I like most of their posts, but I agree with hyhy and that 1298 does read like TMI. Without it I would townread this slot

Null:
Pulsar: whatever slot, I do think this slot's inactivity is in line with her previous games (unlike this dbd), and scum pulsar as in town of Salem was much more active I think
Bluedoom: I genuinely don't remember a single thing this guy posted lol but I mindmeld with 1582 on an iso, that line doesn't rly feel like something an person with TMI would say and I feel really similar
Vizh: I don't like this slot off vibes but CK seems to lockscum him and was gonna vfr him and I really don't like CK's slot. Likely gonna be scumlean if CK flips town.
des: this slot is unreadable and probably a COPPA violation lol

Slight Scumlean:

Sunny: I don't remember anything this guy posted, but 1453 is a decent post I suppose

Scumlean:

NE: this inactivity from this slot feels like last game where he was scum

Scumread:

Skipper: I genuinely don't think I like a single post from this guy, he tunneled me for "pushing an agenda that benefits scum" but I genuinely think day 1 is a fucking rand but no because my beliefs don't align with his I have to be scum in his eyes
DBD: no posts, weird from dbd because this guy is usually more active midgame compared to this game, 0 content. Dead by Daylight if you are town, I think ngl you should consider if you have enough time to play a game
CK: killed tommy, last end of day feels like he was trying to powerwolf vfr people, something that benefits mafia as town can't really believe the claims and scum gets free info

I honestly feel like scum is just skipper+dbd+CK+ 1
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I really like your reads
 
Lechen said:
Town: me

Townread: ag/fairy: meched each other, could be like double scum powerwolfing but rn I think that's relatively unlikely cause af isn't pushing anything rn/ag followed charlie on NE vote

Townlean:
mekkah: good spreadsheet, decent solving contribution, good vibes)
Hyhy: I omgused this slot, but on a reread he has good posts that are actively helping to solve the gane such as 1507, which makes me feel worse on charlieum

Slight Townlean:
charlieum: contributing to solving and honestly I think I like most of their posts, but I agree with hyhy and that 1298 does read like TMI. Without it I would townread this slot

Null:
Pulsar: whatever slot, I do think this slot's inactivity is in line with her previous games (unlike this dbd), and scum pulsar as in town of Salem was much more active I think
Bluedoom: I genuinely don't remember a single thing this guy posted lol but I mindmeld with 1582 on an iso, that line doesn't rly feel like something an person with TMI would say and I feel really similar
Vizh: I don't like this slot off vibes but CK seems to lockscum him and was gonna vfr him and I really don't like CK's slot. Likely gonna be scumlean if CK flips town.
des: this slot is unreadable and probably a COPPA violation lol

Slight Scumlean:

Sunny: I don't remember anything this guy posted, but 1453 is a decent post I suppose

Scumlean:

NE: this inactivity from this slot feels like last game where he was scum

Scumread:

Skipper: I genuinely don't think I like a single post from this guy, he tunneled me for "pushing an agenda that benefits scum" but I genuinely think day 1 is a fucking rand but no because my beliefs don't align with his I have to be scum in his eyes
DBD: no posts, weird from dbd because this guy is usually more active midgame compared to this game, 0 content. Dead by Daylight if you are town, I think ngl you should consider if you have enough time to play a game
CK: killed tommy, last end of day feels like he was trying to powerwolf vfr people, something that benefits mafia as town can't really believe the claims and scum gets free info

I honestly feel like scum is just skipper+dbd+CK+ 1
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So you actively don’t believe CK’s claim? If CK is scum, why fakeclaim a vig on D2, when there could just as easily be a fakeclaim?

Given you above acknowledge that you OMGUS’d Hydro, is it possible that you’re just OMGUSsing skipper or is it an actual read?

Worth noting it’s AG clearing a fairy and not vice versa too
 
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