NOC Lumiose Legends Mafia - GAME OVER (Mafia Win)

Votecount 2.4: I Hate des With a Burning Passion
pulsar512b (3): Vizh, bluedoom, des121
charlieum (1): Aura Guardian
CrreamyKitty (1): Lechen
Dead by Daylight (1): Lechen
des121 (1): Dead by Daylight
Aura Guardian (1): charlieum
Vizh (0): CrreamyKitty

Not Voting (7): HydrogenHydreigon, Mekkah, a fairy, skippergamez, pulsar512b, sunny004, NightEmerald

Hammer will be called at 8 votes.

Deadline is in 22 hours. Please notify me of any errors I may have made in this VC.
 
Vizh said:
So you actively don’t believe CK’s claim? If CK is scum, why fakeclaim a vig on D2, when there could just as easily be a fakeclaim?

Given you above acknowledge that you OMGUS’d Hydro, is it possible that you’re just OMGUSsing skipper or is it an actual read?

Worth noting it’s AG clearing a fairy and not vice versa too
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1. it's still something scummy, and we can't rationalise everything someone does as, scum would never do that because its too scummy for them to do. maybe he was scared he was watched? idk. good point though
2. skipper is a real read
3. sure
 
StupidFlandrs48 said:
Votecount 2.4: I Hate des With a Burning Passion
pulsar512b (3): Vizh, bluedoom, des121
charlieum (1): Aura Guardian
CrreamyKitty (1): Lechen
Dead by Daylight (1): Lechen
des121 (1): Dead by Daylight
Aura Guardian (1): charlieum
Vizh (0): CrreamyKitty

Not Voting (7): HydrogenHydreigon, Mekkah, a fairy, skippergamez, pulsar512b, sunny004, NightEmerald

Hammer will be called at 8 votes.

Deadline is in 22 hours. Please notify me of any errors I may have made in this VC.
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lol and i thought i was your friend
 
Lechen said:
Town: me

Townread: ag/fairy: meched each other, could be like double scum powerwolfing but rn I think that's relatively unlikely cause af isn't pushing anything rn/ag followed charlie on NE vote

Townlean:
mekkah: good spreadsheet, decent solving contribution, good vibes)
Hyhy: I omgused this slot, but on a reread he has good posts that are actively helping to solve the gane such as 1507, which makes me feel worse on charlieum

Slight Townlean:
charlieum: contributing to solving and honestly I think I like most of their posts, but I agree with hyhy and that 1298 does read like TMI. Without it I would townread this slot

Null:
Pulsar: whatever slot, I do think this slot's inactivity is in line with her previous games (unlike this dbd), and scum pulsar as in town of Salem was much more active I think
Bluedoom: I genuinely don't remember a single thing this guy posted lol but I mindmeld with 1582 on an iso, that line doesn't rly feel like something an person with TMI would say and I feel really similar
Vizh: I don't like this slot off vibes but CK seems to lockscum him and was gonna vfr him and I really don't like CK's slot. Likely gonna be scumlean if CK flips town.
des: this slot is unreadable and probably a COPPA violation lol

Slight Scumlean:

Sunny: I don't remember anything this guy posted, but 1453 is a decent post I suppose

Scumlean:

NE: this inactivity from this slot feels like last game where he was scum

Scumread:

Skipper: I genuinely don't think I like a single post from this guy, he tunneled me for "pushing an agenda that benefits scum" but I genuinely think day 1 is a fucking rand but no because my beliefs don't align with his I have to be scum in his eyes
DBD: no posts, weird from dbd because this guy is usually more active midgame compared to this game, 0 content. Dead by Daylight if you are town, I think ngl you should consider if you have enough time to play a game
CK: killed tommy, last end of day feels like he was trying to powerwolf vfr people, something that benefits mafia as town can't really believe the claims and scum gets free info

I honestly feel like scum is just skipper+dbd+CK+ 1
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While I don't have much time, I'd like to say that I get good vibes from Lechen now, and can't disagree much with his reasoning.
 
StupidFlandrs48 said:
Votecount 2.4: I Hate des With a Burning Passion
pulsar512b (3): Vizh, bluedoom, des121
charlieum (1): Aura Guardian
CrreamyKitty (1): Lechen
Dead by Daylight (1): Lechen
des121 (1): Dead by Daylight
Aura Guardian (1): charlieum
Vizh (0): CrreamyKitty

Not Voting (7): HydrogenHydreigon, Mekkah, a fairy, skippergamez, pulsar512b, sunny004, NightEmerald

Hammer will be called at 8 votes.

Deadline is in 22 hours. Please notify me of any errors I may have made in this VC.
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HydrogenHydreigon Mekkah a fairy skippergamez pulsar512b sunny004 NightEmerald vote
 
charlieum said:
bluedoom how have you arrived at AG and Lechen as your strongest townreads here? Is there anything beyond meta? I feel like half the reads in this game (not just yours) are "x does this in their town meta" but like, are they actually? Or is it just how they normally play regardless of alignment and that the scummy stuff they're doing is actually just scummy.
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Tbh I should probably put you above them since I've liked your d2 so far

The thing is if half the reads are like this, and outside of meta almost all of them don't make sense as town behaviour, what tool do you use to sift through it?

The reason I'm using meta heavily wrt those two is because I spent the entire game as mafia in the previous game casing them for the same reasons they're being cased for this game, so at least from my perspective its a thing that I'm aware of.

The only other person I'd use the same meta on from the reverse is NE given that the guy hasn't even posted today. How is the guy who signed up excited to play with a bunch of the pl not even posting today? People defending him saying he has a life, that doesn't even fly lol.
 
skippergamez said:
I feel like my two biggest scumleans rn are Lechen and bluedoom.

I think his attitude towards d1 was a little too much in a way where he was like over the top about it. Today, he really hasn’t done much but I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt for right now.

Bluedoom d1 just kinda made a small push on me and then just died.

Also this progression


Where it’s like you’re allowed to change your mind but it sorta feels like a 180 especially considering that it involves both AS and Vizh
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What happened to your own Vizh read, given that he was your strongest scum read d1? And what about the charlie/sunny scum reads that you had?

I thought Vizh was scummy, saw him post more content, realised that AS had barely said anything else, and voted him for it because I thought that he was mafia trying to coast off of an ED1 vote. And then I switched to NE because I thought that he was coasting even harder and his cases were weak.

How is that a bad progression?
 
CrreamyKitty when you get on again, can you look at EoD1, and tell me what is your process for solving here? I would like you to engage with my posts today and tell me if your disagree with my reads, and why if so.

It kinda feels like you're shooting down certain reads because they're low activity and won't reveal much info, and while I agree with you that its bad for a d1 vote, I feel like there's enough information in the thread so far that they're not bad for a d2 vote. I feel like voting "active" players runs the risk of what happened with the duskfall vig anyway.
 
Lechen why is your vote on the claimed vig again?

And honestly to people scum reading ck, do you think that he's specifically a non town vig? Because if you think that he's mafia fakeclaiming it just resolves itself by the real vig shooting ck tonight.

The only way this doesn't resolve is if you think that a vig doesn't exist in this game(but then its a stupid claim from ck because he can't prove his role by shooting multiple times) and the mafia have it as a fake claim OR that the vig exists but its specifically anti town(and those are much bigger mental gymnastics to pull here).
 
bluedoom said:
Lechen why is your vote on the claimed vig again?

And honestly to people scum reading ck, do you think that he's specifically a non town vig? Because if you think that he's mafia fakeclaiming it just resolves itself by the real vig shooting ck tonight.

The only way this doesn't resolve is if you think that a vig doesn't exist in this game(but then its a stupid claim from ck because he can't prove his role by shooting multiple times) and the mafia have it as a fake claim OR that the vig exists but its specifically anti town(and those are much bigger mental gymnastics to pull here).
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I really dislike the tommy draco, i think hes a wolf but maybe I'm tunneling too hard. I could get behind letting him live and voting him tmr if scum doesn't kill him
 
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