NOC Town of Salem 2 Mafia: Revival - WON BY THE MAFIA AND THE WITCH

can transporter be mafia I glanced at the setup and my thought is no but I want to confirm

That's probably it. As A fairy said Hydro was a reasonable target for a Night 1 kill so maybe they thought Roxie is scum.
if this person actually made their transport decision based on thinking someone was scum they are thinking about this game at a level I don't think I can ever get to and I need them to pm me so I can sheep whatever they tell me
 
can transporter be mafia I glanced at the setup and my thought is no but I want to confirm


if this person actually made their transport decision based on thinking someone was scum they are thinking about this game at a level I don't think I can ever get to and I need them to pm me so I can sheep whatever they tell me
transporter can't be scum, the role list lists out each role and their faction
 
I don’t see how Alice is town unless Roxie somehow targeted themselves with the kill, if anyone got transported please claim it - if not, then I’m inclined to vote her off
I do think the kill on Roxie was transported because as af said usually smogmaf kills the experienced players first and not the newbies
 
What are all the ways the “was killed by mafia” could be false btw that’s a variable we haven’t discussed much I think

I get the vibe it’s more than just framer
 
Finishing up a bit early!

After a night where everyone was on edge, you all wake up at the crack of dawn, the cry of a rooster resonating through the town. Maybe everything was just a bad dream... However, you are all mortified as you see your good friend lying in the middle of town, dead.

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roxie died last night

They were killed by a member of the Mafia.


roxie's role could not be determined...

We could not find a last will.

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It is now Day 2, this day will last 48 hours, voting is enabled. You may begin discussing.

Whispers are now enabled. Hammer requires 9 votes.

Deadline is Thursday the 9th at 11pm GMT-4.
I checked because of Jalmont's comment but shouldn't this be Friday 9th? Or is it Thursday 8th?
 
If you are the Transporter and did NOT Transport HyHy, please speak up. Doing so would catch both Alice and HyHy as lying.

But for now, I'm going to assume the transport happened and say HyHy is probably very clear, and Alice somewhat clear.
 
Well, while I was reading to catch up, I initially thought Alice was lying.

I really liked Miyami's theories. It seems she was right with her transporter theory. I think she has very good analytical skills, or she's part of the mafia and that's why she figured out what happened so quickly :thinking:

There's a tiny chance that Alice simply picked a random list of roles and/or used some knowledge to try to pretend to be an investigator. (This is doesn't make sense if Lookout works as I say later, this was my thought before reading the investigator and lookout role cards)

Assuming someone transported Roxie and HydrogenHydreigon, there's no doubt that Roxie was the janitor, right?

I'm a bit confused about DBD's result. I understood it was a Lookout. Isn't that action unaffected by the transporter? From everything that was said, I understand it isn’t affected, but I’d like to confirm I’m getting things right.
 
unless I'm misreading things it looks like this line of thinking is a miss for now

can we no vote lol? I assume that's especially bad in tos.

9v4v1v1. wow these uh numbers seem pretty difficult to overcome with just below average luck.
 
if this person actually made their transport decision based on thinking someone was scum they are thinking about this game at a level I don't think I can ever get to and I need them to pm me so I can sheep whatever they tell me
roxie's thing about there being a witch d1 seemed weird to me - but in my head I classified it as a vet bait rather than a scumread
 
If we are thinking HyHy and Roxie were transported, then all of the following must be true:

Mafia chose to kill/clean HyHy
Dbd targeted Roxie, but actually watched HyHy
Alice targeted Roxie, but actually visited HyHy and was seen by Dbd
Roxie targeted themself, but actually visited HyHy (how?) and was seen by Dbd
Alice and Roxie cannot be the killer or janitor
 
We know Roxie couldn't have been self-targeting Doc, BG, or Crusader because those would've resulted in Roxie not dying. I think that leaves the options for Roxie as:

Lookout
Trapper
Ambusher - if one of the visitors had defense
Recon
Disguiser
Forger (but self targeting n1 would be really weird)
 
roxie's thing about there being a witch d1 seemed weird to me - but in my head I classified it as a vet bait rather than a scumread
That's like the only thing he has as a reason for being targeted n1, at least it was my reason for the investigation.
unless I'm misreading things it looks like this line of thinking is a miss for now

can we no vote lol? I assume that's especially bad in tos.

9v4v1v1. wow these uh numbers seem pretty difficult to overcome with just below average luck.

He never learns :blobpensive:

I guess the (how?) should be on Roxie targeting themself, since the redirect to HyHy part makes sense
There are probably roles that can target themselves. One of them is transporter but transporter doesn't visit so that's ruled out.

I did mention them earlier and other users too it's probably one of spy, lookout, doctor or trapper.

Disguiser can actually self target as well?
 
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