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It is actually on of the few pre evolutions to be faster than its evolution, being 20 points faster than Coalossal and sharing a speed tier with kingambit, this is likely because of Carkol is a minecart pokemon that can roll at high speeds due to its legs being very similar to wheels, whilst Coalossol is merely a standard bipedal pokemon that walks instead of rolling, it may also be so coalossal can have 110/120/90 bulk and 80/80 offenses whilst retaining a modest base stat total of 510, since Carkol is a rock type that can reach high speeds by rolling, it could very much be considered a “rolling stone”.

Speaking of speed, Carkol in lore is quite fast and can reaches speeds of up to 18 miles per hour due to it rapidly rolling its legs, it probably doesn’t move faster because its legs don’t resemble wheels enough as Carkol also wants to able to walk, this was likely solved in the future by making robotic carkols that aren’t sentient so they don’t want to walk and function like minecarts.

Something that will also likely be solved in the future is the fact that the Carkol line is actually the only rock types to be the color black, this because they are coal pokemon so they would be the only rock types so far to mostly consist of the color black.
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Another thing that is black is the tar on Carkol’s back which according to its Scarlet dex entry, keeps the coal on its back from completely falling off even as it travels at maximum speeds

On the topic of maximum speeds, with the unique ability steam engine (which is the signature ability of the Carkol line) Carkol can actually outspeed the entire unboosted metegame after being hit with a fire move or somehow not getting promptly evaporated by a water move by sheer willpower inherited by its hisuian ancestors that went extinct before being discovered, it can hit 796 speed with max speed evs and a neutral nature after getting its ability activated, outspeeding scarf deoxys speed, every swift swimmer except jolly barraskewda, every booster speed user including iron valiant and iron fraud (not saying which fraud) and all but 3 pokemon listed on the ou speed tiers, this gives Carkol an edge as an abuser of steam engine compared the bulkier and more powerful Coalossal which has 696 speed with speed boosting nature, missing multiple crucial targets even with a nature to hit max speed, speed boosting Coalossal also only has slightly higher power than attack boosting nature Carkol, having 259 in its invested offence compared to 240.


The only thing stranger than that is that despite being a gen 8 pokemon, Carkol did not make an appearance in that generation’s anime even when the main characters went to the Galar region multiple times and instead debuted in Horizons, where it helps fuel the Brave Olivine. This likely because Coalossal’s only appearance was when a singular Coalossal was struck by dynamax energy and went on a rampage, so there wasn’t any way to fit Carkol (or Rolycoly) in the story of journeys at any point.


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You know who else is a fire type that's slower than its preevolution because it's bipedal instead of quadrupedal? That's right, it's everyone's favorite pokemon incineroar.

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Incineroar has no lore reason to lose speed because torracat didn’t utilise any wheel like limbs to roll at speeds like nor was it a minecart pokemon, it just walked like a regular cat, so Incineroar losing speed is likely purely for it to have 115/80 usable whilst retaining a modest base stat total of 530 unlike Coalossal having to walk normally which resulted in lower speed.

Its also because Incineroar is stupid.
 
Carkol not evolving into Koltrain will forever be one of the biggest blunders in Pokemon history. They had it right in front of them. The perfect Pokemon concept. The coolest thing possible. A god damn fire train. Yet instead they went with generic monster. Fuck you Gamefreak. We were robbed of greatness.

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But noooo we just get "some guy"
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Dexit was bad. Suing Palworld was bad. Ripping Carkoal's evolution's soul out was the worst. I hate you Gamefreak.
 
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I think you're using "no soul" to mean "thing I don't like." The design that has the least soul (inspiration, thought, effort, creativity, etc.) here is the second one, which rips off a train and awkwardly, clumsily adds in Carkol pieces to try and make it work, not thinking about design cohesion. Something interesting might be going on with the back legs, and maybe that could change my mentality, but I'm judging the thing that I actually see.

Beyond that, I think the third, fourth, and in-game Coalossal are pretty similar in soul. None of them are tremendously ambitious in concept, but they put in enough beyond the minimum to earn my passing grade.

The third is a pretty familiar idea very committal on what it wants to be, which I respect, and the eye formation and background spire adding to the ominousness.

I'm not sure it would thrive as an in-game model versus a concept art, since the concept art helps it demonstrate its powerful scale, but I'd at least be curious to see.

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The fourth brings together two ideas that arent commonly together, but it seemingly doesn't put in the legwork to make the design more than the sum of its parts. It reads like it's trying to make millipede + train work, versus trying to make it excel.

I dislike designs like this, but like it's fine, there's no serious weakness in execution. Maybe more legs would help. I'm ambivalent on the front protrusion.

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I agree that big monster reads as uninspiring for Coalossal. However, there's some subtle grace here. A colossus carrying around its own burning mountainous power source is really interesting I think, and evokes a unique battle style. I can absolutely imagine it using the power of its stack to billow flames from its glowing mouth, and that kind of direct transition to action is very powerful for a still image. The jagged, blocky, spiky design hints at the inefficiency of coal as a power source, giving it a very unique silhouette. This is a bit hazier but also just, the idea that the fire of its fuel could theoretically spread to the rest of its rawer-coal body if hot and strong enough is pretty hardcore.

I think it is about average by Pokemon standards, which is a high bar – Pokemon designs are well made in general.

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I'm currently undecided on Cokomotive, besides it having the worst possible name. It's clearly unconventional, but I'd need more time to really solidly decide whether it seems inspired or throws random gunk into the shape of a train. Initial impressions are softly positive.

Also, I'm a bit confused that it evolves from the LC with a Fire Stone. It might be intended as an alternate to Coalossal? That could be interesting, having either a 3-stage or a 2-stage evolutionary path for the same Pokemon.

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The first one is fantastic. I see this as decisively better than what we have. It's drawn so vivid and alive and real. However, it might be best as a G-Max versus a base design, both for scale and for having the size to better implement certain design subtleties. It could probably go either way.

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Oh I did not realize I was commenting in the Carkol thread. Carkol is a Pokemon. I agree with this.
 
Carkol not evolving into Koltrain will forever be one of the biggest blunders in Pokemon history. They had it right in front of them. The perfect Pokemon concept. The coolest thing possible. A god damn fire train. Yet instead they went with generic monster. Fuck you Gamefreak. We were robbed of greatness.

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Dexit was bad. Suing Palworld was bad. Ripping Carkoal's evolution's soul out was the worst. I hate you Gamefreak.
Koltrain would have been, ahem, a giant step for game freak
 
Carkol can sweep utilising curse, since its so fast with its engine boost, the lowered speed won’t be a severe drawback, curse not only boosts attack but also defense which makes it harder to revenge kill and also allows it to potentially kill more pokemon that it doesn’t kill before it can avoid taking damage, it mainly uses high bp moves like stone edge or flat blitz to maximise its damage output, it can be considered a better curse engine sweeper than coalossal since its less affected by relying on a 3.5x speed boost, but this can only sweep once in a blue moon and probably hasn’t swept anyone before

However, it faces stiff competition from coalossal as a meteor+herb sweeper, it only has higher speed going for it since it cannot use eviolite and has a lower damage output, but if you need a high specific sweeper that gains massive speed to outspeed everything, maybe try on a low ladder alt in a low tier

Carkol’s coal was also used to fuel people’s lives once it fell off the pokemon, its also implied in rolycoly’s entries that it is not coal, as chunk of its body were mentioned to used as an alternative to coal despite a previous entry stating most of its body has the same composition as coal which could also imply rolycoly’s coal was just used as an alternative to normal coal, if rolycoly wasn’t really coal (possibly hinted from its lack of fire typing) then it most likely ends becoming coal upon evolution, as the rocks on carkol’s body is outright stated to be coal. Maybe it gains fire typing to avoid Dwebble that try to make it a home out of it.
I can’t believe its not coal!
 
Do you guys remember that pre-fulldex Balanced Hackmons team that was using levitate eviolite Carkol? What was up with that? I’m pretty sure it was a Rayquaza improof but why not like. Any other rock type.
 
Do you guys remember that pre-fulldex Balanced Hackmons team that was using levitate eviolite Carkol? What was up with that? I’m pretty sure it was a Rayquaza improof but why not like. Any other rock type.
carkol just happens to have really impressive mixed bulk for a rock-type NFE I guess, like with eviolite (+ max investment) you effectively have a spread of 80/160/130. pretty much every other rock either has way worse special bulk or strictly worse physdef
 
carkol just happens to have really impressive mixed bulk for a rock-type NFE I guess, like with eviolite (+ max investment) you effectively have a spread of 80/160/130. pretty much every other rock either has way worse special bulk or strictly worse physdef
yeah ok but like
rhydon also has impressive bulk
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that physdef increase is so substantial that idk dude
 
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Carkol is one of the few pokemon to retain access to scald which a move that pokemon like Toxapex and Gastrodon lost and is also one of the few fire types that can learn the move, its also worth noting that carkol cannot learn the move via TR/TM as a Rolycoly, likely because Rolycoly is not a fire type.
 
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