RMT: Gravity Team for Doubles

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Hi, I decided to make a Gravity Team. This a doubles team


Team at a Glance:
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Team in Depth:
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Aerodactyl @ Focus Sash
Levitate
Jolly 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
-Stealth Rock
-Earthquake
-Rock Slide
-Taunt
Aerodactly uses Taunt to stop many team from setting up, then stealth rock. It will then use Rockslide and when Clafable is done setting up Earthquake.
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Clefable @ Leftovers
Magic Guard
Bold 252 HP / 252 Def / 2 SpD
-Thunder Wave
-Gravity
-Follow Me
-Softboiled / Protect
This is my follow me support, all I can say is I hope it works.

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Starmie @ Leftovers
Natural Cure
Timid 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
-Hydro Pump
-Blizzard
-Thunder
-Recover
Starmie Abuses Gravity with three strong but inaccurate mores reaching 100% accuracy with Gravity

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Dusknoir @ Leftovers
Pressure
Impish 252 HP / 252 Def / 6 SpD
-Gravity
-Pain Split
-Trick Room / Protect
-Dynamicpunch
Resists Earthquake from Mamoswine with its super high Defense Stat, uses Pain Split as a very good recovery move. Also uses Gravity if needed.

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Mamoswine @ Life Orb
Snow Cloak
Naughty 252 Atk / 20 SpA / 236 Spe
-Earthquake
-Blizzard
-Stone Edge
-Reflect
I need Reflect for Blissey. So if I get a chance I'll use it, This is a pretty straight forward Mix Mamo set. Earthquake or Blizzard (depends on my foes pokemon typing)

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Blissey @ Leftovers
Serene Grace
Bold 252 Def / 80 SpA / 176 SpD
-Sing
-Blizzard
-Gravity
-Softboiled
My Blissey help with status conditions and uses gravity to help give Blizzard more accuracy.


Ok there you have it, I did my best to use gravity to its fullest potential. Any help with the movesets, EVs, swaping Pokemon, etc is greatly appreciated ty.

Changes in bold
 
Only have time for a quick rate. I'll try to help since I've run a couple Gravity teams before, although it would help if you expanded upon your descriptions--understanding the reasoning and strategy behind each poke makes it a lot easier for raters to assist you.

Let's start with your lead; Forretress is no good on a team like this. For one, it takes 4 turns to set up Spike and SR to full, and you're really not gonna have time to do so--plus, I've found it in my experience to not be really as effective in doubles. Your lead is also highly vulnerable to Taunt and enemies will set up easily on you.

So what can you do? Well, first off I would suggest replacing Forretress with a good Fake Out user or fast Taunter that can abuse Gravity. Ambipom could possibly work if you can get one with Dynamic Punch and Mega Kick from Emerald, but Fake Out is illegal with those moves IIRC, not to mention he would move before Dusknoir meaning his leading moves would be inaccurate. I've used Kangaskhan well before but I don't know how well it'd work for your team. There's also the choice of running a Follow Me Togekiss which would pretty much ensure Dusknoir gets set up but at the same time doesn't allow you to stop your enemy.

Regigigas blows, Slow Start is such a terrible hindrance (and, IIRC, if you use Worry Seed on it you don't get the stats back or something). Something like Rhyperior would go way better here, provide you with an Explosion resist (I know you have Magnezone but I'm getting to that), and abuse the hell out of STAB EQ, but be warned, it'll hurt your team a lot if you aren't prepared!

With Regigigas gone, Smeargle can go too. Now, one of the huge things about this team is that nothing resist EQ at all, which is quite troubling. For that, I think you could easily replace Smeargle with a Grass or Bug type, and I think Shaymin would work wonderfully hear since you don't have a big Fire, Bug, or Ice weak nor do you really have any special power behind this team. It's fast and benefits greatly from Gravity with Seed Flare and Earth Power. Grasswhistle, as well, would have about 91 acc under Gravity and would be quite helpful since you've no status moves. I suggest a set of Seed Flare/Earth Power/Air Slash/Grasswhistle. If you're worried about status, you can always use Aromatherapy in the last slot, especially since Blissey can't run it with Gravity, but at the moment I don't recommend it.

I honestly don't see the point in using Magnezone at all; he slows down your team and gets murdered by EQ. He also adds to that fighting weak you seem to be so afraid of. I'd replace him honestly, but with what I don't know at the moment. There's always stuff like Yanmega and Salamence and whatnot, but at the moment I haven't any clue.

Blissey seems fine, although I don't know why you are running that EV spread--it seems like the WishBliss EVs would make more sense, but whatever. I will say, though, that Lum Berry is not the way to go, use Lefties instead, oh, and change Charge Beam to Thunder for annoying Parahax. Remember that there's always Clefable to run a Gravity set but I think you're fine here.

And...I gotta go.
 
How about a follow-me clafable? She can learn gravity and allows me to have a free slot in my party for Azelf (Ampibom just doesnt cut it)

Worry Seed does get rid of the hindrance from slow start except for speed but speed comes back to normal after the first turn with SS gone. But I think I should get rid of them anyway, so I'll use DUsknoir there instead of SHaymin and add Rhyperior. Is Explosion really something to worry about? If so I could use a Poliwrath it has Dynamicpunch and Damp.

I agree with you magnezone just doesn’t belong (rhy recommended it to me). Should I replace Magnezone with Poliwrath?

I changed Blissey a little. What EVs do you recommend? This will be my Blissey until I can find someone with a Wish Blissey that has a calm nature.

Edits are in bold.

You clearly know A LOT more about gravity and double battles then I do, so thank you for the advice and I hope you give me more :D

EDIT: I have completely abused leftovers lol
 
Is Sleep Clause in effect? If you want to keep Smeargle then its a good idea to give it Dark Void. It gets 100% accuracy during Gravity. Replace Worry Seed if Regigigas is leaving your team. I agree with Starman. Magnezone is just dead weight. Earthquake is likely to be very common in doubles because it can hit everyone in battle.
 
Is Sleep Clause in effect? If you want to keep Smeargle then its a good idea to give it Dark Void. It gets 100% accuracy during Gravity. Replace Worry Seed if Regigigas is leaving your team. I agree with Starman. Magnezone is just dead weight. Earthquake is likely to be very common in doubles because it can hit everyone in battle.
Unfortunatly the sleep clause will be in effect because I want to play standard :(
 
I don't have time for a full rate, but why are you running Ice Beam instead of Blizzard on your Golduck. Also, in the RMT, you put it's name as Rhyperior.

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Rhyperior @ Life Orb
Cloud Nine
Mild 104 Atk / 252 SpA / 152 Spe
-Hydro Pump
-Ice Beam
-Dynamicpunch
-Hypnosis
Golduck is manly here to get rid of weather effects like sunny day and rain dance.
 
I don't have time for a full rate, but why are you running Ice Beam instead of Blizzard on your Golduck. Also, in the RMT, you put it's name as Rhyperior.

muna ty, I was in a hurry and forgot to reread in case of errors.

@ Intro Darkvoid make both pokemon go to sleep so it does break sleep clause
 
this is a pretty nice doubles team and you might want to go rock polish or sub on that rhyperior

I hope ur right, that this is a nice team. ok now for rhyperior, should i just replace him w/ mamswine? He knows reflect higher speed, but less attack or just give rhyperior rockpolish?

And is Golduck ok? Cause he classified as NU.
 
If Clefable plans to take Earthquake for the team and use a Bold nature, its EVs should be 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SDef. Don't use Cosmic Power; you won't have time in Doubles, especially when you need to use Gravity and Follow Me. I would have Thunderwave, especially when considering how slow your team is.

Does Rhyperior has Rock Polish or Swords Dance? Anyways, it's too slow to attempt either in Doubles. If you want to use Mamo instead, don't use Reflect. It doesn't have time for it, it rather sweep. Gravity only lasts 5 turns. Use the MixMamo set, because Blizzard will have 100% accuracy in Gravity.

Dusknoir should have Protect in place of Shadow Sneak. Protect will provide protection from Mamoswine's Earthquake. Mamoswine has much more Atk to utilize a priority move.

I would use Starmie in place of Golduck. Golduck is used primarily to remove weather, but Sandstorm and Hail don't hurt this team badly. (And Mamoswine is greatly benefited by Hail). Aerodactyl has Taunt to prevent your opponent from setting up Rain Dance or Sunny Day, unless they are used by Scarfers (lol), Electrode, or possibly base 130 pokemon. Clefable's Follow Me will stop moves like Dark Void aimed at Aerodactly.
Starmie has better SpA and Speed, as well as Thunder and Recover in place of Dynamic Punch and Hypnosis. Blissey already provides sleep support (remember the sleep clause), and Dusknoir already provides Confusion support.
 
Should Dusknior have TR?
Clafable Softoboiled or protect?

Ty ill make changes

caelum edit: locked at user request so he could make another RMT.
 
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