Nuke, Hax, Sweep, Lol, Repeat. (MyFirst Shoddy Team)

The Paradoxical Entity

Hello all. Ive just started this a few days ago, and i feel I've finally made a team worth posting. Rate it and fix it, and feel free to teach me things im not supposed to know :P

This team basically is meant to counter all opposition and do it with style.
Because of this, my team may only have 1 Legendary in it at a time, must have at least 1 Non-Uber and Non-OU in it at all times, and must be aggro.

The Lead

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Bronzong @ Macho Brace
Ability: Heatproof
EVs: 252 HP/ 84 ATK / 92 SpD
IVs: 31 for all of them except Speed: 0
Sassy nature (+SpD, -Speed)
- Explosion
- Earthquake
- Trick
- Gyro Ball

I really don't know what constitutes as a good lead, but this guy seems to do the job nicely.

Basically, first I attack with everything I got until my health begins to get low. At that point I use Explosion or Trick, depending on which I believe will hinder him more. Explosion is usually a guarteed kill unless the opponent has a resistance, but even then it will bring him low enough for me to kill him with my priority attack Scizor during the next move.

After Bronzong is finished with his job, I usually decide between Scizor and Togekiss. Scizor is there to finish off my opponent's exploded Pokemon; Togekiss to terrorize whatever else.

I mess around a bit with Bronzong's ability. Almost always, the opponent will never use Ground moves on a Bronzor, as he will assume it has Levitate. The only other Supereffective option is Fire. So with Heatproof, I trick my opponent into letting my Bronzong have virtually no weaknesses.
This is a risky move (almost as risky as me posting this risky move here), but I have yet to suffer for giving my Bronzong Heatproof.

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Azelf @ Exert Belt
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP/252 Speed/252 SpA
Timid nature (+Speed, -Atk)
- Grass Knot
- Flamethrower
- Nasty Plot
- Psychic

Azelf is virtually unstoppable after I use my first nasty plot, OHKOing with any move the opponent can't resist, even if he does have his little "Light Barrier" active. She'll take at least 2 pokemon with her, unless I send her out at the wrong time. Her undoing seems to be her speed.

*note: better item plz?
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Gyarados @ Muscle Band
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 ATK/4 DEF/252 Speed
Adamant nature (+Attack, - Sp. Attack)
- Dragon Dance
- Waterfall (Aqua Tail?)
- Ice Fang
- Stone Edge

Another powerful friend of mine, he is idolized by Pelipper. His attacks cover the opponent pretty well, and when they dont I just use my STAB Waterfall.

Considering switching it for Aqua Tail. Aqua Tail has more power, and the sacrifice of 10 accuracy seems moot.

Dragon Dance increases my two most important stats at the same time. Use it when opponent switches out in fear of the mighty power of the atrocious Gyarados.

*note: better item plz?

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Togekiss (M) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP/252 Speed/4 SpA
Timid nature (+Speed, -Atk)
- Air Slash
- Aura Sphere
- Flamethrower
- Trick

Togekiss is a fun little pokemon with Serene Grace. That means it HAXES.

Serene Grace means Airslash often forces the opponent to flinch, and Flamethrower burns more often.

I focus on speed to optimize the effect of Airslash. If I find myself against an opponent who I wouldn't be able to beat with the limitations of Choice Scarf, I just give it to him, so he can figure out what to do with it, namely switch out.

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Scizor (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Technician
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Speed/
Adamand nature (+Atk, -SpAtk)
- Bullet Punch
- Brick Break
- X-Scissor
- Swords Dance

I <3 the coolest and best (and only good) bug-type.

Swords Dance makes his bullet punchyness nearly unstoppable,
Brick Breaker is good type coverage (since his steel punch will probably only be stopped by another steel) and it breaks walls. Isn't that grand?
Bullet Punch is boosted by Technician and STAB and made lethal.
X-Scissor has STAB, too.

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Gallade (M) @ Choice Scarf (Choice Band if Item Clause)
Ability: Steadfast
EVs: 252 Atk/4 HP/252 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Close Combat
- Psycho Cut (serial killery, eh?)
- Ice Punch
- Night Slash

I think you call this a revenge killer.
The reason I run this revenge killer, however, is mainly b/c of my attachment to Gardnevoir when I was in Hoenn, and a new evolution seemed even cooler (though I hate Gallade's potbelly).

He fits well in here. Nice Type coverages, few weaknesses, cool persona, etc.
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So tahts my team. It runs pretty well.

Issues: Double Weaknesses (two pokemon with same weakness) to Electricity & Ghosts [though not a big problem; just don't switch to that pokemon], item usefulness, whatever you see I don't, etc.

Ratings?
 
Just a glance:
With your Gyarados, definitely go with Life Orb on the offensive set, never go with aqua tail, the damage difference is negligible and is most certainly worth the decrease in accuracy. And just a nitpick, Gyarados doesn't learn swords dance.

And if you are going to have Bronzong as a lead, you'll probably want to give it stealth rock, as it is a very handy move that'll help your sweepers out.
 
If you're going to give Bronzong Heatproof, also give it Iron Ball. Iron Ball will increase Gyro Ball's damage, while Macho Brace wouldn't. Sorry that I don't have time for a good rate right now.

BTW, good job for a newbie. Your team looks decent, and you have actual descriptions. And of course, welcome to Smogon!
 
the item on azelf is good, life orb is not. i tried it before. u cant afford the health loss. i recommend modest nature togekiss. since scarfed already.
and scizor 252 atk and spe in order to outrun defensive pokes. i think u meant 6 spe but 252 spe is better.
 
"I <3 the coolest and best (and only good) bug-type."

I think it's easy for me to start with something Lex Luthor might say... WRONG!

Heracross and Yanmega both deserve better, Scizor for that matter has so many surefire counters, but Yanmega and Heracross do not! Don't believe me? I'll show ya!

Counters to Yanmega: "Blissey is the biggest one, followed by Snorlax and Regice. The last two often carry Sleep Talk, so Hypnosis isn't a problem. All three of these can handle any Yanmega set barring the incredibly rare Reversal set." Notice the exception; with Reversal, Yanmega can swiftly KO both Blissey and Snorlax at 1 HP (200 Base Power Reversal). Steel types wall any Yanmega without HP Ground. EXCEPTION!

Counters to Heracross: "Gliscor is the best counter around." "However, Gliscor needs Aerial Ace to be able to beat most of the Swords Dance variants."

Scizor on the other hand has no chance to beat Pokemon like Zapdos even if he got passed enough speed and +6 from Belly Drum. The Rotom forms give him trouble, Heatran usually outpaces him, Magnezone pulls him in to the electirizer. Scizor doesn't have the capacity to beat it's counters, unlike the two listed above.

Your EVs are rather confusing, Tricking a Macho Brace really doesn't do a whole lot in the long run. I have past experience at knowing this.

loedoc: "If you're going to give Bronzong Heatproof, also give it Iron Ball. Iron Ball will increase Gyro Ball's damage, while Macho Brace wouldn't."

Iron Ball does not lower speed, Macho Brace does. Iron Ball simply makes you move last, as well as being heavy (making Grass Knot do more).

Your team has no good switch in for Heatran (except Gyarados, who is using LO and Offensive, meaning taking the hit isn't good). Switch Bronzong for Azelf as Azelf looks like an Anti-lead to me. You have no Pokemon to handle Dragon Dance Salamence, as he outspeeds Gallade and Togekiss after a Dragon Dance. You have no Rapid Spinner to get rid of Stealth Rock so Togekiss and Gyarados can come in easier. I suggest checking out your weakness chart on Marriland.com or something, and then revamping your team with some more suggestions
 
DarkCyberElf said:
"I <3 the coolest and best (and only good) bug-type."

I think it's easy for me to start with something Lex Luthor might say... WRONG!

Heracross and Yanmega both deserve better, Scizor for that matter has so many surefire counters, but Yanmega and Heracross do not! Don't believe me? I'll show ya!

Counters to Yanmega: "Blissey is the biggest one, followed by Snorlax and Regice. The last two often carry Sleep Talk, so Hypnosis isn't a problem. All three of these can handle any Yanmega set barring the incredibly rare Reversal set." Notice the exception; with Reversal, Yanmega can swiftly KO both Blissey and Snorlax at 1 HP (200 Base Power Reversal). Steel types wall any Yanmega without HP Ground. EXCEPTION!

Counters to Heracross: "Gliscor is the best counter around." "However, Gliscor needs Aerial Ace to be able to beat most of the Swords Dance variants."

Scizor on the other hand has no chance to beat Pokemon like Zapdos even if he got passed enough speed and +6 from Belly Drum. The Rotom forms give him trouble, Heatran usually outpaces him, Magnezone pulls him in to the electirizer. Scizor doesn't have the capacity to beat it's counters, unlike the two listed above.

Your EVs are rather confusing, Tricking a Macho Brace really doesn't do a whole lot in the long run. I have past experience at knowing this.

loedoc: "If you're going to give Bronzong Heatproof, also give it Iron Ball. Iron Ball will increase Gyro Ball's damage, while Macho Brace wouldn't."

Iron Ball does not lower speed, Macho Brace does. Iron Ball simply makes you move last, as well as being heavy (making Grass Knot do more).

Your team has no good switch in for Heatran (except Gyarados, who is using LO and Offensive, meaning taking the hit isn't good). Switch Bronzong for Azelf as Azelf looks like an Anti-lead to me. You have no Pokemon to handle Dragon Dance Salamence, as he outspeeds Gallade and Togekiss after a Dragon Dance. You have no Rapid Spinner to get rid of Stealth Rock so Togekiss and Gyarados can come in easier. I suggest checking out your weakness chart on Marriland.com or something, and then revamping your team with some more suggestions
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The holder's Speed is reduced by 50%. If the holder is a Flying-type Pokémon or has the ability Levitate, it is affected by Ground-type attacks, Spikes, and Toxic Spikes as if it did not have that type or ability.

Copied from Smogon, I highly doubt their wrong.

Don't just tell him to use random bug-types. Yanmega has a counter, the very bug you shunned. I doubt Yanmega can survive a Bullet Punch at 25% damage. If it's higher, no way it'll beat Blissey or Snorlax. SD Heracross beats Gliscor, but loses to anything faster. Every pokemon has a counter to each specific set. Good luck find anything that can counter every Lucario set.

How is Scizor not useful? Powerful priority, excellent scouting abilities, and fantastic typing makes Scizor a solid choice for any team. Every pokemon has a counter, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't use it. Is Kyogre bad because Quagsire counters it? Uber tier usage statistics says no. Learn some more pokemon knowledge before you every pokemon that has a counter bad.
 
Bronzong's speed is cut by macho brace and it looks like i got the EVs wrong.

Bronzong has 0 speed IV and 0 Speed EVs. I'll fix that ASAP.

I try not to have many pokemon with same item due to item clause. Also, I dont like Life Orb Azelf. She kills herself that way.

marriland.com...interesting. I'll edit my team afterwards. Thx for help. Any other sites i should know of? (mostly all I use is smogon and bulbapedia)
 
Team Edited!

I fixed the EVs.

Bronzong is currently the task at hand:

1. Should it be my lead?

2. Should its non-attack move be Trick, Stealth Rock, or Lightscreen/Reflect?

*If I decide to keep Trick, Bronzong will now hold Iron Ball. This is so that my opponent will be affected by Earthquake, one of Bronzong's moves. My goal is to hurt the opponent as much as possible before I use explosion.

*Stealth Rock seems like a good idea. If I add it, I keep Macho Brace for Gyro Ball power up. The damage it deals will be about 6% against most pokemon, and it will cause the opponent to switch out less often.

*Lightscreen/Reflect will protect my party and even more so my bronzong, so that he'll live even longer to harass my opponent.

They are all good ideas, but which is THE BEST idea?
 
I would say that stealth rock is the best. It takes away health from anything that switches in, and really punishes those that attempt to "switch-stall" you. But that's just my opinion.
 
I don't get why you didn't invest more SpA evs into Togekiss, or give it a modest nature. And...what's up with Bronzong holding a macho brace?

I'd keep waterfall on gyarados, because after a dragon dance, he'll be able to outrun alot of OU pokes and take advantage of the possible flinch.

Other than that, it looks fine.
 
Thinking about moving Togekiss to front. Ive tested it and it works better than bronzong did. (bronzong is better at switching in to a fast sweeper)

Yes, Stealth Rock seems best, even if Bronzong isnt my lead. Trick is overally useless if I plan to explode.

Also, ive been testing Absol in place of Gallade, and usually get the same results, if not better.

Here's its moveset:

Super Luck // Holding Scope Lens // Jolly Nature // 4 HP // 252 ATK // 252 Speed

Moves:
Swords Dance
Sucker Punch (very good priority move)
Psycho Cut or Night Slash (Super Luck Abuse)
Superpower

Which is better?
 
The Paradoxical Entity said:
Thinking about moving Togekiss to front. Ive tested it and it works better than bronzong did. (bronzong is better at switching in to a fast sweeper)

Yes, Stealth Rock seems best, even if Bronzong isnt my lead. Trick is overally useless if I plan to explode.

Also, ive been testing Absol in place of Gallade, and usually get the same results, if not better.

Here's its moveset:

Super Luck // Holding Scope Lens // Jolly Nature // 4 HP // 252 ATK // 252 Speed

Moves:
Swords Dance
Sucker Punch (very good priority move)
Psycho Cut or Night Slash (Super Luck Abuse)
Superpower

Which is better?
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Well, Gallade will probably be able to 1HKO Tyranitar, Salamence, and Flygon, but Absol will destroy Gengar, Alakazam, Azelf (With SR), Starmie, Tyranitar, and a LOT of others. It really depends on what you consider a bigger threat.
 
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