Pokemon Black & White, aka Gen 5. Coming to Japan in Fall 2010.

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Well, depending on how you would like to interpret it, Arcues is just a "creator", and merely one Arcues that was born from an egg had created everything. Although we would interpret him as "God" that wouldn't necessarily make him the presider over things like Heaven. We may still get our "God" within the next generation since we need someone to oppose Giritina.
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Palkia and Dialga already oppose him. Considering Giratina and the distortion world was created from inspiration of Anti-Matter (as they admitted in an interview, according to Bulbapedia), the real world is technically the opposite of Giratina.

Notice the black stuff that is just jutting out of the ground.
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Well, on the right side of the screen is obviously a ledge (meaning those are being used, just like the other games). I see a dark patch in the bottom right, but it looks like dirt, just darker. On the very very right, it looks like stairs past the ledge. Maybe a ramp/slope that the bike can go up.

Or do you mean the boulders?
 
Give Eevee an item that causes friendship to either make it a light type, or a ghost type. Tada! Light Eevee dilemma solved! Espeon is not disowned/screwed up, and we don't need make up a new evolution stone just because sunstone is taken.

Why Gamefreak? Why no Light type?
 
They never made a light type because there is no need to. Dark was only made to stop Mewtwo with Flamethrower from continuously rampaging Pokemon, and as such, probably wouldn't have need to be made if Mewtwo wasn't so uber/Zam so powerful/Lugia so bulky.
 
Rein said:
Maybe, but keep in mind, that's Porygon. He was made to show how technology changes over time. Since he isn't alive, up-grading his programming with new software is....well...the only way to change him at all. Lol. I can imagine Porygon getting a virus, or his sound card/battery going bad or needing to be replaced. Hacking a Porygon to learn moves like Blast Burn or something like that would probably be possible in reality. lol
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Isn't Porygon-Z a Porygon2 that's glitched? I think its Pokedex entry says so and that's close to getting a virus. Though, getting an actual virus could make it more severe n a pretty intense, crazy Pokemon! =]
 
I think it would be cool to see an outdated/rundown version of Porygon rather than repeatedly getting failed attempts at exploration and advancement.
 
Isn't Porygon-Z a Porygon2 that's glitched? I think its Pokedex entry says so and that's close to getting a virus. Though, getting an actual virus could make it more severe n a pretty intense, crazy Pokemon! =]
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lol. He just has glitches because the Dubious Disc is supposedly illegally made hardware, and as such, isn't perfect.

Porygon-Zs only real glitches are that:
a) It has developed emotions, and being non-living, doesn't understand how they work or when to express them properly.

b)It will occasionally freeze up and lag (lol) when it processes information. If you use him on PBR, you will see him stop 2 or 3 times when preparing for an attack.

I think it would be cool to see an outdated/rundown version of Porygon rather than repeatedly getting failed attempts at exploration and advancement.
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That would be awesome.

Maybe you break into a lab and find all sorts of old hardware, notes, and programming from when Porygon was being developed (like with Rotom). The you check the computer/find a pen drive with an odd program. Porygon will pester you to download it, and thus, Porygon will evolve back to it' prototype sate when it installs the program.

This would fit in with the past theme mentioned earlier, with the legendary birds being chicks and Oak/Agetha being the protagonists.
 
Proboscidea said:
Isn't Porygon-Z a Porygon2 that's glitched? I think its Pokedex entry says so and that's close to getting a virus. Though, getting an actual virus could make it more severe n a pretty intense, crazy Pokemon! =]
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i think it was because they tried to make it do too much and it became melcious.
 
Now that you mention it, the boulders do look like they're given a little more attention then they normally would be. Notice the white lines surrounding them, and how they glow. Could this be some sort of magical or supernatural force? Something else entirely? If so, and it's because of the story line, then I doubt there is an HM to get rid of it. It would most likely disappear after you reach a certain point into the story. Of coarse, it could just be natural to this specific cave. We have no clue what this new region has in store for us, so anything can possibly be indigenous to the environment. If so, I can't wait to see what other types of mysterious and awe-inspiring sights there are in store for us for other parts of the game. It very well could be stunning. Hopefully.
 
Rein said:
lol. He just has glitches because the Dubious Disc is supposedly illegally made hardware, and as such, isn't perfect.

Porygon-Zs only real glitches are that:
a) It has developed emotions, and being non-living, doesn't understand how they work or when to express them properly.

b)It will occasionally freeze up and lag (lol. Just..lol) when it processes information. If you use him on PBR, you will see him stop 2 or 3 times when preparing for an attack.

Maybe you break into a lab and find all sorts of old hardware, notes, and programming from when Porygon was being developed (like with Rotom). The you check the computer/find a pen drive with an odd program. Porygon will pester you to download it, and thus, Porygon will evolve back to it' prototype sate.

This would fit in with the past theme mentioned earlier, with the legendary birds being chicks and Oak/Agetha being the protagonists.
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With the last part of your post, those screenshots weren't real though iirc.

I was thinking more of a Prototype that failed. Not failed like, they weren't able to explore/travel through dimensions properly, but failed completely. Maybe it could be a more nuetral Porygon form. A mix between Z and 2, giving you a reasonable amount of bulk and special attack, and an ability that does not really help it in anyway. Probably would end up being some new ability (if it were real) revolving around it's glitchyness.

Or maybe (heh) with all of Silph's failures in exploration they could try to make a Porygon that would fit in an urban community or as a normal Pokemon. It would ofcourse, inevitably fail, and the reason could be that Porygon ended up being far too violent and unstable (lack of programmed emotions, or the emotion programming glitched) to be safe for use by a human. The data was abandoned and locked away and ended up being broken/glitched/missing certain components when you find it, resulting in an incomplete Porygon or an extremely rusted out/broken version of the violent Porygon form. Idk this is kinda cool and would be fun to work with, especially since a Physically-based Porygon might be fun to play with.
 
Notice the white lines surrounding them, and how they glow. Could this be some sort of magical or supernatural force? Something else entirely? If so, and it's because of the story line, then I doubt there is an HM to get rid of it. It would most likely disappear after you reach a certain point into the story. Of coarse, it could just be natural to this specific cave. We have no clue what this new region has in store for us, so anything can possibly be indigenous to the environment.
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You mean like the mossy/Icy rock? I don't think it's any more than scenery, personally, used to make the cave seem strange, enigmatic, and big.

@HHJJ,
Didn't you just post that on the last page/page before? As I said, Porygon is a bad example because it's computer Programming. And as such, can't advance or grow unless you install new programs.


Idk this is kinda cool and would be fun to work with, especially since a Physically-based Porygon might be fun to play with
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Excactly what I meant. Except...I imagine completely missing it's skin where you can see all the hardware/software making him up instead of rusted (keep in mind, he is computer programming, not a robot. And he apparently can't survive outside of Cyberspace.......)

Or maybe (heh) with all of Silph's failures in exploration they could try to make a Porygon that would fit in an urban community or as a normal Pokemon. It would ofcourse, inevitably fail, and the reason could be that Porygon ended up being far too violent and unstable (lack of programmed emotions, or the emotion programming glitched) to be safe for use by a human
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Tried to make a porygon that was meant for the wild. Went terribly wrong. Only Porygon-Z has emotions, and it's not supposed to (the fact that it does is the reason it's a "failure"). The only reason Porygon was invented was to see if a Pokemon can be created. Porygon 2 was because Silph had an ingenious idea of sending him into space. And apparently team rocket/galactic created the Dubious Disc to give Porygon the ability to travel between dimensions.....Distortion World Porygon!

And I know the past-thing was a fake, I'm saying, if they did do something like that, it would fit in well.
 
hhjj, 20% bonuses for nature would be a tad too extreme. Essentially, no attacking pokemon could ever afford to run a neutral speed nature, as pokemon ~20 base points below it would outrun them.

Edit: I really don't want the card games influencing my RPG. It's bad enough that the typing is screwed up and people think that Psychic is weak to itself or something.

Personally, I would like to see another defensive item other than leftovers. Perhaps something that blocks added effects (Hello Iron Head jirachi). Also would like to see something that reduces damage from all physical attacks 20%, another for special attacks 20%, and a third for reducing all damage 10%. Numbers might change. Maybe 15% for the focused ones would be more balanced. Either way, this would give pokemon with good recovery moves an alternative to lefties, and shift the game away from offense. More reliable phazing would probably be a necessity as a result.
 
Perhaps something that blocks added effects (Hello Iron Head jirachi).
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They did. I think it's Shield Dust. Not sure.

Life Orb that increases speed. Item that halves attack, but increases defense or halve special attack, increases sp defense.. Those would be nice.

I looked it up. It's Sheild Dust. Stops all side effects. Here is who gets it:

Caterpie
Weedle
Wurmple
Dustox
Venomoth
 
Rein said:
You mean like the mossy/Icy rock? I don't think it's any more than scenery, personally, used to make the cave seem strange, enigmatic, and big.

@HHJJ,
Didn't you just post that on the last page/page before? As I said, Porygon is a bad example because it's computer Programming. And as such, can't advance or grow unless you install new programs.


Excactly what I meant. Except...I imagine completely missing it's skin where you can see all the hardware/software making him up instead of rusted (keep in mind, he is computer programming, not a robot. And he apparently can't survive outside of Cyberspace.......)



Tried to make a porygon that was meant for the wild. Went terribly wrong. Only Porygon-Z has emotions, and it's not supposed to (the fact that it does is the reason it's a "failure").

And I know the past-thing was a fake, I'm saying, if they did do something like that, it would fit in well.
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If you look at the Pokedex entries, Porygon2 was a failure because it was meant for space exploration but could not fly. Porygon-Z was a failure because the programming installed that was supposed to allow him to go through alien dimensions worked, but something went wrong (more than likely his erratic behavior). Porygon2 and Porygon-Z are both capable of displaying emotions (although, it just claims Z has an error in his programming) looking at their pokedex entries.

A meant-to-be wild Porygon might be better, seeing as an extremely violent and unsafe Pokemon meant to measure up as something friendly and catchable would be that kind of "this is exactly how it wasn't supposed to turn out" thing they have going on with Porygon.

And an exo-skeleton for Porygon might be cool.
 
And an exo-skeleton for Porygon might be cool.
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I might go and make a sprite for that. The way I am imaganing it looks pretty sweet, and be up in coolness factor w/ Farfetch'd if it was released.

I was also thinking they sent a Porygon into the distortion world for exploration, or maybe even galactic comes back with the tech to find Cyrus, and it's programming becomes completely eradicated from all of the time and space distortions. It comes back incredibly violent with a plethora of malfunctions and dangerous adaptations (it's skin becomes misshaped to adapt to the irregular gravity, it's documentary and processing functions are all jacked up from time passing at an unnatural rate) and escapes, and becomes a major threat that you must hunt down.
 
I don't think any fakemon should interfere with any official plot line related stuff. I think Porygon-Z was solely meant for exploration of alien worlds (as explained in the entries), especially when you consider no one knew about Giritina or the distortion world, due to him being "the forgotten one". I think it would make more sense for the programming to have been added to be more efficient than Z, and it being the result of Porygon traveling through any dimension and coming back.

And I hope they look at mother3 when making this game. I'm really tired of seeing really actiony cut scenes only to have them be played out by a character's 4 direction walking sprites.
 
And I hope they look at mother3 when making this game. I'm really tired of seeing really actiony cut scenes only to have them be played out by a character's 4 direction walking sprites.
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lol. If you could move freely in the distortion world, that would be fun....
 
Cshadow said:
Probably would end up being some new ability (if it were real) revolving around it's glitchyness.
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Name: Hax Fest
Description: Both you and your opponent always get critical hits. In doubles, it works similarly to No Guard.

It would basically be a new Medicham that can't switch in, which, I admit, would probably make it either broken or useless.
 
well, no one would be alive here if lucario dindt had sacrificed himself to save the giant tree of life or whatever is called so IMO he is jesus.

lame jokes aside i think this:no fusions, 4 evos please, pokes with 3 types, gimme something good.
 
I had an idea once that could make the storyline a bit more interesting, as opposed to merely being "Oh Team *Evil Thing* wants to take over the world" as a sideplot to your conquering of the gyms.

Essentially the new area is undergoing a series of industrialization and urbanization, with large cities and factories overtaking the forests and nature. Depending on the version you choose, you will either start in the forest/unindustrialized zone or the industrialized zone. The first gym for one version will be the last for the other, and other important things plot-wise will also be inverted between the versions.

The plot will ultimately involve something like what we see in RSE, with a group of extremists trying to either destroy or promote industrialization, with the player having to stop them by capturing the legendary responsible. (I had this idea after watching Princess Mononoke, which, incidentally, has a deity that reminds me of Arceus)

Of course, a legendary dedicated to industrialization would be a bit awkward, so it could hearken back to Silph Co's experiments in genetics, whereby the information gained by experimenting on Mewtwo is used to create a powerful pokemon resembling the artificial.

While Black/White may not necessarily be the last Pokemon, it would be pretty awesome if it sort of combines the lore of the other generations and wrap everything up into a nice little story. How they can involve Silph Co and Mewtwo's experiment, as I mentioned above, is just one example of how GF can give something the fans have wanted for a long time. (That is, a slightly more convoluted plot.)
 
@above poster: You had me until the last paragraph. I don't really like that.



I know y'all were talking about how they can change to way to battle(something similar to physical/special split). Well I got something and I think it's something that no one wants to hear, but I'm going to say it anyway. Making evasion a stat *shot*
 
Things that I could possibly see happening. They add several different typed stealth rock-like moves. Only one could be up at a time of course, but I feel it would allow for some of the Pokemon that take 50% from stealth would be playable again because the person might have decided to go with the ice-type or fire-type "rocks". These moves would still retain their usefulness, but with a variety of types the meta-game might not be as centralized.

While the fusion idea brought up before was awful, I could see that when you breed certain species together they might produce an offspring that is neither the mother nor the father. I guess it could be similar to how donkeys and horses can breed to produce mules. This way, we don't have the gamebreaking but it provides new Pokemon.
 
Rein said:
They did. I think it's Shield Dust. Not sure.

Life Orb that increases speed. Item that halves attack, but increases defense or halve special attack, increases sp defense.. Those would be nice.

I looked it up. It's Sheild Dust. Stops all side effects. Here is who gets it:

Caterpie
Weedle
Wurmple
Dustox
Venomoth
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Good for you, venomoth :) (Too bad tinted lens RAPES shield dust on venomoth).
 
What there needs to be is Focus Sash v2.0.

The way it SHOULD work is that it actually fails if you are 1HKOed at FULL HEALTH, but it leaves you with 1HP if you weren't at full health and hit by a lethal attack. What this will do is not only discourage stealth rock to some extent, it will reward switching in on resistances.
 
A2ZOMG said:
What there needs to be is Focus Sash v2.0.

The way it SHOULD work is that it actually fails if you are 1HKOed at FULL HEALTH, but it leaves you with 1HP if you weren't at full health and hit by a lethal attack. What this will do is not only discourage stealth rock to some extent, it will reward switching in on resistances.
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Sounds like a good idea. What happens if you switch in and get knocked down to 1 HP when you switch in? You die or live??

I think they should make an ability that taunts the opponents so they can only attack. Maybe this ability could be called "Taunt".
 
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