It's not 2, it's 3 levels for cotton guard. :DIts biggest gain this generation that I can see is Rage Powder. It also gained Cotton Guard, which raises its Defense 3 levels, helping it make better use of Rage Powder.
It's not 2, it's 3 levels for cotton guard. :DIts biggest gain this generation that I can see is Rage Powder. It also gained Cotton Guard, which raises its Defense 3 levels, helping it make better use of Rage Powder.
It's that nobody really disputes that Erufuun is the superior pokemon in the anti-lead and annoyer roles. If Eru had Sleep Powder, Pluff may as well cease to exist.Why would you compare him to Erufuun when Jumpluff is definitely not in the same tier? Also, Aerial Ace and HP Flying aren't doing you that much with 55 Attacking stats.
Erufuun's Mostly going to invest in his Defense, and maybe his Sp.Def if one isn't concerned about outspeeding other Erufuun (doesn't seem that important to me) Speaking of which, why are you talking about Erufuun battling a Jumpluff in the first place?It's that nobody really disputes that Erufuun is the superior pokemon in the anti-lead and annoyer roles. If Eru had Sleep Powder, Pluff may as well cease to exist.
Base 55 stats are pathetic, but so are Erufuun's defenses. And a fast Erufuun (one that's trying to outrun other Erufuun), or one that's boosted the wrong defense, takes even more damage. Pluff can hurt a frail thing like Erufuun (60/85/75).
And then, a lot of the other pokemon its aiming for are pretty frail as well.
- Infernape (76/71/71/Flying weak)
- Blaziken (80/70/80/Flying weak)
- Gengar (60/60/75 (speed tie))
Pluff may not be capable of doing vast damage to these, but also lends injury to Zoroark/(darkdragon)/Tar/Celebi/Latios while U-Turning out if Jolly. And there's always the Sleep Powder option instead.
That's what I've been trying to say.The only hope for Jumpluff is for Erufuun to be OU, in which case it doesn't matter if it outclasses Jumpluff. It'd be like if Gen IV had a better Jumpluff in OU, it wouldn't have affected Pluff's use in the lower tiers.
It having Sleep is a pretty cool advantage though, no doubt.
It's because the set I listed is a lead and Erufuun is a well used anti-lead, and Ape being a lead as well makes it a target. This Pluff's not going to try to counter/revenge Ken so Speed Boost isn't an issue unless Protect is used, and it has Sash for a little more protection.Erufuun's Mostly going to invest in his Defense, and maybe his Sp.Def if one isn't concerned about outspeeding other Erufuun (doesn't seem that important to me) Speaking of which, why are you talking about Erufuun battling a Jumpluff in the first place?
Also, with the Things you just listed, Infernape's mainly only going to be a lead, Blaziken outspeeds you after a Speed Boost, and Gengar speed ties you and i'm pretty sure he lives your attacks. Not very helpful at all if you ask me..
Ohhy.. I see.It's because the set I listed is a lead and Erufuun is a well used anti-lead, and Ape being a lead as well makes it a target. This Pluff's not going to try to counter/revenge Ken so Speed Boost isn't an issue unless Protect is used, and it has Sash for a little more protection.
I gave Pluff the option of Timid HP Flying instead of Jolly Aerial Ace to hit S Def.
No, Eruufun doesn't get aromatherepy, which is to bad, a priority cleric would be quite useful.I love Jumpluff, and it'll always have a space on my team :)
But unfortunately, favourites don't tend to work out too well in serious battles... Jumpluff will still have the niche of being the fastest sleeper, but if Eruufun gets leech seed + Substitute (it should do), Jumpluff's lost the title of fastest subseeder
EDIT: I forgot it learns Aromatherapy too, does Eruufun?
Erufuun gets Chlorophyll in DW, and many moves from your list are useless, at least on Jumpluff.list
raise defense + 3 its quite good, actuallyRaises defense +2.
Dream World hasn't been released yet, so that doesn't count. Also, I put EVERY move on that list, not just the best ones.Erufuun gets Chlorophyll in DW, and many moves from your list are useless, at least on Jumpluff.