Heracross used assrape (DP heracross discussion)

Wishpass is hard to rely on, and won't do much good when you're eating Spikes, Stealth Rock, Sandstream and/or Toxic Orb damage without any Leftovers recovery anyway. It's like hosing water out of a leaking boat.
 
Thanks to research by Seph, I think CB/ASCross with Pursuit will be the new hot-ticket pokemon (well, even more hot than previously thought that is). Ghosts and Psychics are really going to be feeling the pain more than usual.

Has anyone run numbers on max attack CBCross Pursuit against a max/min, max/max Kureseria recently?
 
Crypted Wolf said:
On one pokemon Stops Heracross and thats Gligon Hera lols at everything else.
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ATTENTION MEKKAH: you said that you couldn't understand his post, so here's what it should have said.

Crypted Wolf said:
Only one pokemon stops Heracross, and that's Gligon
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("Glion", a reference to the pokemon now known as "Gliscor")
Crypted Wolf said:
Hera[cross] lols at everything else.
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Actually, He isn't correct, as a crobat can also switch in and knock Heracross out, it just has to be careful of rockslid. I mentioned Crobat because it has x4 resistances to both of Heracross's stab moves. Heracross may use "assrape", but crobat has got one hell of a buttplug.

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Dear Pneuma, here you go:
Average damage on max HP, min Def Cresselia
129.27478260869565217391304347826%

Average damage on a max HP, min Def Cresselia when they try to switch
258.54956521739130434782608695652%

Average damage on a max HP, max Def Cresselia (assuming beneficial nature)
95.913548387096774193548387096774%

Average damage on a max HP, max Def Cresselia (assuming beneficial nature) when Cresselia tries to switch
191.82709677419354838709677419355%
 
Yeah, I could have got that myself, but it'd be better if I didn't have to use my brains for it. Thanks for saving me some energy. Now I can point out that it isn't really easy for the eyes if you randomly bold Pokemon names or italicize move names or something. =p

And yes, Pursuit being completely bugged up is interesting. PP won't matter ever in the Heracross world, but being able to, say, Stone Edge Zapdos after killing Gengar with Pursuit is pretty.
 
I don´t know where you got that numbers from...would be accurate if you erase % at the end, anyway...

hera compared to tyranitar:
hera CB 383 pursuit vs NO switch 444/276 = 120-144 dmg (27-32%) <-> ttar CB 403 pursuit = 193-229 dmg (43-51%)
hera CB 383 pursuit vs switch 444/276 = 240-285 dmg (54-64%) <-> ttar CB 403 pursuit/crunch = 382-450 dmg (86-101%)
hera CB 383 pursuit vs NO switch 444/372 = 90-108 dmg (20-24%) <-> ttar CB 403 pursuit = 144-171 dmg (32-38%)
hera CB 383 pursuit vs switch 444/372 = 180-213 dmg (40-47%) <-> ttar CB 403 pursuit/crunch = 279-333 dmg (62-75%)
 
Mekkah said:
And yes, Pursuit being completely bugged up is interesting. PP won't matter ever in the Heracross world, but being able to, say, Stone Edge Zapdos after killing Gengar with Pursuit is pretty.
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Where are you hearing that Pursuit lets you do that?
 
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