NOC Greek Mythology Mafia [GAME OVER: SCUM WIN]

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Hitmonleet said:
You're painting things in a, frankly, absurd light. I'm unpleased because you've done nothing to generate discussion, not because of OMGUS. If that was the case, I'd be obsessed with getting rid of Asek right now. The reason I suspected you was after looking over your posts because of their comment on you (I'd be happy to grab the post number if you want).

Stop making up crappy and arrogant explanations that imply people only get ideas because of you, it's demeaning.
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Fetch that post number if you would. I'd like to know your supposed real reason for voting me. I'm just looking at your response to #257 and you have a point. My reasoning isn't very good. We are however in the RVS stage and I do tend to vote somebody with a small reason over somebody without reason. Your response to this situation as a whole recently is to call my posts meaningless and to OMGUS vote me. This gives me a much larger reason to actually vote for you. As for my "crappy and arrogant explanations that imply people only get ideas because of [me]", I have only said that I have tried to generate discussion and that the specific exchange between the two of us was provoked by my initial read on you. You may dispute the 2nd one and claim you had reasons to suspect me but at this point I don't think I'd really believe you. The flow of events from my POV has been as follows:
  1. I FoS you.
  2. You dispute that FoS and I admittedly fail to respond to the initial reply.
  3. You post again defending yourself. You ask me for a "concrete thought" I have which is just ignoring the fact I FoS'd you in the
  4. We argue.
  5. You OMGUS vote me.
  6. I elevate my FoS to a vote on you due to your handling of the situation that has occurred.
At the time, you were the most suspicious to me. Doesn't mean you were that suspicious, just means that you were more suspicious than the other 11 options. Now you're just flat out suspicious to me. For all I know this is a misunderstanding and you're genuinely trying to read me but you've said it yourself. In your own head you're not very good and you always get caught as scum and it seems to me you're trying your utmost to prevent this from happening again. I respect that.
Hitmonleet said:
WHY THE HECK IS IT YOU ONLY ACTUALLY MAKE THOUGHTS WHEN PEOPLE DIRECTLY SUSPECT YOU
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Ironic given the circumstances.
Texas Cloverleaf said:
I kind of already called out his role name on page 2 lol
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Adonis is mortal. Aphrodite was my guess.
 
CaffeineBoost said:
Fetch that post number if you would. I'd like to know your supposed real reason for voting me. I'm just looking at your response to #257 and you have a point. My reasoning isn't very good. We are however in the RVS stage and I do tend to vote somebody with a small reason over somebody without reason. Your response to this situation as a whole recently is to call my posts meaningless and to OMGUS vote me. This gives me a much larger reason to actually vote for you. As for my "crappy and arrogant explanations that imply people only get ideas because of [me]", I have only said that I have tried to generate discussion and that the specific exchange between the two of us was provoked by my initial read on you. You may dispute the 2nd one and claim you had reasons to suspect me but at this point I don't think I'd really believe you. The flow of events from my POV has been as follows:
  1. I FoS you.
  2. You dispute that FoS and I admittedly fail to respond to the initial reply.
  3. You post again defending yourself. You ask me for a "concrete thought" I have which is just ignoring the fact I FoS'd you in the
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*in the first place. Sorry, forgot to finish that bit.
 
Just to clear up any confusion since this issues been overdone. I gut read that one post as being kind of sketchy. But when I thought on it for a minute longer, I started giving that statement a bit of a town lean. That's pretty much the entirety of it.

At the moment, I'm not really sure how I feel about the hal slot tbh. I guess realizing the whole reason they SR me because they misread my post is....frustratingly NAI but w/e
 
Hitmonleet said:
As said in the rules:

"2a: Flavor is not indicative of alignment. You cannot infer a player's alignment from the flavor they claim, don't try."

You can name their flavor, so can I. That means literally nothing at all.
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lmao. Metal Sonic originally had a Roman god as my flavor before I pointed it out to him
 
Asek said:
yeah ill wait for them to post some content. the opening wasnt fantastic but could just as easily be attributed to uncomfortable new player. people think my openings on mu have been bad and it might be because im jsut not used to the vibe of the place yet. idk how experienced they are in general really, theyve played before obviously and i would have expected them to hit me with a spicy read when i asked them but they had nothing which was thing that concerned me more.

im willing to give them daypass from my activity read thing and let them settle in and generate some content
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CaffeineBoost this is the post that noted your lack of content and got me to go and reread your posts for content. Tbh I had somewhat forgotten about you until then
 
CaffeineBoost said:
Fetch that post number if you would. I'd like to know your supposed real reason for voting me. I'm just looking at your response to #257 and you have a point. My reasoning isn't very good. We are however in the RVS stage and I do tend to vote somebody with a small reason over somebody without reason. Your response to this situation as a whole recently is to call my posts meaningless and to OMGUS vote me. This gives me a much larger reason to actually vote for you. As for my "crappy and arrogant explanations that imply people only get ideas because of [me]", I have only said that I have tried to generate discussion and that the specific exchange between the two of us was provoked by my initial read on you. You may dispute the 2nd one and claim you had reasons to suspect me but at this point I don't think I'd really believe you. The flow of events from my POV has been as follows:
  1. I FoS you.
  2. You dispute that FoS and I admittedly fail to respond to the initial reply.
  3. You post again defending yourself. You ask me for a "concrete thought" I have which is just ignoring the fact I FoS'd you in the first place.
  4. We argue.
  5. You OMGUS vote me.
  6. I elevate my FoS to a vote on you due to your handling of the situation that has occurred.
At the time, you were the most suspicious to me. Doesn't mean you were that suspicious, just means that you were more suspicious than the other 11 options. Now you're just flat out suspicious to me. For all I know this is a misunderstanding and you're genuinely trying to read me but you've said it yourself. In your own head you're not very good and you always get caught as scum and it seems to me you're trying your utmost to prevent this from happening again. I respect that.

Ironic given the circumstances.

Adonis is mortal. Aphrodite was my guess.
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Yay this is the kind of stuff I wanted you to actually start posting. Real stuff that has a meaning and isn't entirely flimsy.

Anyways, to tackle your logic here, I want to cite the fact that you never responded to my statement against your "RVS FoS", which didn't make much sense considering we had already left RVS by that point. It's relevant, because it helps to frame this. Because you never responded to my dispute of your FoS, I saw it as you purposefully ignoring it, thus making it really seem as if you weren't interested in creating discussion, and instead just wanting to point fingers and push people for flimsy reasons. My concrete request was because I wanted a sign that you had actively been trying to develop discussion, and, because of that ignorance 9f my response, invalidated the original FoS vote in my eyes. Thus, things rolled on from there, resulting in the current situation. I still don't like your posts (especially the casual implication near the end of your post on me), and I'm still parking my vote on you until I feel otherwise, but there's a bit of my logic.
 
ngl I've also been pretty passive so far this game so let me list some gut reads thus far

I like CaffeineBoost, I kind of like leet? Or at least I thought blazade's(?) point was good early on.

Asek, idk. There are some sort of towny vibes mixed in but he's also been acting fairly strange regarding pushing me
 
Hitmonleet said:
Yay this is the kind of stuff I wanted you to actually start posting. Real stuff that has a meaning and isn't entirely flimsy.

Anyways, to tackle your logic here, I want to cite the fact that you never responded to my statement against your "RVS FoS", which didn't make much sense considering we had already left RVS by that point. It's relevant, because it helps to frame this. Because you never responded to my dispute of your FoS, I saw it as you purposefully ignoring it, thus making it really seem as if you weren't interested in creating discussion, and instead just wanting to point fingers and push people for flimsy reasons. My concrete request was because I wanted a sign that you had actively been trying to develop discussion, and, because of that ignorance 9f my response, invalidated the original FoS vote in my eyes. Thus, things rolled on from there, resulting in the current situation. I still don't like your posts (especially the casual implication near the end of your post on me), and I'm still parking my vote on you until I feel otherwise, but there's a bit of my logic.
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I could say the same thing about your refusal to accept that the post you responded to were literally the thoughts I had on the game at that point. It's bad that I didn't respond to your response for discussion but there wasn't really much to say, you just repeated what you had previously said so no real discussion was going to happen. After that you actually started to push on me and we could get some discussion going. As a result of this discussion, I have a fairly large scumread on you much like you (seem to) have on me. It's good to understand where you're coming from though.
 
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