NOC Two Mafias Mafia - Won by The Pack

JALMONT said:
If that’s the case, then Realiti is almost surely mafia no?
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IDK, I think I’m still a bit married to the realiti is only scum if IPL is argument because of the 4 scum PRs or 2 thing. 3 where one has a goon just feels out there, and when 2 of the vts who are still knocking about are legitimately scummy and I could see one or both (or tbf neither) of them as scum easily I’m good sticking with this logic.

Like yeah, I think there’s a chance pulsar + goon vs 2 PRs kinda works out and that would be the world where realiti is scum and the other is Psy or fairy but it’s like a third or fourth most likely solve IMO.

Maybe I’m missing why you replied to that post with this though. I don’t think anything I said there really relates to IPL’s alignment for the most part and def not realiti’s
 
JALMONT said:
Why would you try and bait kills claiming PR when you’re a tracker? Is anyone else going with that strategy if you’re a bpv+tracker? No way right? You keep your mouth shut and get as many results as you can and only claiming when you’re about to die
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Ok this is a really good take
 
Optimal strategy is obviously reveal tracker and results when your vest breaks or you’re about to get voted, or maybe claim only tracker if you get a probable red check (especially if someone visits 2 people) because at that point you bait a kill onto you anyway
 
TBF this is the kind of thing I mean when I say we don’t have to harp on the claimed action failures because the behaviour doesn’t fit the role anyway lol
 
Celever said:
IDK, I think I’m still a bit married to the realiti is only scum if IPL is argument because of the 4 scum PRs or 2 thing. 3 where one has a goon just feels out there, and when 2 of the vts who are still knocking about are legitimately scummy and I could see one or both (or tbf neither) of them as scum easily I’m good sticking with this logic.

Like yeah, I think there’s a chance pulsar + goon vs 2 PRs kinda works out and that would be the world where realiti is scum and the other is Psy or fairy but it’s like a third or fourth most likely solve IMO.

Maybe I’m missing why you replied to that post with this though. I don’t think anything I said there really relates to IPL’s alignment for the most part and def not realiti’s
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Just thinking out loud mostly sorry lol. You’re right about believing what he says results wise which I just hate.

2 pr vs 1 pr is not this game. Honestly haven’t really considered two vanilla goon. We have Realiti/ipl crossing, you leaning towards hitting the vanilla group. Psy wants to vote in the PRs, af does too, and neon is a zero. Is it too simplistic to say that if you’re scum in either group, you can’t target your own group because you’ll just get found out asap, either by night kill or vote eventually?

im Writing and walking so I will have to think this out, just putting this out for people to engage with
 
JALMONT said:
Just thinking out loud mostly sorry lol. You’re right about believing what he says results wise which I just hate.

2 pr vs 1 pr is not this game. Honestly haven’t really considered two vanilla goon. We have Realiti/ipl crossing, you leaning towards hitting the vanilla group. Psy wants to vote in the PRs, af does too, and neon is a zero. Is it too simplistic to say that if you’re scum in either group, you can’t target your own group because you’ll just get found out asap, either by night kill or vote eventually?

im Writing and walking so I will have to think this out, just putting this out for people to engage with
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That’s actually an interesting point, the you can’t target your own group since you’ll just get found out eventually. Truly did not cross my mind lol, but it sounds correct for sure.
Aura Guardian said:
After deadline so not counted. Though others may charge you with it.

Final Day 1 Votecount
ZippyDoo200 (4): Ehmcee, imperfectluck, Jalmont, realiti
Lady Salamence (3): HydrogenHydreigon, pulsar512b, ZippyDoo200
ToasterBoi420 (3): Celever, ImaginaryNeon, Psypsypsypsypsythe
imperfectluck (1): bluegummybear
pulsar512b (1): Lady Salamence
realiti (1): ToasterBoi420

ZippyDoo200 was voted... he was...

The village is thus diminished.

It is now Night 1. Night 1 ends midnight EDT on Oct 20.
https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/fight?iso=20231020T00&p0=263&msg=Night+1+End&font=serif&csz=1
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D1 is gonna matter way way less in this regard but I think it’s probably worth including.

Claimed PR(? Did Zippy actually claim to have a role I think he did but wouldn’t put money on it): IPL, realiti, a fairy

Claimed vt: me, Psy, Neon
Aura Guardian said:
Votecount 2.final
ToasterBoi420 (4): a fairy, Psypsypsypsypsythe, pulsar512b, realiti
imperfectluck (2): Celever, JALMONT
a fairy (1): HydrogenHydreigon
Celever (1): imperfectluck
ImaginaryNeon (1): ImaginaryNeon
realiti (1): ToasterBoi420

JALMONT (-infinity): Innocent Child

While I double-check this: please report any problems you can see.
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Claimed vt: a fairy, Psy, realiti
Claimed pr: me, IPL (crossed)
Himself: Neon

I guess I wanted to see if anyone moved from their tribe to the other one on D2, and realiti did, even keeping IPL alive. Could be that he clocked onto this logic once BGB died and most of the vts were sailing with very little sus on them, I could believe it. I don’t think he clicks onto the logic if he’s pulsar’s buddy, though maybe they actually both do work that out as a team of 2 PRs where the only other PRs left besides them are me and IPL and they expected one of us to get voted D3. That actually might be likelier than realiti working it out as BGB’s partner.

This could be nothing or could be something, especially considering it may provide an explanation for the Hydro shot, if PRs decided they wanted to start cutting the vt numbers sooner rather than later.

Concerning present day, probably if realiti/IPL are the last two scum and realiti caught onto this, he feels fine cutting IPL loose here and trying the 1v5 run from here? He probably should’ve mobilised to a vt when I started speculating about PR or goon distribution but maybe he didn’t read that wall closely to realised we’d wise up about it lol. Realiti is also the guy who stopped us from no voting early though, which might be LHF contrib but he’s probably put in a good position if it happens. I don’t think a world where scum!realiti figured this out and has played accordingly really fits if so. And if IPL is scum I don’t think he figured it out either, I mean none of his behaviour yesterday or today would make sense in that universe.

There could well be a case for Psy and fairy pushing this on me, realiti and IPL here though, if it’s 2 goons and they worked it out. OTOH at least one of them either didn’t work it out until D3 because of the Hydro kill, or because pulsar was still alive when they killed Hydro they wanted to preserve the PR pool more? If so, I’d say that’s likelier to come from a fairy than Psy as a fairy had caught more heat so pulsar being the endgame on their faction would fit, but I suppose it literally doesn’t matter since it’s both or neither.

I’m tired and I’m not sure any of this is remotely coherent
 
Did that take 26 minutes to write and think about god.

I’m in bed idk if I’m making it to deadline btw. Psy was to see if literally anything would happen in thread and it didn’t. Didn’t even get a fight from it since Psy was rightly just happy about his piercings.

I’m frustrated by this bc from most to least scum I’d prob say like, IPL Psy fairy realiti Neon. This is like the only reason why I’m even entertaining 2 v 1 PR, and I maintain BGB’s abil is really weak compared to pulsar’s so I still believe it’s possible but it’s hard to conclude that until we get another scum flip anyway. If, say, BGB’s partner flips also with a weak abil, I think we can’t rule 2 v 1 out.

Anyway, im considering shifting my vote again, clearly this only ends on IPL or realiti. I’ve townread realiti all game but it might be tinfoil o clock and also I guess it doesn’t matter unless it’s 2 v 1 PR because either realiti and IPL are scum or neither of them are so order is irrelevant.
 
I’m back and can engage in this thread now
Current vote count appears to be 3:3, Neon needs to vote still
Playmaker Neon deciding this entire game? No matter what even if Neon votes me at least vote please, don’t let this mylo day be decided by a tie coin flip
 
imperfectluck said:
I’m back and can engage in this thread now
Current vote count appears to be 3:3, Neon needs to vote still
Playmaker Neon deciding this entire game? No matter what even if Neon votes me at least vote please, don’t let this mylo day be decided by a tie coin flip
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I mean I’m currently on Psy lol but no one’s gonna let it tie
 
imperfectluck said:
Well I’m basically assuming Celever is more willing to vote me than realiti but feel free to prove me wrong
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I mean yes but if that would make it 3-3 I would vote realiti just because ties are upsetting

I don’t think JALMONT or Psy’s votes are locked rn anyway fwiw I could see them moving (not is fairy’s but she’s leaving soon)
 
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