This is fixed. I contacted some of the PS guys. Don't bring Showdown things into this thread in the future though.
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SPOILERS! Pokemon Sword and Shield Datamine Thread
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Oh okay, thanks
Genesect is listed in that leak above, however. & despite my reservations when it was first posted, I think it's pretty likely real by this point.
So while this list...
doesnt have the Drives listed, I can see it either being added later or there will just straight up be a brand new item that works like the Rotom Catalog to swap around Genesect's drives.
if only a CERTAIN OTHER pokemon with a LOT OF ITEMS TO ITS NAME would have gotten the same treatment!
JUST MAKE A MEMORY CASE WHAT POSSIBLE REASON IS THERE FOR THERE TO DO THIS WITH ROTOM BUT NOT THE 17 SILVALLY MEMORIES GAMEFREAK YOU DONT EVEN HAVE US GATHER THEN ONE BY ONE OH MY G--
Ideally this hypothetical Memory Case would work like z crystals. You use it in the pocket, select your memory, select your silvally and viola, the memory is now attached as an item.
Is there a way to datamine how to get the Cramorant machine to spit out Apricorn Balls? It seems pretty RNG-centric, but somebody apparently has gotten a Safari Ball from it. Maybe we should start a specific thread on Cram-O-Matic findings?
The Cram-o-matic is completely deterministic. Shoving the same four items will always yield the same return.
The thing is that it's quite weird in a lot of recipes. Say, two Liechi Berries and two Hondew Berries, me thinking it might yield an Adamant Mint (because it's two berries that raise Attack when consumed, and two that lower Special Attack), yields a White Herb instead.
Or how four Nuggets make a Big Nugget (sounds logical), but four Exp Candies don't make a larger Exp Candy, but a Psychic-type TR (which depends on the Candy size, and is completely illogical).
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I found a Spreadsheet that has Cram-o-matic recipes... but they haven't found out how to make Mints yet:
On the note of new mythicals:
We're expecting Victini to return.
We can now update a Pokemon to be legal to use in ranked competitions, but doing so requires us to erase its moveset. There have been ranked competitions where mythicals were allowed before, albeit rarely.
V-Create is been in the game and has been since release. In fact, it has the curious distinction of being one of two moves which were released with the vanilla game and fully animated, but which could not be legally used by anything. (I believe it's now the only move for which this is still true.)
Secret Sword has had its tutor removed and the move was put into Keldeo's standard movepool.
Common sense would dictate, then, that V-Create should probably become a standard level-up move for Victini, rather than being locked behind specific distributions. But you know what GF is like.
We're expecting Victini to return.
We can now update a Pokemon to be legal to use in ranked competitions, but doing so requires us to erase its moveset. There have been ranked competitions where mythicals were allowed before, albeit rarely.
V-Create is been in the game and has been since release. In fact, it has the curious distinction of being one of two moves which were released with the vanilla game and fully animated, but which could not be legally used by anything. (I believe it's now the only move for which this is still true.)
Secret Sword has had its tutor removed and the move was put into Keldeo's standard movepool.
Common sense would dictate, then, that V-Create should probably become a standard level-up move for Victini, rather than being locked behind specific distributions. But you know what GF is like.
Are we sure that mints can come out at all, then?
Unless someone happens to datamine what can come out of the Cramo-matic, it seems like we might just have to brute force working it out.
I have been keeping an eye over a few places and haven't seen anything which even says Apricorn balls can come out of it... It's usually just a mix of balls and you need 4 Apricorns to try (no other recipe appears to give out Pokeballs). Considering Apricorns themselves seem to be only semi common but can only drop once per day, it may take some time before we can actually figure it out.
With having to save before you put stuff into the Cramo-matic, its very hard to just brute force recipes. You basically are forced to give up the items you're putting in and I'd much prefer to have fixed recipes...
I have been keeping an eye over a few places and haven't seen anything which even says Apricorn balls can come out of it... It's usually just a mix of balls and you need 4 Apricorns to try (no other recipe appears to give out Pokeballs). Considering Apricorns themselves seem to be only semi common but can only drop once per day, it may take some time before we can actually figure it out.
With having to save before you put stuff into the Cramo-matic, its very hard to just brute force recipes. You basically are forced to give up the items you're putting in and I'd much prefer to have fixed recipes...
On that spreadsheet, someone has an interesting hypothesis for the parameters of the Cram-O-Matic:
Specific Output = ItemID , ItemCat1 , ItemCat2 , ItemCat3
This explains why there can be multiple recipes that begin with the same item or why there are 5 different berries you can use in a recipe. Thoughts? Might make it easier to find the recipes for all items, even if it is still through just trial and error.
Specific Output = ItemID , ItemCat1 , ItemCat2 , ItemCat3
This explains why there can be multiple recipes that begin with the same item or why there are 5 different berries you can use in a recipe. Thoughts? Might make it easier to find the recipes for all items, even if it is still through just trial and error.
I took R_N 's speculative list of returning pokémon for the Crown Tundra, and made some guesses on what Isle of Armor tutor moves they might get, based on the current distributions.
Some of these guesses are more obvious than others, such as Dual Wingbeat. It seems that if a pokémon has wings (even vestigial ones), it can learn Dual Wingbeat. On the other hand, I couldn't really find a common thread in the distribution for Terrain Pulse (other than that aura/pulse focused pokémon like Blastoise, Lucario and Clawitzer got it), so I left it out entirely.
- NidoranF
- Nidorina
- Nidoqueen - Lash Out, Scorching Sands
- NidoranM
- Nidorino
- Nidoking - Lash Out, Scorching Sands
- Zubat - Dual Wingbeat
- Golbat - Dual Wingbeat
- Jynx - Expanding Force
- Electabuzz - Rising Voltage
- Magmar - Burning Jealousy, Scorching Sands
- Omanyte - Meteor Beam, Skitter Smack
- Omastar - Meteor Beam, Skitter Smack
- Kabuto - Meteor Beam, Skitter Smack
- Kabutops - Meteor Beam, Skitter Smack
- Aerodactyl - Meteor Beam, Dual Wingbeat
- Articuno - Dual Wingbeat
- Articuno-G - Expanding Force, Dual Wingbeat
- Zapdos - Rising Voltage, Dual Wingbeat
- Zapdos-G - Dual Wingbeat
- Moltres - Burning Jealousy, Dual Wingbeat, Scorching Sands
- Moltres-G - Burning Jealousy, Lash Out, Dual Wingbeat
- Dratini - Scale Shot
- Dragonair - Scale Shot
- Dragonite - Scale Shot, Dual Wingbeat
- Crobat - Dual Wingbeat
- Smoochum - Expanding Force
- Elekid - Rising Voltage
- Magby - Burning Jealousy, Scorching Sands
- Raikou - Rising Voltage
- Entei - Scorching Sands
- Suicune
- Lugia - Expanding Force, Scale Shot, Dual Wingbeat
- Ho-oh - Dual Wingbeat, Scorching Sands
- Treecko - Grassy Glide
- Grovyle - Grassy Glide
- Sceptile - Scale Shot, Grassy Glide
- Torchic - Scorching Sands
- Combusken - Coaching, Scorching Sands
- Blaziken - Coaching, Scorching Sands
- Mudkip - Flip Turn
- Marshtomp - Flip Turn
- Swampert - Flip Turn
- Aron - Steel Roller, Meteor Beam
- Lairon - Steel Roller, Meteor Beam
- Aggron - Steel Roller, Meteor Beam
- Swablu - Dual Wingbeat
- Altaria - Dual Wingbeat
- Lileeep - Meteor Beam, Grassy Glide
- Cradily - Meteor Beam, Grassy Glide
- Anorith - Meteor Beam, Skitter Smack
- Armaldo - Meteor Beam, Skitter Smack
- Absol - Burning Jealousy, Lash Out
- Spheal - Steel Roller
- Sealeo - Steel Roller
- Walrein - Steel Roller
- Relicanth - Scale Shot, Meteor Beam
- Bagon - Scale Shot
- Shelgon - Scale Shot
- Salamence - Scale Shot, Lash Out, Dual Wingbeat
- Beldum
- Metang - Expanding Force, Steel Roller, Meteor Beam
- Metagross - Expanding Force, Steel Roller, Meteor Beam
- Regirock - Meteor Beam
- Regice
- Registeel - Steel Roller
- Latias - Expanding Force, Dual Wingbeat
- Latios - Expanding Force, Dual Wingbeat
- Kyogre
- Groudon - Steel Roller, Scorching Sands
- Rayquaza - Scale Shot, Meteor Beam
- Spiritomb - Burning Jealousy, Lash Out, Poltergeist
- Gible - Scale Shot, Scorching Sands
- Gabite - Scale Shot, Scorching Sands
- Garchomp - Scale Shot, Scorching Sands
- Electivire - Rising Voltage
- Magmortar - Burning Jealousy, Scorching Sands
- Uxie - Expanding Force
- Mesprit - Expanding Force
- Azelf - Expanding Force
- Dialga - Steel Roller, Scale Shot
- Palkia - Scale Shot, Meteor Beam
- Heatran - Steel Roller, Scorching Sands
- Regigigas
- Giratina - Scale Shot, Poltergeist
- Cresselia - Expanding Force
- Victini - Expanding Force, Dual Wingbeat, Scorching Sands
- Audino
- Tirtouga - Scale Shot, Meteor Beam
- Carracosta - Scale Shot, Meteor Beam
- Archen - Meteor Beam, Dual Wingbeat
- Archeops - Meteor Beam, Dual Wingbeat
- Cryogonal
- Tornadus
- Thundurus - Rising Voltage
- Landorus - Scorching Sands
- Genesect - Skitter Smack
- Tyrunt - Scale Shot, Meteor Beam
- Tyrantrum - Scale Shot, Meteor Beam
- Amaura - Meteor Beam
- Aurorus - Meteor Beam
- Carbink - Meteor Beam, Misty Explosion
- Xerneas - Misty Explosion
- Yveltal - Lash Out, Dual Wingbeat
- Zygarde - Scale Shot, Scorching Sands
- Diancie - Meteor Beam, Misty Explosion
- Volcanion
- Tapu Koko - Rising Voltage
- Tapu Lele - Expanding Force
- Tapu Bulu - Grassy Glide
- Tapu Fini - Misty Explosion
- Nihilego - Meteor Beam
- Buzzwole - Skitter Smack, Coaching, Dual Wingbeat
- Pheromosa - Skitter Smack, Coaching, Triple Axel
- Xurkitree - Rising Voltage
- Celesteela - Steel Roller
- Kartana - Grassy Glide
- Guzzlord - Steel Roller, Scale Shot, Lash Out
- Poipole - Corrosive Gas
- Nagandel - Scale Shot, Corrosive Gas, Dual Wingbeat
- Stakataka - Steel Roller, Meteor Beam
- Blacephalon - Burning Jealousy, Poltergeist
God please no. No please no.
On a more serious note, I feel the new Tutor moves bar Misty Explosion can lead to viable terrain teams.
I sure hope they add V-create to its movepool, it's bizarre that Victini's signature move is an event move. It didn't even come with it for the mythical distribution in gen 6.
That said, the special battle spot seasons/competitions in gen 7 that allowed mythicals didn't have the region requirement, so I'm bracing myself for "well we don't need to add it to Victini's movepool because the only times we ever allowed mythicals the competitions weren't region-locked anyways" GF logic.
Now we just need those special seasons to return in the first place...
Well technically its signature move is Searing Shot, but I see what you mean. V-Create was made specifically for it anyway.
it definitely does lol considering you can break subs and damage the mon with multiple hits
Rayquaza also gets V-create from a Gen 5 event. Does that mean they could add that to its level-up pool as well?
It's victini's move
It was given to Rayquaza as part of a special event in the same way Darkrai got the space/time moves, but it is so obviously & completely designed for Victini in name & animation
I can also see Pokémon like Volcanion getting Misty Explosion due to its theme being about steam and mist (It got Misty Terrain from the Home datamine). Other things I can see getting:
Triple Axel (The design of its legs)
Flip Turn
Burning Jealousy
Lash Out, Scorching Sands, Steel Roller, Terrain Pulse
Terrain Pulse
Dual Wingbeat (Its Therian Forme exists)
Flip TurnI'll include the Crown Tundra mons as well
Regieleki: Rising Voltage
Regidrago: Burning Jealousy, Lash Out, Scale Shot
Calyrex: Expanding Force, Grassy Glide
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I think that's more likely to get put in the "legacy moves" pile. Rayquaza only got it as one distribution; as R_N said, it's clearly designed for Victini and has been distributed on it countless times. In fact, the original Liberty Island distribution and the 20th anniversary event (which gave every Pokemon the same movesets as their first distribution) are the only distributions which haven't had it.
Good speculation, but I think Swampert's chances of getting Flip Turn are approaching zero. Being a starter he might get special treatment, but the only Water/Ground to receive a tutor was Gastrodon with Skitter Smack as I recall. Whiscash didn't even get Flip Turn by virtue of being fish-shaped. As a similarly themed mom to Quag and Seismitoad especially, I don't think Swampert has much a chance.
He might get Lash Out though, as he has access to an assortment of Counter-ish moves.
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