SPOILERS! Pokemon Legends: Arceus *Leak Thread*

Flarowak

Flarowak

TURBODERP said:
On one hand, losing the speed and HP is a bit sad, but the buff to Defense is actually notable because it means Goodra can do stuff like take Specs Lele's Psyshock quite a bit better (even if you account for the added Steel typing, I'm talking 80/100 vs 90/70 HP/Def comparison).
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It's definitely a difference, and they left the atks alone so it isn't gonna be able to hit back pretty well.
 
pecanbegone

pecanbegone

StarFalcon555 said:
guy posted the rest of the Hisuian stats so I'm bumping this with more differences:
  • H-Braviary has decreases in all of its stats except HP and Special Attack, the latter of which gets a huge boost
  • H-Zorua line has less HP and Attack and more Special Attack and Speed
  • H-Samurott has less Special Attack and Defense and more Attack and Speed
  • H-Lilligant has massively decreased Special Attack and solid-sized increases to Attack and Speed
  • White Stripe Basculin has the same stat spread as the other Basculin forms
  • H-Sliggoo and Goodra get massive boosts to their Defense at the cost of HP and Speed
  • H-Avalugg has reduced Special Attack, Special Defense, and Speed, but increased Attack
  • H-Decidueye has reduced Special Attack, Special Defense, and Speed, but increased HP, Attack, and Defense
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avalugg's speed is actually higher, not lower
 
Flarowak

Flarowak

Raffness said:
Damn, I kinda wish Samurott had lost more special attack for attack. At least he got like 15 more base speed.
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I'm feeling that way about decidueye. However, Decidueye's changes aren't really bad at all. Overall, more bulk and attack is great for that mon tbh. I almost for sure thought Samurott would've just gotten a bigger sp atk drop for some atk.
 
ScraftyIsTheBest

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doipy hooves said:
I'm pretty sure it is still 74, just the row above is offset by a bit.
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StarFalcon555 said:
Just went to the Excel sheet the dude linked and scrolled all the way down to the bottom. Enamorus-I's HP is indeed 74.

edit: wait no nvm I mixed it up with Enamorus-T the HP value still says 70 for Enamorus-I

Looking at the other genies, though, their HP values are the same between their Incarnate and Therian formes, so there was a fuckup somewhere
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The OP confirmed that it was a typo on their part, and that Enamorus-I's HP is actually 74. They have since updated the listing accordingly.

So that settles that, and both forms do in fact have a BST of 580.
 
Ludicrousity

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Part one of abilities from Hematite. Again unsure if they're in the game, but these are from the sheet that listed the base stats.

Wyrdeer: Intimidate / Frisk // Sap Sipper
Kleavor: Swarm / Sheer Force // Steadfast
Ursaluna: Guts / Bulletproof // Unnerve
Basculegion (both): Rattled / Adaptability // Mold Breaker
Sneasler: Pressure // Poison Touch
Overqwil: Poison Point / Swift Swim // Intimidate
Enamorus (Incarnate): Healer // Contrary
Enamorus (Therian): Overcoat
 
ThreeT

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Ludicrousity said:
Part one of abilities from Hematite. Again unsure if they're in the game, but these are from the sheet that listed the base stats.

Wyrdeer: Intimidate / Frisk // Sap Sipper
Kleavor: Swarm / Sheer Force // Steadfast
Ursaluna: Guts / Bulletproof // Unnerve
Basculegion (both): Rattled / Adaptability // Mold Breaker
Sneasler: Pressure // Poison Touch
Overqwil: Poison Point / Swift Swim // Intimidate
Enamorus (Incarnate): Healer // Contrary
Enamorus (Therian): Overcoat
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Whose idea was it to keep Ursaluna with guts.
Basculegion keeping Adaptability is great
Wyrdeer and Overqwil keeping Intimidate is also amazing.
 
CynicalGiant

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list of the new evolution stat comparisons either with their prevo or the other evolution in that family
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URSARING: 90/130/75/75/75/55 (500)

URSALUNA: 130/140/105/45/80/50 (550)

+40 HP, +10 ATK, +30 DEF, -30 SATK, +5 SDEF, -5 SPEED

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STANTLER: 73/95/62/85/65/85 (465)

WYRDEER: 103/105/72/105/75/65 (525)

+30 HP, +10 ATK, +10 DEF, +20 SATK, +10 SDEF, -20 SPEED

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H-QWILFISH: 65/95/85/55/55/85 (440)

OVERQWIL: 85/115/95/65/65/85 (510)

+20 HP, +20 ATK, +10 DEF, +10 SATK, +10 SDEF

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SCIZOR: 70/130/100/55/80/65 (500)

KLEAVOR: 70/135/95/45/70/85 (500)

+5 ATK, -5 DEF, -10 SATK, -10 SDEF, +20 SPEED

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H-BASCULIN: 70/92/65/80/55/98 (460)

M-BASCULEGION: 120/112/65/80/75/78 (530)

+50 HP, +30 ATK, +20 SDEF, -20 SPEED

H-BASCULIN: 70/92/65/80/55/98 (460)

F-BASCULEGION: 120/92/65/100/75/78 (530)

+50 HP, +20 SATK, +20 SDEF, -20 SPEED

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WEAVILE: 70/120/65/45/85/125 (510)

SNEASLER: 80/130/60/40/80/120 (510)

+10 HP, +10 ATK, -5 DEF, -5 SATK, -5 SDEF, -5 SPEED

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All the Husian form stat comparisons.

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TYPHLOSION: 78/84/78/109/85/100 (534)

H-TYPHLOSION: 73/84/78/119/85/95 (534)

-5 HP, +10 SATK, -5 SPEED

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SAMUROTT: 95/100/85/108/70/70 (528)

H-SAMUROTT: 90/108/80/100/65/85 (528)

-5 HP, +8 ATK, -5 DEF, -8 SATK, -5 SDEF, +15 SPEED

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DECIDUEYE: 78/107/75/100/100/70 (530)

H-DECIDUEYE: 88/112/80/95/95/60 (530)

+10 HP, +5 ATK, +5 DEF, -5 SATK, -5 SDEF, -10 SPEED

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GROWLITHE: 55/70/45/70/50/60 (350)

H-GROWLITHE: 60/75/45/65/50/55 (350)

+5 HP, +5 ATK ,-5 SATK, -5 SPEED

ARCANINE: 90/110/80/100/80/95 (555

H-ARCANINE: 95/115/80/95/80/90 (555)

+ 5 HP, +5 ATK, -5 SATK, -5 SPEED

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LILLIGANT: 70/60/75/110/75/90 (480)

H-LILLIGANT: 70/105/75/50/75/105 (480)

+45 ATK, -60 SATK, +15 SPEED

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ZORUA: 40/65/40/80/40/65 (330)

H-ZORUA: 35/60/40/85/40/70 (330)

-5 HP, -5 ATK, +5 SATK, +5 SPEED

ZOROARK: 60/105/60/120/60/105 (510)

H-ZOROARK: 55/100/60/125/60/110 (510)

-5 HP, -5 ATK, +5 SATK, +5 SPEED

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SLIGGOO: 68/75/53/83/113/60 (452)

H-SLIGGOO: 58/75/83/83/113/40 (452)

-10 HP, +30 DEF, -20 SPEED

GOODRA: 90/100/70/110/150/80 (600)

H-GOODRA: 80/100/100/110/150/60 (600)

-10 HP, +30 DEF, -20 SPEED

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BRAVIARY: 100/123/75/57/75/80 (510)

H-BRAVIARY: 110/83/70/112/70/65 (510)

+10 HP, -40 ATK, -5 DEF, +55 SATK, -5 SDEF, -15 SPEED

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AVALUGG: 95/117/184/44/46/28 (514)

H-AVALUGG: 95/127/184/34/36/38 (514)

+10 ATK, -10 SATK, -10 SDEF, +10 SPEED

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DIALGA: 100/120/120/150/100/90 (680)

H-DIALGA: 100/100/120/150/120/90 (680)

-20 ATK, +20 SDEF

PALKIA: 90/120/100/150/120/100 (680)

H-PALKIA: 90/100/100/150/120/120 (680)

-20 ATK, +20 SPEED

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Melons-N-Soda

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Ludicrousity said:
Part one of abilities from Hematite. Again unsure if they're in the game, but these are from the sheet that listed the base stats.

Wyrdeer: Intimidate / Frisk // Sap Sipper
Kleavor: Swarm / Sheer Force // Steadfast
Ursaluna: Guts / Bulletproof // Unnerve
Basculegion (both): Rattled / Adaptability // Mold Breaker
Sneasler: Pressure // Poison Touch
Overqwil: Poison Point / Swift Swim // Intimidate
Enamorus (Incarnate): Healer // Contrary
Enamorus (Therian): Overcoat
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I imagine Adaptability Poltergeist is gonna be deadly when you're able to transfer this to future gens even if Basculegion's Attack stat ain't crazy.

Overqwil is another addition to the "non-Water type Swift Swimmers" club alongside Beartic and Armaldo. Unlike those two though, this actually has a decent speed stat for Rain sweeper purposes.

Kleavor not keeping Technician sucks, but hey maybe it can get good Sheer Force moves.
 
Liquidocelot

Liquidocelot

Melons-N-Soda said:
I imagine Adaptability Poltergeist is gonna be deadly when you're able to transfer this to future gens even if Basculegion's Attack stat ain't crazy.

Overqwil is another addition to the "non-Water type Swift Swimmers" club alongside Beartic and Armaldo. Unlike those two though, this actually has a decent speed stat for Rain sweeper purposes.

Kleavor not keeping Technician sucks, but hey maybe it can get good Sheer Force moves.
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Sheer Force Stone Edge/Rock Slide could be pretty deadly.
 

Birdbrain103

TURBODERP said:
Ursaluna getting Bulletproof is actually really interesting - being immune to Aura Sphere/Focus Blast is really quite nice. But Guts is just great, although it is quite slow and thus might not be able to take as much advantage of it barring Trick Room teams (which will love it).
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Being a fat normal type completely immune to any attempt to focus blast or aura sphere it is pretty massive.
 
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