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also in this scene why didn't they just fly straight up. the ships can go any directioon right? why go under the dying ships lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Rx8_vjbXX4

They still have inertia and are being pulled down by the gravity. So it would be quicker to drop down then go back up

ok then that's actually somewhat satisfactory lol

What about the other thng

I agree they are both godly lines

but like what does Zim's even mean? was he not trying to actually make a point, just be even more smartass than Ace?

Point was adanced technology doesn't protect you from basic attacks

not literally and directly, but Ace has a point that technology does afford a level of distance

As advanced as we are, we still should learn the basics of human combat because it gives greater understanding. Why do we learn math in school if computers exist, eh?

Yea but that seems more like an actual argument to make, not an excuse to stab one of your trainees. But I guess that was just part of the whole fascism thing

They have advanced healing so he's fine