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  1. 658Greninja

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion

    It has the utility but the bulk and typing is just not there. Gambit walls it, Tusk knocks it, it doesn’t do any meaningful dmg to Chomp, Volc scares it, forced out by Ghold if it doesn’t click Shackle on the switch. The sad thing is though this is a better defogger in the meta than Corv, but so...
  2. 658Greninja

    Resource SV Ubers Viability Rankings

    What caused Palafin to rise? What caused Flutter Mane to drop?
  3. 658Greninja

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion

    Edit: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/sv-ou-metagame-discussion-see-post-7570-new-tiering-survey.3710915/post-9478697 gonna just drop this in case you want more spikes counterplay
  4. 658Greninja

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion

    Imagine still complaining about Dozo in March 2023. As for Ghold. No doubt its the mon that it had the biggest influence on the metagame. Making OU revolve around the hazard v hazard removal game. However its influence does not restrict teambuilding like other broken threats we’ve seen. It has...
  5. 658Greninja

    Pokémon Walking Wake

    252 SpA Choice Specs Walking Wake Draco Meteor over 2 turns vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Slowking: 315-371 (79.9 - 94.1%) -- not a KO 252 SpA Choice Specs Walking Wake Draco Meteor over 2 turns vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Clodsire: 334-396 (72.1 - 85.5%) -- not a KO Pex is 2HKOd even with SpD investment...
  6. 658Greninja

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion

    I don’t see WW as broken. Reason #1: Reliance on Sun The calcs with WW under sun are scary, but it also only fits on sun teams which have several bad mus, mostly from the likes of Pult, Moon, Glimm, etc. (also rain teams to an extent). Chi-Yu didn’t need sun to blow up everything in sight. Pao...
  7. 658Greninja

    Resource SV RU Viability Rankings

    seeing Whiscash find a niche in a tier brings a smile to my face
  8. 658Greninja

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion

    Kleavor’s defensive typing is shit. Both STABs are resisted by the two most common pokes Tusks/Ghold and more on top of facing competition from other physical threats. The move Stone Axe sounds good, but the lackluster speed + lack of priority hurts it. I could see it doing good in the lower tiers.
  9. 658Greninja

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion

    Gonna jump in with the Home discussion so I’m just gonna talk about what I think will be good, viable, or broken. The Broken (Single) The four horsemen of the OU apocalypse, no shot they are staying. In fact GF in their infinite wisdom decided to buff them. Lando-I has always been broken but...
  10. 658Greninja

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion

    What makes Worm balanced with Shed Tail compared to Cyclizar is Worm only gets 1-2 chances at most to get off a Shed Tail at most. You could pair it with Healing Wish Hatt, but that still takes up an additional teamslot and only increases the chances by 1. The chances are lesser when you...
  11. 658Greninja

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion

    The “Greedunt has an OU niche” guy be spitting facts. Tera has led to a meta where even mons that have never had an OU niche are useable now. Luxray, Cryogonal, Golduck, Umbreon, etc. They barely reach D tier but the fact that they have a small niche in this power crept tier shows the benefits...
  12. 658Greninja

    Resource Simple Questions, Simple Answers Thread

    https://pokepast.es/ec71b56196eeef78 what is the ev spread for Skele on this team for? (njnp’s Sub-Skele Offense)
  13. 658Greninja

    Resource Scarlet and Violet UU Viability Rankings

    Oricorio-Pom Pom going from PU to being a UU staple from Gen 7 to Gen 9 is an absolute power move.
  14. 658Greninja

    RU Stage 2 - Welcome Back (RU Beta Starts | Light Clay banned, see post #30)

    Never would I have thought Drednaw would go from trash in PU to being RUBL in the next generation
  15. 658Greninja

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion

    Fellas, the perfect love card to send to your sweetheart.
  16. 658Greninja

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion

    I don’t know what to say to you at this point. I’m just gonna end off this convo with this. Teambuilding is a skill you build upon through experience and metagame knowledge. Its simply practice on what you want to build around, your offensive/defensive cores, pivots, hazards, etc. If you want...
  17. 658Greninja

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion

    Regen does not shrug off rocks or spikes. It heals by 33% and that number is reduced by rocks. Amoonguss ran mostly Hidden Power Fire in older gens to hit Ferro. Synthesis is mentioned in the strategy dex for Gen 5, however 9 times out of ten the former is chosen. Synthesis is usually just...
  18. 658Greninja

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion

    You don’t need to minimize speed, you go max speed for Washtom. (Timid for 52 speed Tusks). Analytic deals more damage when they switch, and since Zone forces alot of switch-ins, this is a genuine strat. Again, it is comparing apples to oranges because you are taking the pro-Pao arguments...
  19. 658Greninja

    Resource SV OU Viability Ranking Thread [ UPDATE: POST #390 ]

    So 2 days ago I posted some noms. However like I said earlier, I would most likely make a part 2 after the Pao ban. Well we got two bans with Espa joining in in Ubers. This overall causes a massive shift in the meta. I still stand with most of my noms, some are further justified by the bans...
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