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  1. Soda

    Metagame SS OU Metagame Discussion (Usage stats in post #944)

    Doesn't basically any Sylveon set with Hyper Voice wreck this though along with Sylveon being a decent pick in general? It's slightly niche but wish passing is never a bad thing. It does seem like there's a lot of Disable shenanigans popping up but I haven't encountered much. I'm still busting...
  2. Soda

    Metagame SS OU Metagame Discussion (Usage stats in post #944)

    I agree and I am pro Dynamax ban. I was just using that as an example that there are things that people wouldn't be willing to do in terms of changing the game. I was defending my point that Smogon does still try to go as much with the games as possible. I feel my point has been made and at...
  3. Soda

    Metagame SS OU Metagame Discussion (Usage stats in post #944)

    Why don't you just make all the decisions then? Why is there even a thread? Do you represent Smogon and all of its policies and interests? Not everyone has the exact same philosophy as you dude. You seem to think I am oblivious to the fact that Smogon is a competitively minded site and is about...
  4. Soda

    Metagame SS OU Metagame Discussion (Usage stats in post #944)

    The more I play OU, the more I am ready for Dynamax to go. It's a foregone conclusion at this point that it will be banned, and I'm ready to start playing the actual metagame. The versatility it gives Choice item users is ridiculous and while I have had many "normal" games maaany of them just...
  5. Soda

    Metagame SS OU Metagame Discussion (Usage stats in post #944)

    I have tried Lapras and had mixed results with it. I was initially attracted to it because of the extremely valuable Water Absorb and also a x4 Ice resist which is great vs Darmaritan. Aurora Veil is nice but a weird thing to use your Dynamax on. Especially if it's used on the first turn of your...
  6. Soda

    Metagame SS OU Metagame Discussion (Usage stats in post #944)

    There are so many little changes to Dmax that would've made it more manageable, namely to remove the secondary effects (or tone them down) or allow phazing. Sure every team would have Red Card/phazing on it, but there have been metas before that required a phazer. At this point I still think...
  7. Soda

    Metagame SS OU Metagame Discussion (Usage stats in post #944)

    um lol th point i was making is that there r plenty of dumb af mechnics n this gam that stay bcus they are...part of th game. u can call that some arbitrary ass reason i guess lol anywho
  8. Soda

    Metagame SS OU Metagame Discussion (Usage stats in post #944)

    I never said that Dynamax should stay. I said people should understand why there might be trepidation in completely banning the mechanic at the beginning of a generation. It's not the same as banning Baton Pass or Shadow Tag. Those have been banned in previous generations, of course it's not...
  9. Soda

    Metagame SS OU Metagame Discussion (Usage stats in post #944)

    I just wanna respond to you and everyone else that think there haven't always been mechanics in Pokemon that were total and utter bullshit - there have always been. There have always been incredibly centralizing mechanics, Pokemon, and moves in this game. Your limit may be Dynamax, and some...
  10. Soda

    Metagame SS OU Metagame Discussion (Usage stats in post #944)

    I think the thing about a second ladder is that even if the "unofficial" ladder is the Dynamax tier, that will still get a lot of traction because it is the one with this generation's "gimmick" and the one that's closest to cart. I'm thinking that will attract players just on that basis alone...
  11. Soda

    Metagame SS OU Metagame Discussion (Usage stats in post #944)

    Honestly reading through all of these posts I think non dynamax and dynamax Galar tiers might be the way to go. Smogon can decide on which one is the "main" or "supported" tier and clearly most people would prefer that to be non Dynamax. Just as an observer though, completely shunning a mechanic...
  12. Soda

    SPOILERS! Pokemon Sword and Shield Datamine Thread

    I played a little and didn't find Dmax too overwhelming, but I don't think the mechanics were completely ironed out. I'm pretty sure on Showdown Choice Band was giving my Conkledurr a boost when it was in Dynamax, as it 2HKO'd a Toxapex with a fighting move lol. Most of the moves don't increase...
  13. Soda

    SPOILERS! Pokemon Sword & Shield Pre-Release SPOILERS - Check Post 2!

    Something to think about though is that Pokemon didn't become Pokemon from doing what they're doing now. The old games had a magic that stayed with kids forever and made them life long fans, strengthening the brand even if they were no longer the target audience. Pokemon Go only makes what it...
  14. Soda

    SPOILERS! Pokemon Sword and Shield Datamine Thread

    I was gonna say Water Absorb mons would be a pretty good stop to Gyarados but then they gave it Power Whip :puff: Gmax Lapras with Tbolt/Freeze Dry couldve been a great counter. Gyarados might finally break the meta...Is Zeraora faster than +1 speed Gyarados? If so he might be a reliable check...
  15. Soda

    SPOILERS! Pokemon Sword and Shield Datamine Thread

    I thought Dynamax BP moves weren't that high? I mean Gyarados setting up its own rain and Gengar being able to Nasty Plot and then get another boost from poison max moves is pretty insane, but still seems manageable. Dynamax would have to literally ruin the entire game to need to be quickbanned...
  16. Soda

    SPOILERS! Pokemon Sword and Shield Datamine Thread

    I know I've asked this before but in all of this new info have we finally found out if D-Max Pokemon can get phazed out by Roar, Red Card, etc?
  17. Soda

    SPOILERS! Pokemon Sword & Shield Pre-Release SPOILERS - Check Post 2!

    Cursola's hidden ability: Perish Body When hit by a move that makes direct contact, the Pokémon and the attacker will faint after three turns unless they switch out of battle. It has crap defenses but this is a pretty cool ability! Way better than Weak Armor. She can at least put certain...
  18. Soda

    SPOILERS! Pokemon Sword & Shield Pre-Release SPOILERS - Check Post 2!

    I really don't mind the new designs, Pokemon designs have been kinda "out there" for a while now and these don't feel any different. They fit right in with designs from the past few generations. Then again, if you asked me when gen 5 was first coming out I probably said something like that...
  19. Soda

    SPOILERS! Pokemon Sword & Shield Pre-Release SPOILERS - Check Post 2!

    I can see it going both ways but I hope they do allow it. It would just add a lot of counterplay to some of the more ridiculous dmax pokemon like Gyarados dragon dancing and setting up his own rain etc. But it makes sense if flinching doesn't work, protect doesn't fully work, that they would've...
  20. Soda

    SPOILERS! Pokemon Sword & Shield Pre-Release SPOILERS - Check Post 2!

    Apparently I joined this forum 10 years ago...so much life has passed. :psysad: I haven't seen much discussion oh phazing out Dynamaxed pokemon. Do Roar/Whirlwind/Red Card work? I'm already seeing myself have a Red Card Pokemon on my teams just to troll anyone trying to get too crazy. It could...
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