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  1. Carl_the_turtle

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v3 [ SEE POST 1876, new SUSPECT ]

    bait used to be believable To not make this a one-liner and to say “to not make this a one-liner” since I find the aversion to it pretty humourous in general, how do people feel about Moth in DLC1? While the prevalence of new waters and Gliscor aren’t the best for it, the downtick in Glowking...
  2. Carl_the_turtle

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v3 [ SEE POST 1876, new SUSPECT ]

    How is it possible to put these two sentences almost next to each other and not see the irony in "I should be allowed to use my favourites and let them , but YOU shouldn't." disregarding everything else wrong with this.
  3. Carl_the_turtle

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v3 [ SEE POST 1876, new SUSPECT ]

    Has anyone experimented with Hatt to deal with Gliscor? I know it's not exactly the strongest mon in OU, but in theory it would wall the spikes/toxic/tect set that's been brought up in this thread. EQ is a 5hko without the gliscor investing in attack, and Hatt does get a chance to set up CMs and...
  4. Carl_the_turtle

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v3 [ SEE POST 1876, new SUSPECT ]

    what if instead of banning ogerpon-hearthflame, they banned saying "ogerpon-hearthflame" or "firepon" in the thread so everyone had to make daddybuzzwole-esque nicknames for it when discussing its merits Jokes aside, I want to ask a question for those who believe that at least one Ogerpon form...
  5. Carl_the_turtle

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v3 [ SEE POST 1876, new SUSPECT ]

    252+ Atk Choice Band Palafin-Hero Wave Crash vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Dondozo: 123-145 (24.4 - 28.7%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery 252+ Atk Choice Band Palafin-Hero Wave Crash vs. 252 HP / 156+ Def Tera Water Garganacl: 121-143 (29.9 - 35.3%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Leftovers recovery...
  6. Carl_the_turtle

    SPOILERS! Scarlet & Violet: The Teal Mask

    i think if it gets roost and toxic/defog it'll be good until then, no way.
  7. Carl_the_turtle

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v2 [Update on Post #5186]

    the absolute state of suicide lead powercreep :(
  8. Carl_the_turtle

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v2 [Update on Post #5186]

    Great recap. One thing I'm wondering though, is there a list of mons that dropped to unranked this VR slate? While I appreciate the new format of updating the VR, making it easier to see the changes, that section from previous slates appears to be missing.
  9. Carl_the_turtle

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v2 [Update on Post #5186]

    151? I'm waiting on the region where everything is a legendary pokemon and your starter is like cosmog or phione or something
  10. Carl_the_turtle

    Announcement np: SV OU Suspect Process, Round 5 - King's Dead

    There was a suspect of Tera already. No Action won due to supermajority rules at 41%-59%. Does the matter look settled to you? The fact is that we need to find a agreement of what problematic elements of Tera need to be suspected, because repeating the previous test is an exercise in futility...
  11. Carl_the_turtle

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v2 [Update on Post #5186]

    I mean we got a rock type move with 100% accuracy this gen... now everyone wants it gone.
  12. Carl_the_turtle

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v2 [Update on Post #5186]

    I'm a little confused on the QC debate because of glowbro. Would Quick Draw end up getting the boot if Quick Claw was banned? Is the issue here the continued inconsistent priority fishing being potentially uncompetitive or the ability to spam it, since glowbro is one of the weaker users? (I have...
  13. Carl_the_turtle

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v2 [Update on Post #5186]

    "OU unplayable" lol, lmao even, hop on freedom cup Yes, a lot of the new options are monstrously strong, but I wouldn't call it overbearing.
  14. Carl_the_turtle

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v2 [Update on Post #5186]

    stall deals with gambit by switching in a dozo and cursing up gambit is more reliant on its SD sets to break than luna, who has higher attack, higher base power, and still outspeeds stall lol as someone running it ironpress garg is decent against it if you can get a turn to set up (and are a...
  15. Carl_the_turtle

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v2 [Update on Post #5186]

    While you're at it, give everything with a 4.52% usage rate in AG a ban in Ubers, out of fairness, and accepting that you're using AG level pokemon in Ubers. Make AG a real tier. (this is a bad idea, applying this to any prevgen OU would result in half the meta threats being banned, this isn't a...
  16. Carl_the_turtle

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v2 [Update on Post #5186]

    It genuinely feels as though the community is breathing down the council's neck for one tiering policy that they deem unsatisfactory when every other action done by the council this gen has been incredibly quick given extenuating circumstances and limited timeframe and on point at that time in...
  17. Carl_the_turtle

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v2 [Update on Post #5186]

    252+ SpA Choice Specs Glaceon Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Ursaluna: 578-684 (124.5 - 147.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO 252+ SpA Choice Specs Glaceon Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Sneasler: 289-342 (96 - 113.6%) -- 75% chance to OHKO 252+ SpA Choice Specs Glaceon Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Zamazenta...
  18. Carl_the_turtle

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v2 [Update on Post #5186]

    CP is finally being removed from the OU tier :mad:
  19. Carl_the_turtle

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion

    Potentially, since these mons are both very strong physical attackers, but that's not a fault with Wicked Blow. Heck, if RM or KG got Knock Off in the current state of the meta they would likely be discussed for bans.
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