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To be fully honest, if ghold got banned now, I'm not entirely convinced that it would be balanced enough come dlc2 to warrant a drop - much like my opinions on volc being too much for the tier even now. Unless we get confirmation of a defog tm that lets us have defoggers that can feasibly deal...

I mean they definitely have, gen 2, 3, and 4 are to this day very hazard-centric metas, with cloyster being top 3 in gsc, and skarm being top 2 and 5 in adv and dpp respectively. There is a core difference here, though. Gen 2 only had spikes stackable to one layer, meaning that spinning is far...

+2 252 SpA Gholdengo Make It Rain vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Vessel of Ruin Ting-Lu: 249-294 (48.4 - 57.1%) -- 46.9% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery If ghold catches it resting or if it decides to check anything else ghold comes out on top, it's a check to ghold - but is kinda shaky as far...

I think gweezing is just gonna be a better mon overall - you mentionned ting lu, which is currently made worse by ghold's presence imo, funnily enough. With levitate it bullies p much every physical attacker except cinderace (immune to burn and pyro ball does about 40), zamazenta (heavy slam...

I can actually help with this one, the team you mentioned is semi-stall. Stall mons like blissey, two attacks dozo, and amnesia clod have zero focus on offensive presence and exert little to no immediate offensive presence, however balance walls like dirge, toxic clod, and garg have a much more...

:sneasler: 5 :gholdengo: 5 :kingambit: 5 :manaphy: 3 :ogerpon-wellspring: 5 Other: Acupressure Will not be elaborating further

I watched a dude nearly make it to top 500 on ladder with a team that consisted of 5 leads and a kingambit

Big Ho™ strikes again

torn-t. it's immune to eq, can use taunt to block toxic, has regenerator so doesn't mind getting hit by toxic all that much, and uses it as setup fodder

To play devil's advocate here, none of these moves actually work once the mon has set up (especially haze, a move which the only user of in the tier is weak to psychic). We don't, as a whole I think one of the reasons that the tera suspect failed to get anything was because it was too early in...

I feel the need to mention that as far as things go tera poison is better than tera steel on hydreigon as it gains a fighting resist and doesn’t have a fire weakness, in fact its only weakness after the tera is psychic - which doesn’t matter. Hydreigon faces stiff competition rn from other...

Anyway what are our thoughts on boots wake in the current meta, with flip turn and knock off it can do a good job of baiting in and punishing its own switch ins and with surf it can ohko standard defensive gliscor, while scald can threaten burns on regular water switches, with the exception of...

It’d get a boost to speed by taking webs

Corv, hatterene, clef, reg slowking, and tech moves like worry seed amoonguss or skill swap ribombee are all very prone to ghold. Other answers like torn t or dondozo aren’t extremely weak to ghold, but are nerfed by its presence (torn t is forced to run heat wave > focus blast, dozo can’t use...

BECAUSE TEAMS ARE BUILT WITH GHOLD IN MIND, NOT USING GHOLD DOESN’T MEAN THAT EVERYONE ELSE ISN’T BUILDING WITH IT IN MIND ANYMORE

More specifically, I think the reason lax is unbannable in gen 2 is because it leaves blissey as the best check for the electrics - a mon that is p exclusive to stall teams in that gen - and if you ban the electrics with lax then the problem is that teams basically get divided into stall or...

it has lower special bulk than corv, the physical bulk is definitely higher

Can't do it twice tho. Also even outside of the ghold mu (which is real bad for maus), it doesn't really do great due to it's frailty. For example gliscor's earthquake will guaranteed 2hko after a single spike, while it needs the boost to ohko gliscor with pop bomb in return.