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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v3 [5 Days until DLC2]

    It was never the speed boosting that broke it. BoltBeam, with the option of a free choice boost, alongside STAB U-Turn, while also being fairly fast makes it rough. And it can tera into a defensive type if needed also. Plus, boots to prevent hazard damage... no way it sticks in the format.
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v3 [5 Days until DLC2]

    Yeah, I meant for DLC2. Not now, as that would be just plain stupid (I'd rather see a Ghold suspect than a Darkrai drop) The reason I compare more to flutter and bundle over spectrier, is more that spectrier (traditionally) struggled with tanky normal and darks (Though draining kiss flipped...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v3 [5 Days until DLC2]

    Honestly, probs time to test it. People thought the council were mad for unbanning Blaziken last gen, and look where it ended up. Imo, it's more comparable to Flutter Mane and Iron Bundle, in terms of power and speed. It's gonna get banned likely, but we then can't say we didn't try.
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v3 [5 Days until DLC2]

    Thing is, there is no time for a suspect. And reasonable time to settle. The format as we know it is is going to be gone in 3 weeks. I think the council's best option here is just to vote on QBing Ghold (and/or gambit). QB with a future retest is a tool that the OU council has used in the past...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v3 [5 Days until DLC2]

    Honestly, don't think there's enough time for the council to run a suspect before the end of the format. I do hope that there is QB action on a couple of mons before the end of the format, so we can see what the format is like without them (Kingambit and Gholdengo). They'll be back in the next...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v3 [5 Days until DLC2]

    Thing is: if we could control hazards with more certainty, then bulkier teams would see usage, and help tackle the harder offensive ones. Like, early on in gen 9, I used Corv for Defog. Amazing still, but, it just lost to any Gholdengo teams. Can't touch it, but still one of the best defoggers...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v3 [5 Days until DLC2]

    Actually, Ghold is the reason for the boots stuff. We have good options for hazard control, but one pesky Ghold, and it's tough to break, leading to big chip, and quite often. Hence the higher need for boots on pretty much everything. Would love to run leftovers on Blissey and Dozo, but the...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v3 [5 Days until DLC2]

    Enjoyable Metagame: 1/10 (If I could go lower, I would) Ever since Gliscor's ban, the meta has spiraled into one of the worst metagames of recent memory. Even worse than early metas. It was the 2nd ban that had no effect on the core heart of the meta's problems (Who will be obvious from my...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v3 [5 Days until DLC2]

    Just like Kingambit is the ultimate reversal mon, Valiant is the Ultimate revenge killer. Very good offensive STABs, an ability that gives it a choice scarf (Only once per game with booster, or while terrain is up), and very potent physical, special and mixed sets, with strong setup options on...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v3 [5 Days until DLC2]

    Now, name the Pokémon that would drop because they were banned to Tera... And that list kinda sticks about 3 Pokémon now and maybe up to 5. Way less than your doom and gloom 10+.
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v3 [5 Days until DLC2]

    Wow... Congratulations to everyone who voted ban in the suspect, you've got your wish for a format: a HO hellhole. The kneejerk reaction to one single game was absolutely hilarious to watch, but the fallout will be rough. Might as well drop the format for a month while OU implodes on itself...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v3 [5 Days until DLC2]

    My answers and discussion on the format at hand: How enjoyable is the format: 2/10. I really dislike the format. It's very polarised between the hard aggressive teams and the stallier teams. Most that reside in the middle get roughed up by the extremes. How competitive is the format: 2/10...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v3 [5 Days until DLC2]

    It's not Gliscor that's a problem. Glisc is fine. Gholdengo is more of a problem in the meta than Glisc, warping the Hazard removal/control game to revolve pretty much around 3 Pokemon: Itself, Cinderace and Great Tusk. If we removed Gholdengo, we get a more open format on the Hazard Meta...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v3 [5 Days until DLC2]

    My thoughts on the complaining things: :gliscor: 2/5 It's just old gen tanky lando, but with better recovery. Good knock absorber. Fights tusk as best Ground, but Tusk's more offensive nature makes it very usable. Not broken imo, just annoying. L2P better into it, and don't just throw things at...
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    SV OU Future Sight Munkidori PEAKED #8 (#1983)

    On Samu, you can get the exact same stats with: EVs: 252 HP / 56 Atk / 176 SpD / 16 Spe Jolly Nature While freeing 8 EVs to allocate to your choice
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v3 [5 Days until DLC2]

    I agree with a lot of this. On the discussion points: Kingambit: Should have been banned, but I think a lot of DNB folks wanted tera action, and didn't realize that there would unlikely be a tera suspect until the new year (Unless there was a drastic breaking to it). It still feels stupid, and...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v3 [5 Days until DLC2]

    That's was the point of the post. I put some options out there, but it's not really a Mon I think that should be OU this time. It's a strong special sweeper, that could work in OU. Dragapult is the closest I could go for in OU. Otherwise, the better comparison would be Weavile/Sneasler, due to...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v3 [5 Days until DLC2]

    It's less a positive role, more people think it's balanced enough for OU. It took a nerf to Dark Void back in gen 7 (Thanks VGC 16), and really just became a fast Nasty Plot Mon or quick Specs Mon. People thought the council were nuts for dropping Blaziken in CT, but that dropped to UU BL. With...
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    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v2 [Update on Post #5186]

    :Volcarona: 1 - the QB was the right decision I think in hindsight. Otherwise, we would have ended up in a similar situation we are in now. People were attached to Volcarona being OU for so long, and it would be another Tier Tera Vs Ban broken Mons. Last gen, it nearly went, and it was one of...
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    Metagame Terastallization Tiering Discussion, Part II [CLOSED FOR DLC]

    Like in my post on it, Winter 23 for DLC 2 would put it way too close to a November suspect. Like, we are still squabbling over the current format, and can't even decide the best tera suspect method (Ranked sucks and you get the least satisfaction, and yes/no ban won't get enough support). It's...
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