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  1. OU RBY OU Ladder / "Jank" Discussion Thread

    Lead Raichu is a decentish option, as it scares off Starmie without letting Rhydon in free, and can outspeed and OHKO Jynx with a crit Hyper Beam(or be sleep fodder if you don't get the crit). It's not that great, but it's better than what the standard meta leads except Gar can do to Jynx. Eggy...
  2. OU RBY OU Discussion Thread

    Note that Pokemon Stadium did in fact rework a lot of stuff like crit rates, sleep, Hyper Beam, fixing Substitute and Focus Energy, etc. so if you're looking to play a "patched" version of the OU meta, Stadium OU might be worth looking into. The balance issues in RBY are not exactly news to...
  3. OU RBY OU Discussion Thread

    That's most of the OU tier. I honestly have more success on ladder using 1 or 2 off-meta mons like Victreebell, Raichu, Lapras, etc. than running more meta teams. Also you said banning Reflect Lax and Chansey would make Persian more viable when most of its niche is Slash going right through...
  4. OU RBY OU Discussion Thread

    I use Raichu more in midgame to pressure Starmie and open up holes. Lategame it lacks power and I'd rather use another Electric. Even against Rhydon teams I'd rather have Jolteon because with a crit Double Kick you can at least get past one that's taken an Ice Beam, plus it actually outspeeds...
  5. OU RBY OU Discussion Thread

    Raichu isn't gonna reliably take down a fully healthy Chansey either way, but running Submission means you can feasibly start fishing for crits/FP on a paralyzed Chansey at around 80%, whereas for Hyper Beam you need the Chansey to be down to 40% before reliably KOing. Also if Raichu KOs itself...
  6. OU RBY OU Ladder Achievements (Season 2 now starting!!!)

    Claiming Cascade Badge for Win Streak and Boulderbadge for ELO. Edit: Claiming Cascade Badge for ELO and Thunder Badge for GXE. Update 2: Claiming Rainbow Badge for both ELO and GXE.
  7. OU RBY OU Discussion Thread

    Raichu is incredibly frail and doesn't always beat everything you'd expect. Low roll against Rhydon is depressing. It's hilarious when you Submission yourself into Chansey and die of recoil but leave Chansey at low HP. Raichu belongs in D because it kind of, sort of works, sometimes. And...
  8. OU RBY OU Ladder / "Jank" Discussion Thread

    Kabutops isn't a shitmon, it has a very real albeit small niche. Mind you it's only really worth using when IceLax and Reflect + Ice Beam Chansey are prevalent, which is not now, but its utility is real. And I maintain that Aerodactyl isn't completely useless either, about as usable as a lot of...
  9. OU RBY OU Discussion Thread

    Alakazam outperforming Eggy is noteworthy. Zam is just a consistent mon, and while he's not the most versatile pick with the most coverage options, his lack of weaknesses on the Special side and amazing Speed make him a consistent lead. Personally Zam is my favorite lead overall. Early-game...
  10. OU RBY OU Ladder / "Jank" Discussion Thread

    Ranking the fossils, I have to say Kabutops > Aerodactyl > Omastar. Kabutops is just a solid mon. It's not amazing or anything, but it's always lurking, and when Reflect Chansey/Reflect + IB Lax rise it'll be there to exploit them. Aerodactyl having both a Normal resist and a Ground Immunity...
  11. OU RBY OU Ladder / "Jank" Discussion Thread

    Aerodactyl resists Normal, is immune to Ground, outspeeds Tauros and Persian, and has Fire Blast. No other Flying type, nor any other mon that learns Fire Blast, can outspeed Tauros. Aero does have a few unique and very valuable tools to deter physical attackers, especially the most prominent...
  12. Gen 1 Rate my Gen 1 OU team

    I personally would not want to run that Snorlax set. Either commit to a 4 attack Lax or use Rest alongside Amnesia and/or Reflect to help tank things. Also if you're using Starmie as a lead Thunder Wave is generally recommended. Surf is more used on Starmie in the back for lategame neutral...
  13. Gen 1 [Gen1 OU] Double Fossil

    I feel like if you're gonna run Aerodactyl you don't need Kabutops much, considering Aero's ability to crit through Reflects anyway. Also I feel like Gengar just complements it better in terms of Snorlax coverage, as both fossils get hit hard by BoltBeam AmnesiaLax, which while rare, is a legit...
  14. OU RBY OU Viability Rankings

    Jolteon is really good and has a solid place in the meta and should never be placed below niche stuff like Kingler. The core 13 are the core 13 for very good reason. Honestly I find Jolteon putting in work more reliably than Zapdos given its insane crit rate. Zapdos is nevertheless threatening...
  15. Gen 1 From the Other Side - GyaraJolt [RBY OU]

    I ran lead Jynx instead of Eggy on this team. I think that makes the Zapdos matchup less bad. Gyarados is a fun mon with a real albeit small niche.
  16. Metagame SS OU Metagame Discussion Thread v7 (Usage Stats in post #3539)

    One thing I will say about Kyurem is that a lot of its checks overlap with other versatile and threatening mons like Dragapult and Lele. It's not all that hard to hold off just Kyurem, but Kyurem wears out its checks even if hazards can often wear it out too, and that can open up holes for other...
  17. Metagame SS OU Metagame Discussion Thread v7 (Usage Stats in post #3539)

    I've mostly been leaning towards Lando-T over Chomp on my recent teams for that reason in terms of a utility Rocker with offensive presence anyways. Mixed Chomp is cool as a Rocks setter and lure even if Landos have been trending more specially defensive and tanking Dracos better. And it is true...
  18. Metagame SS OU Metagame Discussion Thread v7 (Usage Stats in post #3539)

    I personally still like running Stone Edge on Chomp because I like Stealth Rock + Swords Dance for role compression. It's not really a threat to sweep itself without Scale Shot boosts, but if it can break the opposing Defogger while keeping Rocks up it can open up holes for something else. Chomp...
  19. Metagame SS OU Metagame Discussion Thread v7 (Usage Stats in post #3539)

    BandTar is indeed a beast. I like to pair him with Slowbro for the defensive synergy and to give him a free Teleport in, especially with Future Sight. The main drawbacks Tar has are a lack of speed and Stone Edge's annoying accuracy issues, but TTar is absolutely a formidable wallbreaker worth...
  20. Metagame SS OU Metagame Discussion Thread v7 (Usage Stats in post #3539)

    Buzzwole/Rillaboom/Koko/Victini is a pretty respectable offensive core with defensive utility. With Electric Terrain Thunderpunch Buzzwole and Bolt Strike Victini are considerably better at breaking annoying mons so Rillaboom can clean up. It's at least a good place to start building a team...
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