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  1. Metagame USUM UU - General Discussion & Trends Thread!

    There was some commenting on Zoroark earlier, and I thought I'd pick up on that a bit with a basic oversight. Zoroark is fundamentally a lure, and I think its biggest problem is the UU usage statistics. Among the first 30, only 3 - Latias, Gengar and Celebi - are weak to dark. Of those, Latias...
  2. Resource Simple Questions, Simple Answers Thread (read the op before posting a thread)

    I'm interested in why stealth rock is not/will not be suspect tested when other things are dropped down from ubers to be retested and other things are being suspect tested. To briefly support my question, you could consider stealth rock's impact on the metagame if it were a pokemon. Every team...
  3. Metagame Metagame Discussion Thread

    +1 to this and adding: Things that spam voltturn as their STAB dumb the game down because there is no counter-play to it. Let's take the example given in this post to counter U-turn. Scizor has knock off which doesn't just hit the mon in this particular example super-effectively, but makes it...
  4. Bug Reports v2.0 (READ OP BEFORE POSTING!!)

    Oh all right they changed it from what I remember then, I know for sure it wasn't the case at least on the PO emulator as I remember I always put it in slot 1 or 2 so it could still use illusion when things started fainting. Maybe it was just an oddity on PO, don't know. Guess that was that...
  5. Bug Reports v2.0 (READ OP BEFORE POSTING!!)

    I'm not really sure what you're trying to say. Has there been an update in the actual games where pokemon switch slots with each other when they're called in (effectively making Zoroark's ability one use per battle) and showdown just reflects that (I wouldn't know because I only play the...
  6. Bug Reports v2.0 (READ OP BEFORE POSTING!!)

    I was making an example of how the bug works, not referring to the replay. Or in case you meant to say this is an intended feature, I don't think it should be and to my memory it hasn't been in the past (at least not on PO).
  7. Bug Reports v2.0 (READ OP BEFORE POSTING!!)

    I believe that Illusion is bugged. It seems to make Zoroark swap team slots with the pokemon it imitates, effectively making the ability work once per battle. Example: you bring out Zoroark who is in slot 2 to imitate Blissey in slot 6. Illusion causes Zoroark to swap places with Blissey, making...
  8. Metagame Metagame Discussion Thread

    lol, that thing got boosted hard this gen. You gotta look out for it.
  9. Metagame Metagame Discussion Thread

    Well you don't need taunt anyway, all you have to do is put u-turn and knock off on your team and you've countered these defensive cores like Chansey+Toxapex because knock off means it's impossible to punish them for u-turns with rocky helmet. So just knock off first to get rid of the rocky...
  10. Metagame Metagame Discussion Thread

    I stopped laddering for this reason, the current meta is thoughtless and feels pointless to play. You can slap a team together in 5 minutes and it'll work just by picking stuff like Genesect, Landorus, Greninja and so on, and then you each spam your no-brainer moves until one of you wins based...
  11. Metagame Metagame Discussion Thread

    It's too weak. Those base stats just don't hold up when there's so many mons who attack with Poison, Steel and/or have double or more of Clefable's defensive stat in their own offensive stat. When you've got things like Specs Tapu Koko with Drizzle support spamming Thunder at you, Greninja going...
  12. Metagame Metagame Discussion Thread

    I'd like to add on to my previous statement about walls having a hard time spreading status because of all the status-immune typings that are common, and say that walls themselves are obsolete. Why? - Knock Off spam removes leftovers - Lots of status-immune pokemon around that can set up or...
  13. Pokémon Dhelmise

    Dhelmise's niche is being possibly the least passive spinner in the game. First because of its possible 397 Atk 225 power Gyro Balls. Second because Grass + Steel + Ground is coverage to hit every single type super-effectively that resists Gyro Ball except some mons like Skarmory off the top of...
  14. Metagame Metagame Discussion Thread

    Yeah I should have clarified. Toxic on stuff like Blissey is out, and Toxic to replace what would have been a coverage move is in.
  15. Metagame Metagame Discussion Thread

    I've noticed that Poison and Paralyze are hard to get off on teams because Steel, Poison, Ground and Electric types fill every team. Also U-switch is very common which helps people make the right predictions on avoiding status, there's Misty Terrain, and the extreme offensive power of everything...
  16. Metagame Metagame Discussion Thread

    Why would you use that instead of Landorus?
  17. On The Radar

    Sure, switch in your Toxapex, Alowak, Aegislash or Mantine. It's just spamming U-turns anyway, goes to Landorus and now you're checked again by an even more brain-dead pokemon than Pheromosa is. How much can your team take before the mindless spam of U-turn and Earth Power breaks your team down...
  18. On The Radar

    It's a result of how strong it is for sure so everyone prepares for it, combined with its checks (most notably Rocky Helmet Toxapex and Aegislash) being very good and highly splashable so you'd want to use them anyway. Also can we please look into Landorus, this thing is one of the most...
  19. On The Radar

    How on earth could Pory-Z be worth a suspect test? are we thinking of the same tier with things like Z-Drum Azumarill, Landorus, Greninja etc. running around?
  20. Metagame Metagame Discussion Thread

    Z-Drum Azumarill is just crazy, it's probably the best cleaner in the metagame. Thanks to its typing and aqua jet it can check a bunch of stuff while knock off lets it debilitate any switch-in, so it's not like it has no use before you set up the sweep. And then when it's time to sweep, press...
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