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  1. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [OLT HYPE]

    In my defense they mentioned how there were 3 banned dark types as part of the post.
  2. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [OLT HYPE]

    Ik people want Kyurem next, but I think Hazards (either through themselves or Ghold) or a redo of the Tera suspects would be best for the meta
  3. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [OLT HYPE]

    Tbf it is a lot like Gen 7 Fairies where the numbers are slightly inflated by the introduction of a powerful quartet.
  4. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [OLT HYPE]

    Good point, doesn't guarantee you a free attack in the same way yawn did but will still be pretty useful. Might have to get a hazard setter tho lol to maximise effectiveness
  5. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [OLT HYPE]

    rip there goes my Hydrapple set. What 's the best 4th move for a fickle + drain + ep set
  6. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [OLT HYPE]

    Yeah was exaggerating slightly. That said I still think it'll be UUBL in the end, as it doesn't offer much unique from the myriad of other fast attackers in the tier.
  7. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [OLT HYPE]

    I just want to say, Good riddance. regardless of it was ever broken it was never contirbuted anything positive to the game. Anyway, Amoongus and Darkai found dead in a ditch, anyone else?
  8. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [OLT HYPE]

    Would you mind explaining your thought process on tera suspect to me? To me, it doesn't seem quite as simple as Tera isn't a problem -> No Suspect. If its exclusively waited until the meta was at an unstable point for action to be considered, I would think the results would be inherently biased...
  9. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [OLT HYPE]

    Well the crux of my initial argument was moreso how little I wanted Chien-Pao back rather than a glowing endorsement from the rest. But yes I personally think they'll all get banned again, which Is why I'm not anti-tera, but the non delete buttons (Flutter, Bundle, Yu and Pao) should be given...
  10. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [OLT HYPE]

    It depends. If we get rid of Tera, we're back to square one in regards tot he meta in a lot of ways. Offense gets weaker, sure, but current defensive options do too- the joke that skeledirge is a fairy type is emblematic of this. The meta could be completely different to what it was before. In...
  11. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [OLT HYPE]

    Also I feel like its important that we shouldn't wait for the meta to destabilize before holding a tera suspect. If I recall correctly, Chien-Pao was legal last tera suspect, and was so bad that some people were legitimately proposing that STAB tera being banned would solve the issues with...
  12. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [OLT HYPE]

    NO NO NO NOT THAT THING AGAIN IT HAD 2 CHANCES ALREADY AND OVERSTAYED ITS WELCOME FAR TOO LONG genuinely, If tera does get banned, Only Unban the mons that haven't already had a second shot in OU. Bax, Urshifu, Heck palafin and annihilape now that we have Raging bolt
  13. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [OLT HYPE]

    ???????????????????????????????????? Just say you want the meta to be in a less stable position to help your anti-tera position lol. The meta hasn't changed an awful lot in the last 2 weeks or so. I don't see what you're waiting to develop. If anything, having a lot of mons be borderline...
  14. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [OLT HYPE]

    I've been saying it since the survey, now is def the time to retest tera once and for all.
  15. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [OLT HYPE]

    The thing is there aren't an exceptionally large number of ways to get that stat drop off. From my experience, if you switch in a mon and it goes for an SD, it's almost always over. That, and substituted can disrupt any attempts to status it and give it the free turn it needs to destroy teams.
  16. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [OLT HYPE]

    The set I thought of in 5 minutes was similar, but substituted knock of for jaw lock. Roaring Moon @ Heavy-Duty Boots Ability: Protosynthesis Tera Type: Poison EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpD Careful Nature - Jaw Lock - U-turn - Roost - Taunt Against a poisoned team this set just wins...
  17. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [OLT HYPE]

    IK the survey said that Tera would be discussed at a later date, but I don't really think it should be. The Meta is currently in a stable spot, which has been a rarity this generation, and there is no guarantee that it will continue remain this way after any tiering action. In my opinion, this...
  18. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [OLT HYPE]

    The wrinkle is that is looking into the usage stats Koraidon has about 5% more usage than Miraidon, while Bundle doesn't crack top 10 usage. Meanwhile, Future wins UU, while Past Takes RU. Last but not least, OU is complicated. Tusk takes #1, Overall usage is slightly in pasts favour due to...
  19. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [OLT HYPE]

    Now that (presumably) all the paradox Pokemon have been released which version do you think has the best set? I think Past is has a stronger presence is OU, but It's dead even overall, with Violet being more consistent but Scarlet having higher highs. Scarlet managed to hit 3 for 3 with the...
  20. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [OLT HYPE]

    As much as I dislike using choice scarf, I can't deny its the better pick for meow. It needs it to outspeed Darkrai, Deoxsys-S, Weavile and Boulder once booster is burnt, while also maintaining the speed advantage against other scarfers/booster mons/Ddanceers like Roaring Moon, Iron Valiant...
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