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  1. Jhang

    np: SV OU Suspect Process, Round 8 - Toxic [ Tiering Note Post #2 ]

    To change of pace on the *engo callbacks; I had a comment a while back about how much Gliscor has benefitted more from the fact that other mons have lost the kind of tools that Gliscor has kept on hand since gen V. It looks a break from Pokemon for Gen 8, and came back to a meta that suddenly...
  2. Jhang

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v3

    Will a rise of Maushold to OU make Furret the Maushold of UU? As for Skeledirge all it's waiting for is the right setup pokemon to be meta to find a bigger place in the meta, and I don't think the right setup pokemon have been in the meta for it to have that bigger place. It's my most favorite...
  3. Jhang

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v3

    Man I saw someone complaining about how Bisharp lost Rock Polish, and it makes a good thought. How well does a +2 speed gambit compare (or a double dance set) as a means to not have to rely on sucker punch. Does it still hit hard enough? Is it still fast enough to outpace scarfers or common fast...
  4. Jhang

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v3

    When NUbers comes out, it will finally be just OU with broken (thus making it popular new players obviously by the name). That is, until the broken gets NUUBBL'D. Why, we could even revision the meta starting from Ubers, with OU being the NUbers tier. As for OU itself, and the resurgence of the...
  5. Jhang

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v3

    I had the privilege of using Ribombee in lower tiers where it's sticky web support was more of another tool in its utility belt. From stun spore to trickaroo to quiver dance to even u turn, it can do a lot against not steel types with moonblast/bug buzz/psychic coverages as well. Really miss...
  6. Jhang

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v3

    I mean the Flutter Mane has to come from somewhere. Which also is a good example of 'what would Darkrai be like in OU'. Just a little bit slower than FM, and lot bulkier.
  7. Jhang

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v3

    The Darkrai conversation is always so weird to me because it seems to be in between Hypnosis and Nasty Plot, and ignoring the rather practical movepool it has. Forget Hypnosis, it has Taunt, Will O Wisp, Trick, and Thunder Wave, which seem like wild card tools to cripple would be checks or...
  8. Jhang

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v3

    Ever since Anything Goes became a legitimate tier where pokemon did get banned into, I have been cooly waiting for the Modest Proposal of an Overused Ubers tier and an Underused Ubers Tier, to seperate the Mewtwos from the Genesects and what not. To ensure a fun and diverse Ubers meta game in...
  9. Jhang

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v3

    Thank you all for your takes on it. I feel a little more comfortable with Waterpon sticking around now. Yeah Zen Headbutt rips Amoonguss apart at +2, but it's sounding more and more like 4MSS on the sweeping set. Of course then you get screens up and none of this matters but at least it's...
  10. Jhang

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v3

    Having played with the likes of Ludicolo in older lower tiers where rain is manual (and damp rock isn't banned), grass + water is a deceptively good if you have a coverage option that handles grass and dragon. Like Ice! Ogerpon doesn't get ice coverage, but it knows Play Rough, so dragons have...
  11. Jhang

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v3

    Great typing, great movepool, mediocre stats. In another gen long ago it would OU due to excellent utility matchups with top threats, but in the end, its stat distribution and total is basically Poliwrath with better speed and worse offenses and bulk. Oh and fantastic typing and utility...
  12. Jhang

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v3

    You know, now I am wondering: how bulky is Glastrier in snow, with and without screens. With a lack of priority, no Bulk Up, and a speed tier that acts as a middle ground between Avalugg and Avalugg but from Hisui, it isn't gonna make it a top wallbreaker nor bulky sweeper. But Bax sure made me...
  13. Jhang

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v3

    Having been a long time Abomasnower who swapped over to A-Tales begrudgingly for OU, A-Tales definitely has a bootleg Tyranitar thing going on where its bulkier than last gen by the virtue of the changes to snow. But it has some of the same problems as Tyranitar in that it's doesn't mesh too...
  14. Jhang

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v3

    How well does Geezing matchup with the different Gholdengo sets? Does it have what it takes to counter, or does Make It Rain just delete it?
  15. Jhang

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v2 [Update on Post #5186]

    Grassy Terrain + Grassy Glide on Rilla rounds out a strong utility suite that includes knock off and u-turn. Moyashi made the key points on the struggles with its offensive profile, and I would add that Tera-dependent Bulky setup sweepers with priority are a bit of a crowded field right now...
  16. Jhang

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v2 [Update on Post #5186]

    It makes you feel so bad for Ttar in the modern era. With that said, I think with ghosts wearing the hat of 'not being trappable' now a days, if pursuit came back, it would likely be a new kind of attack, with a new typing and everything to accommodate being bad vs ghosts instead of super...
  17. Jhang

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v2 [Update on Post #5186]

    Maybe a initial round of quickbanning, followed by followup council radars after the first round of quickbans settle out. Skip out the suspects, since any suspect would basically take up half to a third of the dlc 'season' and then zoom right straight into a brand new meta with dlc 2. I like...
  18. Jhang

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v2 [Update on Post #5186]

    Jellicent just lurking in the shadows, patiently wringing it's tentacles for it's time to relive the Gen V OU glory days.
  19. Jhang

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v2 [Update on Post #5186]

    While this is a very wishcasting phase of hypotheticals, but if another OU-ish viable mon got Rage Fist and became unmanageable because of it, and Rage Fist is banned like Shed Tail and Last Respects, would Annihilape still be too much for OU? I can't see the ghost ape dropping with Rage Fist as...
  20. Jhang

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v2 [Update on Post #5186]

    Like the fate of poor Aloha-Sandslash in the lower tiers last gen... Caught between a Snow Cloak and Slush Rush ban.
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