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  1. marcoasd

    The World Cup of Pokémon 2020 - Finals (Won by Team Italy)

    Honestly, I was the first italian guy to think we could've made it: unfortunately we didn't at the time and the exclusion of the old gen block from this specific cup made me lose all of the interest left. This is the cup I always wanted as a player and you allowed my former teammates and myself...
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    Gen 1 RBY OU Viability Ranking - Mark II

    First of all I feel like we need a different approach to tiering RBY pokemon, which should be based on the purpose of tiering: I like contributing to the process, but the ultimate goal is beyond me. Making a pokemon OU or not looks nothing more than an honorary title. PersonalIy I like RBY Ubers...
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    Gen 1 RBY OU Viability Ranking - Mark II

    Golem was better than Rhydon as long as PhysLax was the moveset of choice for Snorlax: you may talk about all of the differences you want, but it all comes down to this very simple rule of thumb and in the current state Golem is almost outclassed. That's also why we didn't realize immediately...
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    Gen 1 RBY OU Viability Ranking - Mark II

    I'll share some controversial thoughts. I recently topped the ladder, but playing in the tournament scene is a different story and I've been off of it for a while now. 1) Snorlax 2) Tauros ---- 3) Chansey ---- 4) Exeggutor 5) Starmie ---- 6) Zapdos 7) Alakazam 8) Rhydon 9) Cloyster ---- 10)...
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    Gen 1 SPL XI - RBY Discussion Thread

    Tricky data: Cloyster has the only glaring win rate (but a low usage) and Rhydon is the only pokemon with a bad one, everything else is without infamy and without praise. Also, it would be cool to investigate on how forfeits influence win rates - that's got to be the reason behind Tauros' win...
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    Gen 1 RBY OU/UU Cutoff discussion [check out post #45]

    Rhydon's CH Earthquake KOs Snorlax on a Rest cycle, through Reflect. No matter how different Golem is from Rhydon, RBY OU is all about Reflect Snorlax and Reflect Chansey - two matchups Golem can't claim over Rhydon. None of Articuno, Moltres, Golem, Persian or Dragonite feel OU. The tier is...
  7. marcoasd

    Gen 1 The RBY Survey Results

    Love this part, I feel like it's the most important one actually. Do it well, do it just one time. I'll remark that I stated that I'd like to test bigger issues first (Reflect, Rest) - specifically, I think that people are going mad against Wrap right now and they're only seeing the tip of the...
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    Gen 1 The future of RBY OU in Smogon

    The metagame does not revolve around a team from 10 years ago, and it's not winning consistently. It gets wrecked as soon as something goes wrong, just like Jynx bricking or Chansey getting frozen or Bel missing and so on, to make it even worse it's kinda weak against Tauros. Starmie as non...
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    Gen 1 The future of RBY OU in Smogon

    The problem with the current meta is that there is no reason not to run reflect teams because Snorlax and Chansey are not the pokemon that will stop wrappers anyway. You beat them using fast pokemon (your lead and your filler if it's fast enough, I could understand making a case for adding...
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    Gen 1 The future of RBY OU in Smogon

    Of course, nobody wanted to finish those games because that's not supposed to happen in competitive RBY because that's a total joke. We were fine with that as 12 years old playing battles with teams made up of random, weak pokemon with dirty moves (vale tudo, OHKO and minimize allowed) plus...
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    Gen 1 The future of RBY OU in Smogon

    Simulator vs Cartridge is a discussion that already took place somewhere, at some point: I remember some statements about HP being visualized as percentage versus a bar, PPs count being unavailable and so on. It's pretty clear that they're different in terms of comfort. On the other hand Sleep...
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    Gen 1 The future of RBY OU in Smogon

    Zam looks better than Jynx for this team, it fits better the pseudo stall strategy. Problems arise when the Alakazam/Chansey duo gets somewhat lucked via freeze or Egg breaking through (DE is way more common today) - Egg is the reason why Starmie ultimately beats you unless your Wrappers get to...
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    Gen 1 The future of RBY OU in Smogon

    That's a good starting point, I'm going to have fun with something similar these days. It benefits from Lapras being rare. Starmie is a major issue though, even as a lead that stays off paralysis - the usage is damn high. There's always some trick pushing back to S4.
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    Gen 1 The future of RBY OU in Smogon

    Well, it was banned by a forum but the main simulator allowed it I guess. Anyway, that was a different game. Of course Cloyster refuses to go down against a Snorlax variant without HB, but if this could work in the big picture we would have always seen a Cloyster spam in RBY after 2014 (which...
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    Gen 1 The future of RBY OU in Smogon

    Yeah, thanks for the historic memory which is always helpful but still, RBY post Body Slam tragedy was barely ever played on PO - only during its very first DAYS. I have made the point that my opinion on Wrap depends strictly on the context, you may not agree of course but bottom line we're...
  16. marcoasd

    Gen 1 The future of RBY OU in Smogon

    !?!?!? No, Wrap never was banned in first place. It's always been around with low usages, also because the team that beats it is already being used: Starmie + Zapdos, there's no need to build teams that lose against most stuff. Wrap punishes Rhydon teams, that aim at stopping Zapdos - it won't...
  17. marcoasd

    Gen 1 The future of RBY OU in Smogon

    TIN pretty much nailed it on the subject: Reflect Snorlax is countered (almost) only by itself. Snorlax is the best pokemon of the tier (the main difference with Tauros is that Tauros becomes manageable and/or gets KO'd at some point), and Reflect is the most important move. This obviously...
  18. marcoasd

    Gen 1 The future of RBY OU in Smogon

    They're all reasonable, but option number 3 is always available. I'd give both a shot, as a player I wouldn't be happy at all to see tradebacks taking OU's place but it looks like it has many supporters. Starmie + Rhydon has always been a thing and it's pretty unlikely it will disappear, that's...
  19. marcoasd

    Gen 1 The future of RBY OU in Smogon

    AgiliWrap is actually weaker simply because Dragonite contributes nothing other than wrapping (Thunder Wave over Hyper Beam is nothing better than a clunky fix), while other wrappers have better movesets. Yeah, AgiliWrap is the essence of what's wrong with Wrap but at the same time if you look...
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    Gen 1 The future of RBY OU in Smogon

    Peasounay 1) Chansey is a counter for everything but Tauros. This is a direct consequence of Body Slam tragedy, banning Reflect is only a way to make it sligthly better; going Exeggutor on Softboiled is the payoff after damaging Chansey (given and not granted your opponent hasn't got a status...
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