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Wouldn’t say this is a guarantee. I mean there will definitely be one in December or January, but I wouldn’t be refreshing forums looking for one this week anyway. Still discussing stuff internally and externally. Do not view anything as a major rush job. tldr is we are still sorting through...

This is not the thread for public discussion of ladder bots and any questions can be directed towards my PMs. Please do NOT bump this thread on this topic. I had a lot of people reach out to me ask about the topic and I wanted to let the people of the OU forum know I made a formal proposal...

Some people reached out to me to make sure this discussion did not die out and to get a formal proposal in writing, so to lay out what I personally feel is best as the tier leader of OU: Stop dead-end discussion of (blanket) bans on bots as this was already deemed impossible by PS side Continue...

This feels unnecessary to me. If you can reach the necessary thresholds on ladder, then your usage should be counted. If you do poorly, you will drop below. If you win enough games, you will maintain it and count towards usage. I think the status quo is sufficient and largely echo what Ruft and...

won, gg https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen5nu-892256

Sand got better over the last few months regardless of the bot. We saw a number of Tar Drill uses in SCL, for example.

Glad you’re interacting with the metagame and I appreciate the thoughts, but approval is needed before new threads pop up in order to avoid clutter and confusion. You can post metagame thoughts and exploration of Pokemon here for the most part...

I find this topic to be complicated because I hate the scheduling overlap of five feeder cups. It is a challenge just to fit every series within a week, let alone prepare sufficiently. I resonate a lot with the sentiments in the OP and subsequent posts about this. I feel we identified the...

You cannot claim the names are “historically entrenched” in Smogon’s identity without also accepting that usage based tiering is also “historically entrenched” in Smogon’s identity. The tiering system is what prompted the names. This is drifting away from the larger points, but if we changed the...

This is probably a lame take, but I do not personally feel the desire to ban anything from OU right now. After playing OU around the clock for 2-3 months for SCL, I spent the last week or two away, reflected a bit, and really do not think much stands out. The few things that stand out I do not...

After discussing this internally, we are going to maintain the status quo for the reasons Luigi and I mentioned above.

I proposed a form of this internally earlier as well as a way to jive with the current system while combatting bot skewed usage. It was met with some (very fair) resistance and should be discussed with depth before implemented, but imo it’s the least messy “fix”. I agree with this being an...

I do not like Tournaments becoming the source to derive usage stats too much either. You are decreasing the sample of games dramatically while just reframing the manipulation problem rather than solving it. If a YouTuber/public figure wanted to get a few hundred people to join OST to use a...

Viability based tiering should be a non-starter. Viability Rankings are incredibly raw and unofficial. They do not fit the mold of our defined metagames (OverUsed, UnderUsed, etc., not OverlyViable, UnderlyViable, etc.), they would require guidelines on what defines viability that are...

I think the status quo is fine personally. There is no “perfect” solution and things can take a long while, but I would argue that the extra time is well worthwhile here and fits the competitive nature of the tournaments. This is entirely irrelevant, by the way. And if this is a problem for...

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I have been on a bit of a break due to some IRL circumstances, but I am going to be back this week and I plan on getting the wheels turning on post-SCL SV OU tiering now that the tournament just ended. Everyone will hear about it when I have more information to present. Like previously, nothing...

Congrats, Shoguns! You guys overcame a lot to get here and it’s well deserved. 3d, it’s poetic that you clinched it after all you have been through this year. Proud of you brother! Good run, Spartans. You took a big leap this year and the future is bright. Really strong showing.

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won vs stepc, ggs https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen9ou-889680 https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen8ou-889689 thanks to my team for still trying despite a rough start, let's keep it going