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  1. robofiend

    Resource SS OU DLC2 Viability Ranking Thread [SEE: Page 105, Post 2618]

    I'm not sure I agree with this. While I agree that Quag is very hard to justify and generally underperforms on stall compared to other sweeper-stoppers like CM Unaware Clef, it boasts only one thing that Clef cannot: it handily beats LO Zeraora, Blaziken, and SD/Grav Lando. On the whole, those...
  2. robofiend

    Metagame SS OU Metagame Discussion Thread v7 (Usage Stats in post #3539)

    specs tran is good in sun but it's slow and hard to get in at 100%. I kinda prefer Zard's speed tier if we're going to talk sun nukes.
  3. robofiend

    Resource SS OU DLC2 Viability Ranking Thread [SEE: Page 105, Post 2618]

    If your Heatran here is running Toxic, Taunt, and Magma Storm (and presumably Protect as well) it's going to take a while for it to wear down Slowking. Even if it does, it's almost definitely going to eat a strong Water STAB in the process and basically be traded for a half-health Slowking who...
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    Announcement np: SS OU Suspect Process, Round 9 - Old Town Road

    Someone a couple pages ago was hating on Incineroar - of all the stupid Specterier Answers we have, Incineroar is actually among the worst at doing that job, but one of the more useful ones in the broader metagame. It can pivot, it can Toxic, it has two good stabs. It can check the annoying...
  5. robofiend

    Metagame SS OU Metagame Discussion Thread v7 (Usage Stats in post #3539)

    Obstagoon a bit underrated for its utility as a spectrier check imo. It's the only thing that really truly block Wisp+Hex, and actually benefits from its presence in the metagame.
  6. robofiend

    Metagame SS OU Metagame Discussion Thread v7 (Usage Stats in post #3539)

    Man I gotta say, Tapu Bulu is a bit underrated. Grass/Fairy typing with Sub, SD, High Horsepower, Superpower, Toxic, Leech Seed, Horn Leech... it's got options. Sometimes it's an instant win against the Clefable/Lando/Ferro/Pex/Heatran type teams, sometimes it just needs some help breaking...
  7. robofiend

    Metagame SS OU Metagame Discussion Thread v7 (Usage Stats in post #3539)

    I agree, can't make sense of Landorus-T when all of the meta's strong physical attackers (Urshifu, Pheramosa, G-Zapdos, Kartana, Zygarde, Dragapult, etc.) all either have abilities that negate intimidate, coverage moves to delete or disable it, or simply have the raw firepower to break it down...
  8. robofiend

    Metagame SS OU Metagame Discussion Thread v7 (Usage Stats in post #3539)

    Well, we all know Focus Blast misses 90% of the time. And Celesteela can 2HKO (after rocks). That's actually a good point about Gravity, though, that shit is ultra powerful, as are the sun team variants with OHKO Weather Ball. But a lot of the time I see Lando's running random moves like SR, CM...
  9. robofiend

    Metagame SS OU Metagame Discussion Thread v7 (Usage Stats in post #3539)

    BUT IT'S A BOX LEGENDARY!!! After playing this meta some more, updated opinions: Zygarde: Likely an eventual ban but should be suspected not QB'd - and especially not before some of these other jokers. Really hard to check at all because of TA and Toxic covering 99% of potential switch ins...
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    Metagame SS OU Metagame Discussion Thread v7 (Usage Stats in post #3539)

    I will say that in ladder world, where people don't always play or build well, that I've been running my pre-DLC BO squads and having an ok time. And to speak a little more to BO/defense: this update has given us some rock solid BO options. Between the birds, Celesteela, Zygarde, the Tapus...
  11. robofiend

    Metagame SS OU Metagame Discussion Thread v7 (Usage Stats in post #3539)

    Gotta say I was expecting this meta to be a total shitshow -- granted it's been less than 24 hours. But so far, my impressions: The loss of Hidden Power is huge for this meta. So many mons that previously had perfect coverage are now hindered by slightly less-than-perfect coverage. Koko, Lele...
  12. robofiend

    Metagame SS OU Metagame Discussion Thread v6 (Usage stats in post #408)

    I think the implication is that you'd just run a Timid set with special coverage like Psychic or Fire Blast so you don't have to give up on defenses
  13. robofiend

    Metagame SS OU Metagame Discussion Thread v6 (Usage stats in post #408)

    Urshifu's reliance on prediction is not to be undersold. When people say "Urshifu 1-2HKO's the entire tier" what they really mean is "Choice Band Urshifu 1-2HKO's the entire tier" - which means that good prediction is a necessary condition for its success. It's kind of funny to say that a mon...
  14. robofiend

    Metagame SS OU Metagame Discussion Thread v6 (Usage stats in post #408)

    Rachi is pretty good right now. Good defensive typing and movepool make it a poverty magearna and it can use UTurn to escape matchups it wouldn't otherwise like. Its speed tier is comfortably above non scarfed Urshifu, Hydreigon, and Kyurem, and its ability lets it cheese stall teams into...
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    Metagame SS OU Metagame Discussion Thread v5 (usage in post #547)

    So maybe the +SpDef would be the important factor here for you but since Lucha isn't grounded Zen Headbutt isn't going to ever beat Acro in terms of power - it doesn't benefit from Psychic Terrain other than by stopping priority
  16. robofiend

    Metagame SS OU Metagame Discussion Thread v5 (usage in post #547)

    Yeah so usually people won't run Tspikes + Toxic because it's sort of a waste to have both - except for the fact that HDB are pretty common, and then combined with the fact that many popular defoggers are poison weak, and then factor in Magic Guard, Levitate, and other abilities, and TS aren't...
  17. robofiend

    Metagame SS OU Metagame Discussion Thread v5 (usage in post #547)

    All you need to do is click "Pain Split" if you're scared. Not to mention you can pass Leech Seed or a wish to it relatively easy, depending on the circumstances because it has decent bulk to survive the neutral hits Clef/Chansey/Jirachi might not like. Also Weezing pairs well with Rillaboom for...
  18. robofiend

    Metagame SS OU Metagame Discussion Thread v5 (usage in post #547)

    I feel like Galarian Weezing does not get the respect it deserves. It's the one true Urshifu counter, it robs Azu of Huge power, it gets toxic spikes, it checks luchaboom cores, it robs Cinderace or Clef of their ability, it can annoy many common defoggers (Mantine, Pelipper, Mandi) by running...
  19. robofiend

    Metagame SS OU Metagame Discussion Thread v5 (usage in post #547)

    So far so good, it's dope to finally have a metagame rather than like 10 viable pokemon that make up every team Urshifu: Great mon, and great meta addition. The amount of pressure this thing exerts on bad teams is pretty extreme. Nonetheless, I think it's a force for good in the metagame that...
  20. robofiend

    Metagame SS OU Metagame Discussion v4 (check out posts #483 and 484 for DLC1 info!)

    On the Zone vs. Ferrothorn point - if it's not running Body Press, Zone can beat any standard Knock Off Ferro with this: Magnezone @ Leftovers Modest Nature Ability: Magnet Pull EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe - Substitute - Thunderbolt - Flash Cannon - Metal Sound I expect most Ferro will be...
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