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Smogon's Resident Robot
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1v1 is a metagame where you bring a team of three but only get to use one in battle. Your teambuilding skills are extremely important and your Team Preview mindgames must be sharp. A game can end in the blink of an eye.

Banlist:

Pokémon:
Arceus, Darkrai, Deoxys-Attack, Deoxys-Defense, Deoxys-Normal, Dialga, Giratina, Groudon, Ho-Oh, Kyogre, Kyurem-Black, Kyurem-White, Lugia, Lunala, Marshadow, Mega Kangaskhan (Kangaskhanite), Mega Salamence (Salamencite), Mewtwo, Mimikyu, Necrozma-Dawn-Wings, Necrozma-Dusk-Mane, Palkia, Rayquaza, Reshiram, Shaymin-Sky, Snorlax, Solgaleo, Tapu Koko, Xerneas, Yveltal, Zekrom

Items: Focus Sash

Moves: Perish Song, Z-Detect (Detect + Fightinium Z)

Clauses:

Accuracy Moves Clause: A Pokémon may not have the moves Flash, Kinesis, Leaf Tornado, Mirror Shot, Mud Bomb, Mud-Slap, Muddy Water, Night Daze, Octazooka, Sand Attack, or Smokescreen in its moveset.
Endless Battle Clause: Players cannot intentionally prevent an opponent from being able to end the game without forfeiting.
Evasion Moves Clause: A Pokémon may not have either Double Team or Minimize in its moveset.
Moody Clause: A team cannot have a Pokémon with the ability Moody.
OHKO Clause: A Pokémon may not have the moves Fissure, Guillotine, Horn Drill, or Sheer Cold in its moveset.
Species Clause: A player cannot have two Pokémon with the same National Pokédex number on a team.
Swagger Clause: Players cannot use the move Swagger.


Perish Song: December 6th 2016
[Quickbanned]
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(Unbanned) May 7th 2017
[Suspect][Results]
Accuracy-Reducing Moves: July 7th 2017
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(Banned) July 24th 2017
[Suspect][Results]
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August 8th 2017
[Quickbanned]
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(Not banned) October 2nd 2017
[Suspect][Results]
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November 17th 2017
[Unbanned]
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(Not banned) December 26th 2017
[Suspect][Results]
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(Not banned) January 18th 2018
[Suspect][Results]
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(Banned)
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(Not banned) Sleep: (Not banned) February 25th 2018
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(Banned) May 4th 2018
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(Banned) August 27th 2018
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(Banned) September 25th 2018
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Z-Detect (Banned) December 14th 2018
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(Not unbanned) February 18th 2019
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(Unbanned) March 12th 2019
[Suspect][Results]


1v1 Council:

Quote (Leader)
MaceMaster
Osra
TDA
UnleashOurPassion


1v1 Suspect Philosophy

As an attempt to draw visible traces between what is broken and what isn't broken, I will be posting the 1v1 tiering philosophy that should be referred as a base to construct your arguments on it. We definitely don't want this metagame to turn into Ubers 1v1 nor NU 1v1, we want to build a strict line and finish from a plethora of arguments with different philosophies in head. We won't follow OU or other metagame's tiering philosophy as 1v1 is a different concept which doesn't respond to the call. By studying the thread and the ladder for months, we have concluded:

1) A Pokemon is deemed suspect worthy if it's overcentralizing in the 1v1 metagame, a significantly high usage justifies the large scale it takes in the metagame which is unhealthy and needs to be looked on. This is 1v1 and not a battle between two teams, a Pokemon with high usage proves that its strong and easily splashable on most teams.

2) By definition a broken Pokemon is a Pokemon that doesn't have a lot of checks and counters. Let's define C&C in 1v1. A check is a Pokemon that can defeat another with a specific set but if it uses another it may lose. A counter is a Pokemon that can defeat another Pokemon no matter what it runs. Ex: Mega Blastoise is a check to Mega Charizard Y if it runs full spdf and mirror coat but Chansey is a counter to Mega Charizard Y as it can always beat it. A pokemon is deemed broken if it defeats at least more than the half of the metagame with a set or its other viable sets without having an opportunity cost, that was the case of Mega Salamence which could easily adjust between two sets and defeat more than half of the meta.

3) We do not judge by playstyle since this is 1v1. If a Pokemon defeats a stall team in 1v1 it shouldn't be looked into due to them having a lot of choices to pick from and being having only two-third of the team stallish doesn't stop the last member from defeating a more offensive Pokemon. Ex: If Mega Charizard Y defeats a stall team made of Mega Venusaur, Jellicent and Mandibuzz it's not the Pokemon that is broken, the team doesn't synergize to defeat common threats in the metagame which is your fault, same goes to offensive teams that loses to Chansey. They are S ranked for a reason.

4) We are not looking to make low ranked Pokemon viable in the metagame by banning high ranked Pokemon. It's not our fault if they weren't gifted with a good stats, and movesets to be viable in 1v1.

5) Please post your arguments smartly, and do not attack someone's else opinion or attack them directly, this is highly discouraged as it lowers your image and make people avoid listening to you. Some guidelines of posting are: Provide the topic of the Pokemon that you think is deemed suspect worthy, discuss it through the tiering philosophy by providing replays, calcs or strong arguments. Your arguments should provide a clear view of the Pokemon and how unhealthy it is, a list of Pokemon that can defeat it and if it has more than one set then list its sets. Don't bring up the kind of sets that are horrendously niche, they should have some amount of usage on the ladder.

6) Being an unpredictable Pokemon shouldn't be a strong trait to base your arguments on but still is a way of view and can be looked on. This is 1v1, it's sure that a lot of Pokemon will have different sets to check their checks and derailing from the norm is always something we should encourage as it helps in giving more life to the metagame. So, let's set up a clear definition of what an unpredictable Pokemon is: It's a Pokemon that can make use of different sets with little to no opportunity cost and still be able to beat half of the metagame with whatever set it runs. Per example an unpredictable Pokemon would be Mega Gyarados as it has a big movepool to pick from, and can adjust itself to beat some Pokemon, but that doesn't make it broken since it comes with some opportunity cost.

7) Staying on the topic of sets, don't bring in discussion niche sets just to prove that this Pokemon is broken since it can adapt easily, it's just not a good base to build on since most Pokemon can also run niche sets to defeat other.

8) Don't bring up complex bans they are unneeded and just creates more confusion. Per example if Trick+Choice Item is broken it's not the strategy itself but the user that makes it broken, taking per example Chansey and Meloetta. Chansey will defeat Meloetta even if its tricked if the Meloetta lacks Psyshock but if Meloetta has Psyshock it will be able to defeat Chansey. (Yes we're aware that Z-Detect is a complex ban)

9) If good arguments are made against a Pokemon the Tier Leader has the right to suspect it, we aren't looking for quick banning Pokemon since the community's opinion is valuable and they make the metagame. If a Pokemon didn't get banned due to a suspect don't re-talk about it even if you still think it's broken, we work on majority.
(Note: this may be altered in the future to better suit the community's needs. Don't take it as gospel.)

1v1 Resources:

- Viability Rankings
- Sets VR
- Sample Teams
- Sets Compendium
- Speed Tiers
- 1v1 Old Gens
- 1v1 OMs
- Team Bazaar and Showcase
- Creative & Underrated Sets
- Discussion Thread
- PS 1v1 Room Official Leaderboard Schedule
- 1v1 Tour Circuit
- Can you make me...

1v1 Projects:

- 1v1 Shopfront
- Break My Team
- Community Create-A-Team
- Don't Use This! Use That!
- 1v1 Analyses
- Official Tournaments
- 2v2 Doubles
- Secret Santa (Closed)
- Top 10 Titans of 1v1

Affiliated Rooms and Servers:

- 1v1 Room
- 1v1 Type Challenge Room
- 1v1 Old Gens Room
- 1v1 Discord
- 2v2 Discord

If you wish to host a project or any kind of thread, you must contact me first for permission. Unapproved threads will be deleted.

This thread can be used to ask any questions you have about 1v1. Please be respectful with your questions and avoid asking anything that can be searched easily or isn't directly related to 1v1.
 
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DEG

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Tournaments & Events
The 1v1 tournament scene will be from now on divided into two (2) categories, the first being Official Tournaments, the other being Unofficial Tournaments which will hopefully let the 1v1 community enjoy tournaments containing, current generation, old generation and 1v1 OMs.

Official Tournaments
Winter - 1v1 Winter Seasonal & 1v1 Classic
Spring - 1v1 Spring Seasonal & 1v1 PL
Summer - 1v1 Summer Seasonal & 1v1 LT
Fall - 1v1 Fall Seasonal & Wco1v1

Unofficial Tournaments
To be determined.

Schedule

2017 -
World Cup of 1v1 won by Europe
1v1 Premier League won by dom
1v1 Ladder Tour won by UnleashOurPassion

2018 -
1v1 Classic
won by Joker 1v1
World Cup of 1v1 won by Coastal Europe
1v1 Premier League won by Vivacious Virizions (Osra and TDA)
1v1 Ladder Tour won by Chickenpie2

2019 -
1v1 Classic - On Going
1v1 Premier League - On Going
1v1 Ladder Tournament -
World cup of 1v1 -
 
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Osra

1v1 and I
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Simple question here: Why is Brightpowder allowed? Seems kind of anti-skill anti-fun
Bright Powder is allowed for the same reason it is allowed in any other tier: it simply isn't as effective at cheesing games as other rng-reliant elements like Swagger, OHKO moves, Evasion boosting, or even just missing your regular moves.
 
Is Chansey banned? The blob is mentioned above, but I didn't find it on the VR. On a side note, is there a place I can find a list of banned things and the reasons?
 
Tournaments & Events
The 1v1 tournament scene will be from now on divided into two (2) categories, the first being Official Tournaments, the other being Unofficial Tournaments which will hopefully let the 1v1 community enjoy tournaments containing, current generation, old generation and 1v1 OMs.

Official Tournaments
Winter - 1v1 Winter Seasonal & 1v1 Classic
Spring - 1v1 Spring Seasonal & 1v1 PL
Summer - 1v1 Summer Seasonal & 1v1 LT
Fall - 1v1 Fall Seasonal & Wco1v1

Unofficial Tournaments
To be determined.

Schedule

2017 -
World Cup of 1v1 won by Europe
1v1 Premier League won by dom
1v1 Ladder Tour won by UnleashOurPassion

2018 -
1v1 Classic
won by Joker 1v1
World Cup of 1v1 won by Coastal Europe
1v1 Premier League won by Vivacious Virizions (Osra and TDA)
1v1 Ladder Tour won by Chickenpie2

2019 -
1v1 Classic - On Going
1v1 Premier League - On Going
1v1 Ladder Tournament -
World cup of 1v1 -
U P D A T E
 
NightStriker there are only a few really common scarfers in 1v1, so as long as you're aware of them, you usually wont be caught off guard. Porygon-Z, Landorus, Haxorus, Genesect, Archeops, Dragonite, and Sawk are the really common ones you should know about.
 
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Jocus

Banned deucer.
It's based off 6v6. Repealing species clause could lead to the same Pokemon on one team with different sets, which cannot be told from Team Preview.
 

Alakazam

corrupt auth xd
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Why is species clause in 1v1?
If you’re interested in playing 1v1 w/o species clause, that is possible in ORAS 1v1, for a couple reasons. Primarily, 1v1 wasn’t taken as seriously, but also in gen 7 the advent of z moves created much more unpredictable strategies a Pokemon could utilize in one set, making removing Species Clause again for gen 7 terrible for a prediction-based meta
 

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