usually its around frame 50, at least for me. I may differ from console to console, i am not sure.
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5th Gen PRNG Help / Info - Latest: RNG Reporter 9.96.5, PPRNG 1.15.0
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usually its around frame 50, at least for me. I may differ from console to console, i am not sure.
Checking that makes sure that your search results are all shiny. Instead of just searching for an IV spread, it also searches for a nearby shiny spread using the same seed.
It is impossible for it to be that low, so no.
I still don't get the technical part. What does the Max Shiny Frame do? Can you give me an example.
Say the paticular IV I wan on a certain seed is on Frame 8, and the "Nearby Shiny" is 1. what does that mean? My shiny is on frame 9? or frame 7?
Sorry for this confusion, I have no idea how this work.
Say the paticular IV I wan on a certain seed is on Frame 8, and the "Nearby Shiny" is 1. what does that mean? My shiny is on frame 9? or frame 7?
Sorry for this confusion, I have no idea how this work.
The max shiny frame is the maximum amount you want for the PID. So, for example, if you set the max shiny frame to 300, it won't display any results with a shiny frame (and PID frame) of greater than 300.
If the number in the nearby shiny column is 1, that means PID frame 1 will give you a shiny. Since that's impossible to hit, you can't get that shiny.
(The number in the frame column is your IV frame, and the number in the nearby shiny column is the PID frame that will yield a shiny.)
If the number in the nearby shiny column is 1, that means PID frame 1 will give you a shiny. Since that's impossible to hit, you can't get that shiny.
(The number in the frame column is your IV frame, and the number in the nearby shiny column is the PID frame that will yield a shiny.)
No problem!
It may vary for you, but I've found that starting the game exactly as it hits the correct second (or just a tiny bit before) will give me one timer0 value, while starting the game a little after the correct second starts will give me my other timer0 value. If you can't seem to hit the right timer0 value, try that.
After collecting the egg, fly somewhere with high-levelled Pokemon and catch one. Get its IVs and compare it to the IVs generated in the main window using the same seed you used for breeding the egg. If the caught Pokemon's IVs are somewhere within/near the 14-20 range, you hit your seed.
I'm fairly certain that the PID generation for eggs is different from any of the other methods. You can use it for breeding, but you'll have to plug the seed into the main window and select the breeding results there, because they will be different from the results the time finder gives you.
for my case, I have an offset of 1 second delay. Which means if the seed is at 35seconds, I actually have to start the game at 34seconds. Depends from console to console. You just need to spend sometime to know your DS =)
Thanks for all the help. This seems so complicated, but I'm sure after I finish this first breed it'll be easier. I've found I can pretty easily RNG capture nonshinies, but breeding shinies I can never seem to hit my seed. How do you know what timer0 value you hit because mine seems to fluctuate between C7C and C7B yet I always hit the wrong one.
yeah.. timer0 is really b1tch and tend to screw you up. I once wasted 5 hour trying to breed a shiny, only to realised my timer0 suddenly changes. There is no way to control it. You have to go through the calibration proccess to determine it. There always one timer0 value which you will consistently hit. stick to that one.
EDIT: From what I have read, timer0 value also tend to change if your seeds involves key presses. I always use " 0 keypresses".
Sure, that looks fine.
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Okay, I think RNG Reporter is giving me an incorrect PID for this shiny Tornadus spread. (The PID I'm supposed to get does not match what I actually get.)
Preliminary info:
After verifying my seed and finding the starting PID frame (shown below), I get a starting frame of 712 or 713.
Figuring the starting frame is 712, I subtract that from 1079 to get 367 advances (fully knowing the frame advances can be inconsistent, but I wanted to try that anyway). With 367 advances, I get a Quiet, alert to sounds Tornadus, which matches with frame 1094. Seeing as how that's, what, 15 away from the target, I decide to try frame 350, which gets me a Bashful Tornadus (frame 1064). 355 and 360 give me Bashful as well (1068 and 1071, respectively), and 365 gives me Gentle (1077). All of the characteristics matched with the PID results given in RNG Reporter.
Hoping I get lucky and 356 advances lets me hit my target, I try that and do get a Timid Tornadus... but it's not shiny, and the characteristic doesn't match. I know, I know... The first response would be "then you obviously didn't get the correct starting frame and/or didn't do correct frame advances and/or didn't hit the right seed and/or etc.", but I really don't think that's it considering all the other data I gathered. I also know that this ID/SID combination produces shinies, as I've hatched and caught shinies in this game before.
So... Yeah. I don't know if this has happened to anyone else before, or if it's a common problem or whatever, but it's a little frustrating. I'll try another seed/spread tomorrow after I get some sleep, but any help would be appreciated... and sorry for the long post.
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Okay, I think RNG Reporter is giving me an incorrect PID for this shiny Tornadus spread. (The PID I'm supposed to get does not match what I actually get.)
Preliminary info:
-Version: RNG Reporter 9.81 beta
-Trying to capture: Shiny Tornadus
-Target seed: F36BB7CFDA40F93B
-Target IV frame: 1
-Target PID frame: 1079
-MAC address: 00-1E-A9-AE-45-DF (or 001EA9AE45DF without hyphens)
-I verified the seed by catching a Pokemon and comparing its IVs to the IV list generated in the main window. Every other result (IVs, natures, etc.) also match with the info RNG Reporter gives me.
-Results following this snippet
-Trying to capture: Shiny Tornadus
-Target seed: F36BB7CFDA40F93B
-Target IV frame: 1
-Target PID frame: 1079
-MAC address: 00-1E-A9-AE-45-DF (or 001EA9AE45DF without hyphens)
-I verified the seed by catching a Pokemon and comparing its IVs to the IV list generated in the main window. Every other result (IVs, natures, etc.) also match with the info RNG Reporter gives me.
-Results following this snippet
After verifying my seed and finding the starting PID frame (shown below), I get a starting frame of 712 or 713.
To find the starting PID frame, I ran in the grass on Route 7 and caught a Pokemon immediately after Tornadus flew away. My result was a male Watchog, level 27 (encounter slot 2), Bashful, with the correct IVs (so I know I hit my seed), Keen Eye (ability 1), and "often dozes off" as a characteristic. Using that data, I got some results to check the roamer's starting PID.
So, I catch the Tornadus and get Jolly, alert to sounds, and the right IVs. Using the first result from the Watchog I caught, I figure the starting PID frame has to be less than 751, so I look around there. Frames 712 and 713 seem to be the most likely starting PIDs from the list generated, so I decide to go with 712. (None of the +/- ~5 adjacent later or earlier Jolly results seemed to match with my PID advancements, by the way.)
So, I catch the Tornadus and get Jolly, alert to sounds, and the right IVs. Using the first result from the Watchog I caught, I figure the starting PID frame has to be less than 751, so I look around there. Frames 712 and 713 seem to be the most likely starting PIDs from the list generated, so I decide to go with 712. (None of the +/- ~5 adjacent later or earlier Jolly results seemed to match with my PID advancements, by the way.)
Figuring the starting frame is 712, I subtract that from 1079 to get 367 advances (fully knowing the frame advances can be inconsistent, but I wanted to try that anyway). With 367 advances, I get a Quiet, alert to sounds Tornadus, which matches with frame 1094. Seeing as how that's, what, 15 away from the target, I decide to try frame 350, which gets me a Bashful Tornadus (frame 1064). 355 and 360 give me Bashful as well (1068 and 1071, respectively), and 365 gives me Gentle (1077). All of the characteristics matched with the PID results given in RNG Reporter.
Hoping I get lucky and 356 advances lets me hit my target, I try that and do get a Timid Tornadus... but it's not shiny, and the characteristic doesn't match. I know, I know... The first response would be "then you obviously didn't get the correct starting frame and/or didn't do correct frame advances and/or didn't hit the right seed and/or etc.", but I really don't think that's it considering all the other data I gathered. I also know that this ID/SID combination produces shinies, as I've hatched and caught shinies in this game before.
So... Yeah. I don't know if this has happened to anyone else before, or if it's a common problem or whatever, but it's a little frustrating. I'll try another seed/spread tomorrow after I get some sleep, but any help would be appreciated... and sorry for the long post.
alright, so I've been at this for a while and I finally hit my seed and got an SSF of 49. So since I'm trying to hit frame 129 I did 81 chatters. I know I hit my seed because I flew to Victory Road, caught a pokemon and checked its IVs (that process). When I hatched it, it had a 31 in everything but special attack (found out from IV judge) but wasn't shiny.
Is there another step I need to do, or did I just chatter incorrectly?
Is there another step I need to do, or did I just chatter incorrectly?
I'd like to clafirfy I have this right. I'm going to ID abuse my Black :)
Here's all my steps, including some pictures:
1. Find a suitable frame 1 seed for Method 5. This only effects the IVs, nothing else.
2. Find a PID for that seed with a nature/ability/encounter slot it want. Also, keep this frame low, below 70 to make it easy to get every time. By picking "Synchronize Frame Only", I can leave myself a 50/50 chance of being able to Synchronize. This will allow me to "choose" the nature of the pokemon I battle.
3. Find an ID combo that will give a shiny on that seed and frame.
4. Verify that those IDs will produce a shiny on the desired frame/seed.
With this, I can easily and repeably hit my seed, and my PID, and get the same results over and over again.
If any of that is wrong, please point it out to me :)
Also, how does this affect eggs? Aren't they starting on frame 8, so if I want to be able to hatch AND catch perfect shiny pokemon with ease, shouldn't I try and find a frame 8 good IVs seed, and then get the PID form there? Will the "Synchronize Frames Only" also affect the passing down a natures for eggs?
Hope I've got this understood, thanks for any help,
Joseph Duffy
Is all this right?
I'm 99% sure I've got the method nailed down now, but is it realistic to try and RNG my IDs to make Capture and Eggs easier?
Does IDs even affect Egg Shiny/IVs? On the tab in time finder, it doesn't actually ask for IDs, so I'm assuming my IDs won't affect this?
if your ssf is 49,if you have already minus how much you shifted to and if its 49 you would do 129-49= 80.also how much did you shift it to
I'm trying to RNG my first shiny wild Pokemon, and I wanted to know how many times I have to hear Chatot to get this Pokemon? And where would a good place to do this be? Where no NPCs will mess it up.
4530 - 45 = 4485
I think you should look for another seed unless you want to hear chatot 4485 times :p
Anyway as for the poke I'd say victory road boldore.
Hm...I think you are totally right, I should search for a lower seed. Is there something I can put into RNG reporter to have it search for lower seeds? Like change the "Max results"?
There is a "Max Shiny Frame" box in the upper-right part of the Capture tab in RNG reporter's time finder.
It's set at 300, and I'm getting seeds like in the 65000 frame range. If I lower it to like, 200, I'll get lower seeds?
I see you've got it specifying Adamant in the main screen, but don't have a synchronizer set. Did you search that specific seed with an adamant synchronizer set in the Time Finder? If so, what's probably happening is that there is a shiny PID on that seed under 300, but it's a synchronize frame and not a natural adamant frame and the main screen is not detecting it because you're only asking it to show adamant frames without any synchronizer set.
i chattered once to find my SSF
What nature was your egg?
Also, frame 49 has a bold nature, and so does frame 53. Are you sure it was indeed frame 49? When I do shiny RNG breeding, my SSF is usually around 55~56
AlphaWolf said:
As far as shiny eggs go, I've always been able to find PID frames less than 100, usually 60~80. I didn't abuse my id/sid but maybe it's just coincidence (01809/47179)