5th Gen PRNG Help / Info - Latest: RNG Reporter 9.96.5, PPRNG 1.15.0

You can reuse the seed as many times as you like.

How were the results different? Did you get the right IVs/nature but a male this time? If not, was the Riolu in the same slot as the Sigilyph you just rng'd?
Wrong IVs and wrong nature. Yeap, the Riolu was in the first slot....

I'm going to try again, maybe that was a fluke or something...
 

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Wrong IVs and wrong nature. Yeap, the Riolu was in the first slot....

I'm going to try again, maybe that was a fluke or something...
The gender ratio of the target shouldn't change anything (assuming it still has a gender), so the results shouldn't have been any different (except that it might be male). Are you positive you hit the correct seed and did 4 advances? If so, what IVs/nature did you get?
 
The gender ratio of the target shouldn't change anything (assuming it still has a gender), so the results shouldn't have been any different (except that it might be male). Are you positive you hit the correct seed and did 4 advances? If so, what IVs/nature did you get?
Tried again - still no :( This time I tried with a drifloon. Both times I got "average" stats. I forget the natures I got, sorry >.<;;; EDIT: It was Rash, but I also got a Jolly, so I IV checked the Jolly one, and it only had 1 31 IV. EDIT: Checked the Rash one - it has 2 31 IVs.

I didn't put in any gender ratio information in the RNG Reporter (aside from that it has a gender) - shouldn't I then get the same results with a 50/50 ratio as with a 87.5/12.5 ratio?

I advanced 6 times the last try - would that have affected the outcome?
 
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Tried again - still no :( This time I tried with a drifloon. Both times I got "average" stats. I forget the natures I got, sorry >.<;;; EDIT: It was Rash, but I also got a Jolly, so I IV checked the Jolly one, and it only had 1 31 IV.

I didn't put in any gender ratio information in the RNG Reporter (aside from that it has a gender) - shouldn't I then get the same results with a 50/50 ratio as with a 87.5/12.5 ratio?

I advanced 6 times the last try - would that have affected the outcome?
You should get the same IVs/nature with the different gender ratios, but the gender itself may be different.

Changing the number of advances does change the outcome. So if you want a Jolly 5IV Pokemon with this seed, you have to do 4 advances. A different number would result in different IVs and natures.

edit: the Pokemon also has to be in the first slot for this seed.
 
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You should get the same IVs/nature with the different gender ratios, but the gender itself may be different.

Changing the number of advances does change the outcome. So if you want a Jolly 5IV Pokemon with this seed, you have to do 4 advances. A different number would result in different IVs and natures.

OH!!!!! XD Let me try again then :D
 

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YES!!! It worked! :D

I had thought the number of advancements didn't matter XD

YAY! Again, THANK YOU :D :D :D
You're welcome ^_^

Essentially, the frame determines what you get. When you do the advancements, you are advancing the frame...meaning you are changing info of the Pokemon you will receive. The seed basically just determines what frames you have available to you. So even if you get the right seed, if you do the wrong number of advancements, you'll land on the wrong frame and won't get your desired Pokemon.
 
You're welcome ^_^

Essentially, the frame determines what you get. When you do the advancements, you are advancing the frame...meaning you are changing info of the Pokemon you will receive. The seed basically just determines what frames you have available to you. So even if you get the right seed, if you do the wrong number of advancements, you'll land on the wrong frame and won't get your desired Pokemon.
OMG PokemonSlots is your site?? :O

I just successfully RNG'd a jolly Tornadus and a timid, hp:ice Thunderous with help from those calcs!! :D
 

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Does anyone know if one can reorder the regular pokes in the slots or, in the alternative, rng pokes in slots 4 through 6?
The Pokemon cannot be reordered, but you can swap out one of the six for a new Pokemon you catch. Slots 4-6 are RNG'd in the same way as the others, but require you to look for higher frames to account for the frame advancements the additional Pokemon cause. For example, each Pokemon causes the IV frame to be advanced by 13, so a slot 6 Pokemon can't have an IV frame lower than 73. Using an IV frame of 73 assumes no checks to verify your seed...which is a bad idea.

The calculators have catches built in, so if your frame is too low to be possible, it will let you know.
 

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How do I search for seeds for entralink mons in B/W2? Do I select standard seed and pick stationary?
I do not have PPRNG.
Yup, standard seed, stationary encounter (starting IV frame of 25). The basics of the PPRNG guide apply, so it's still usable for the procedure (although I don't think the first 3 frames skipped thing applies).
 
Hi, I've been unsuccessful at RNG abusing after several attempts over the course of several months and I have no clue what's going wrong.I'm using version 9.96.6 Alpha. No matter what I've tried, I can't hit my seeds. Here's what I did on my most recent attempt. I'm using White 2 on a DS Lite.
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1. Did RNG calibration using Unova Link method. Because I used a camera to record the arrow spins I can confirm that this isn't the issue. Took me three times to get this due mostly to human error.
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2. Tried to abuse using that information for a perfect Ditto using a spread I found in Time Finder. I can't recall all of the exact details as this was last month, but I would start the game at the right time and then I would perform the amount of Chatot flips I needed via counting them out. This failed, decided to try for the Volcarona in the Relic Castle.
3. Made several attempts to abuse for the Volcarona using both Time Finder seeds and ones in the default search function. Since to my knowledge the initial frame a game starts on is one and that was the amount of frames required in the box, I tried a few times by clicking 'rona, and some times I did one Chatter. I did this quite a few times and never got it. Interestingly, in a lot of the attempts I was getting Volcarona with at least one perfect IV, but I've yet to get one with the full 31/0/31/31/31/31 that I've been looking for. If it helps I can provide a screenshot of at least one of the spreads I used.

I'm absolutely baffled as to what I'm doing wrong here. One thing that I've wondered is that my DS itself is broken and years ago the L button got glued down by accident during the efforts to fix it. To my knowledge, the button is defunct, as I've never really had any incidents during play that suggested the game thought it was being pressed, but maybe it's counting as a button press? Aside from that I have no clue what's going on. As I would really like to be able to RNG abuse in both BW/BW2 and the fourth gen games but have had no luck, I would really appreciate it if someone would help me get to the bottom of this. Also, as a side note, where would I be able to ask for help with the fourth gen games for RNG reporter?
 

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The parameters in the Unova Link (UL) Calibration window seem plausible, so that's a good start. The problem is that your Timer0 frequently fluctuates, so you need to go through the process of using the UL tool several times to find your most common Timer0. I wouldn't try to hit any seeds or do anything else before you have done this. Once you find your parameters, enter them into your profile (your current one has too broad of a Timer0 range, and the VFrame doesn't match what you got in the UL tool).

You probably aren't hitting your seed because of the Timer0 changing on you (as well as not searching with the correct information for the Vframe). There is no way to control it; that's why you have to find your most common one and find seeds that use it.

The IVRNG starts on frame 1 for wild/stationary Pokemon. The PIDRNG (the one you change by using chatot) initial frame varies with the seed, usually being around 40-60. You find out the actual number by pasting your seed into the main window and pressing the "calculate initial PIDRNG frame" button.

I'm really not sure how the game would respond if L was constantly held down. As for checking, I guess you could run searches assuming the button is pressed and is not, then comparing the results. Whichever ones seem more plausible (or gives you the results you are getting) would determine whether its working. Your results seem about right in the UL tool, so it seems like it might be broken/not registering. Plus running a search assuming the button is pressed does not return any results, supporting that theory.

If you have access to BW, I'd recommend starting in that rather than W2. There's much less Timer0 trolling, so it would help you get a better grasp of what's going on...as well as being considerably less annoying. All 3rd or 4th gen RNG questions should be directed to the Most Gen Help Thread :)
 
I need some help with pprng entralink. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong or how to go about. It mostly concerns zomg timer calibration, kinda stuck on it.

C-gear seed: f1e99c43
2015/5/28 1:49:52
Frame 21

Actual delay 13200
Subtracted 296 for 12904
Subtracted 5 secs for target second 47
I put those numbers in zomgtimer

It says I'm off 4 minutes but shouldn't it be 3 minutes? I'm kinda confused. Tried using the guide but I'm not sure what I'm doing. First time doing entralink pprng.

Mac 00-16-56-e8-68-a4
Pokemon black tid 43625
C7b 60 6
C7c 60 6
Ds lite
 

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The delay increases by ~60 per second. So for a delay of 12904, that requires about 215 seconds, or ~3.6 minutes. Add in the time you have to wait for setting your DS time to make sure everything lines up, and you have 4 minutes before your target. If you had 3 minutes before your target, then you would still have those 0.6 minutes left over.

When the first timer ends, either boot the game from the DS menu or SR. When the second timer ends, push A at the "[you] warped to the Entralink" screen. Since you're aiming for frame 21, you can just interact the Pokemon and check it's IVs to see what delay you got. If it's wrong, then you can update the timer and repeat.
 
Would it be a problem if the Pokemon is way in the deep parts of the forest? How would I go about moving it to the first parts of the forest? Or does it not matter? There are no wnpcs around and it is just one Pokemon. Do I also need to do chatot pitches for the standard seed first?
 

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Would it be a problem if the Pokemon is way in the deep parts of the forest? How would I go about moving it to the first parts of the forest? Or does it not matter? There are no wnpcs around and it is just one Pokemon. Do I also need to do chatot pitches for the standard seed first?
It shouldn't matter, but the extra steps you take to get there might trip the 128-step counter. You move them back there by saying no to catch them, so maybe there's a similar mechanic to move them back? My memory is a bit rusty (and it doesn't help that I'm really tired haha). Anyway, if you can't move it, then it's not a problem. If you happen to trip the step counter, then just run around some then resave. Then go through the RNG process.

The Chatots are just used to determine if you hit your seed, or missed it because of wrong seconds or got the wrong Timer0. It's certainly helpful since it provides you with more info, but it doesn't make-or-break the process. I'd recommend it though.

edit: if you meant do I do the Chatots before doing anything else (i.e. warping to the entralink), then yes.
 
Thanks for your help, I appreciate it. So if the standard seed requires 41 chatot chatters to move the frame, I do that so I can hit the standard seed frame right? Then I can just wait for the timer beep? Do I have enough time to do the chatot pitches you think? And when do I do the chattot chatters, is it after the 1st beep, waiting for the 2nd beep? I'm sorry for asking too many questions, i know you're tired but thank you so much!
 
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Thanks for your help, I appreciate it. So if the standard seed requires 41 chatot chatters to move the frame, I do that so I can hit the standard seed frame right? Then I can just wait for the timer beep? Do I have enough time to do the chatot pitches you think?
No problem :)

The problem is that having the C-gear on advances the PIDRNG (the one you advance with Chatots) by 1 frame in a little over 1 second. So you'll probably have to do fewer than 41. How many fewer will be determined by trail and error. The guide actually has you use a second external timer so you can keep track of the nature. Rather than use Chatots, they just have you wait a different amount of time before interacting with the Pokemon. I think you'd have enough time though, especially since you won't need to do 41 chatters.
 
Oh so that's the 2nd beep that I'm waiting for zomgtimer then? I didn't know that lol. Entralink pprng is so complicated than wondercard and stationary pprng. Thanks for your help. If I have any more questions I'll be back lol!
 

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Oh so that's the 2nd beep that I'm waiting for zomgtimer then? I didn't know that lol. Entralink pprng is so complicated than wondercard and stationary pprng. Thanks for your help. If I have any more questions I'll be back lol!
There are 3 countdowns. 2 are from the Zomgtimer, and the third is from a separate timer. When the first timer on Zomg ends, you boot the game or SR. When the second timer on Zomg ends, you push A at the "Warped to Entralink!" screen. When the third one ends (the other external timer for the nature), you interact with the Pokemon. It's definitely more complicated haha.

You're welcome! Good luck ^_^
 

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Wait, where do I get the external timer?
I'm not familiar with Zomgtimer, but you might be able to just use a second instance of that for your external timer. Try looking in the other modes to see if there is one where you can just enter your target seconds. If there is, then you can enter in the time you have to wait for your nature.

If there's not, then see if there is a 3rd gen/emerald mode (there should just be a field to enter your target frame...and possibly a "time before reset" field or something similar. Just set that field to 0 if present). To use it in this mode, take the time you have to wait for your nature and convert it to seconds. Then multiply it by 60, and that's your target "frame." That should create a timer close enough to what you need. If you want to change the timer in this case by 1 second, remember you change the frame by 60. Bit of a workaround, but it should work.

edit: Your frame has to be a whole number, so you might have to round. Or you know, you could just try to find another timer haha
 

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