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NOC Animal Mafia ~Game Over~
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Request extension please
That would be a godsend.
That would be a godsend.
I could care less about extend/no extend personally since im p set on who i want today. But extend pls since it'll help proph and hitmonleet will have had another day to stop whining about just being subbed in (btw you have had plenty of time to catch up by now Hitmonleet stop using that as an excuse/defense thx)
thirding the request for extension I've just been hella lazy recently but this gives me more time before dl to mull stuff over.
Also MoodyCloud while I would agree that redirector would seem to fit perfectly in a scum team as you describe, do you really think Blazade claims redirector in that case? since after all, claiming redirector on mafia is massively disadvantageous. I'm pretty sure if I was mafia Blazade would have probably just claimed VT.
Also MoodyCloud while I would agree that redirector would seem to fit perfectly in a scum team as you describe, do you really think Blazade claims redirector in that case? since after all, claiming redirector on mafia is massively disadvantageous. I'm pretty sure if I was mafia Blazade would have probably just claimed VT.
this seems like an oversimplification of what people actual think about this game but i guess it's not as unreasonable as i thought
i dunno though at the same time you also don't really provide any interesting insights while saying a lot of words (Eg "scum's already flipped a cop and...could be scum" uhhhh yea that's all true but what we want to know is what you think is the case. are you telling me that's a reasonable thing to happen?" a lot of your posts are framed in a way that hedge a lot and while maybe it's a lot to ask for you to be more confident, i have to agree with proph that ur uncertainty doesn't come off very well and makes it seem like you are ignoring a lot of what is happening in this game.
nah I think aubisio and earlio are much more likely to be a contrast - ascetic only makes sense on town if mafia has a lot of roles and vice versa
Gonna SR this if you actually doesnt make use of the extension
this seems like enough to grant the extension
deadline extended an extra 24 hours to the 14th at 6 PM PST.
deadline extended an extra 24 hours to the 14th at 6 PM PST.
where do i learn how to post like you?
Yeah, now I at least got a general overview of the parts I missed, might still miss some small things, but I've read up quite a bit more now.
Yknow, this gives me a thought: If Aubisio is town, does this indirectly confirm the existence of a persuade, and not some trolling messenger? Tho iirc nobody claimed persuasion this cycle, so it would thus mean Knights was a trolling messenger, and so Aubisio makes literally no sense as Town, and would thus most likely be town, and as such, ought to be lynched. Maybe?
Seriously, thank you for this. I never get told what I'm actually doing badly, and stuff like this honestly helps me improve a lot. I guess I just hedge a lot and play cautiously and reticently because, as town, I don't have much info, and I hate making a decision if I'm not sure of things. On the other hand, if I think I'm sure of things, I obsessively tunnel that belief, even if it turns out wrong. I'll try to step up and push things a bit more.
To start with that...
Aubisio what are your thoughts as to my theorizing about your role? If you disagree, then why? Do you think the "persuade" was/is real, or no?
Err, scratch the Knights bit, I reread and realized I misinterpreted things.
The question is still relevant though: is the persuade real or not? The truth helps to affirm the alignment of Aubisio, so this might be something to ponder over.
Earlio was persuaded/messaged this cycle after I redirected Jalmont to him.
OK, back and ready to rumble.
Going to reread the thread in the next 30 minutes specifically focusing on Knights/XnadrojX interactions.
Going to reread the thread in the next 30 minutes specifically focusing on Knights/XnadrojX interactions.
Possibility that jalmont is persuade. Who were the users that claimed to be persuaded again?
XnadrojX Interaction Analysis
| denotes responding to a quote or a question, or an attack. I'll count other people's posts as well.
- denotes a passive mention. Same w/other people's posts.
Multiple occurrences in the same post are redundant. If a post contains both | and - for the same player, only | is mentioned.
Some | may be demoted to - and vice versa depending on importance.
Texas will be the townie control group. Knights will be the scum control group.
Xnad had one early interaction where he voted Mithril/Texas slot, but that slot is now confirmed town so yeah, not super useful for analysis.
Reading this post makes me think that XnadrojX is trying to whiteknight someone he KNOWS is town (Blazade) in order to score that sweet sweet town cred over defending a buddy. I don't think Xnadroj blatantly defends a buddy like this, especially when he's under pressure as well. I also think that the "I honestly think Blazade is town with the wagon formation" is something that he KNOWS to be true. So I think Former Hope is town from this; what are your thoughts, guys?
Plus Blazade being the only one to actually vote Xnad is a good look on the FH slot. Xnadroj defending Blazade while Blazade is simultaneously scumreading XnadrojX soooort of clears FH in my eyes? Like, there is absolutely no scum coordination/collusion here.
This is such a weird post to analyze, though. He's dismissing Jalmont and Texas and calling them both town, but the way he's townreading Jalmont feels so.. strange. "I want to townread him for being against the tide but I'm afraid of being pocketed, so he's probably town" is such a bizarre way to townread someone. Would he do this to a buddy?
First time EPIK mentions Xnadroj.
I feel like the back and forth between Xnad and EPIK here points towards EPIK town? Unless EPIK is like, super scum mastermind extraordinaire and tried to get some interactions down so he looks good in the end, this feels fairly organic to me.
So conclusions?
I think FH / Moody / EPIK are all probably town. He mentions Durza and Haruno a lot, mostly in the same breath, but never pressures either of them. Never mentions aubisio or really Knights, which means that he probably doesn't interact with his buddies a whole lot. Feels like his team was just trying to get him through the day, trying to have him blatantly advance the scum win condition.
If people could look at Xnad's posts and check my work then that would be greatly appreciated. For now, I think aubisio is probably scum and.. Hitmonleet might be the forth but I'm increasingly being unconvinced on that when I read his posts? I dunno. We have someone deep for sure though.
| denotes responding to a quote or a question, or an attack. I'll count other people's posts as well.
- denotes a passive mention. Same w/other people's posts.
Multiple occurrences in the same post are redundant. If a post contains both | and - for the same player, only | is mentioned.
Some | may be demoted to - and vice versa depending on importance.
Texas will be the townie control group. Knights will be the scum control group.
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Aubis:
Harno: -----
Earlo: -
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Proph: |--
apric: -
Knights: -
Texas: ||||--First relevant Xna post.XnadrojX said:
Reading this post makes me think that XnadrojX is trying to whiteknight someone he KNOWS is town (Blazade) in order to score that sweet sweet town cred over defending a buddy. I don't think Xnadroj blatantly defends a buddy like this, especially when he's under pressure as well. I also think that the "I honestly think Blazade is town with the wagon formation" is something that he KNOWS to be true. So I think Former Hope is town from this; what are your thoughts, guys?
This post also is a good look for Moody for being the first one to actually pressure Xnadroj.
Plus Blazade being the only one to actually vote Xnad is a good look on the FH slot. Xnadroj defending Blazade while Blazade is simultaneously scumreading XnadrojX soooort of clears FH in my eyes? Like, there is absolutely no scum coordination/collusion here.
Does he want his scumbuddy to be replaced?
I don't know how I feel about Jalmont trying to discredit the XnadrojX case; Jalmont can you give me a little more info here as to why you did this? Did you think Xnadroj was town?Jalmont said:
Moody is probably close to confirmed town at this point tbh from interactions unless the scum literally reverse bussed like they did last game.XnadrojX said:
This is such a weird post to analyze, though. He's dismissing Jalmont and Texas and calling them both town, but the way he's townreading Jalmont feels so.. strange. "I want to townread him for being against the tide but I'm afraid of being pocketed, so he's probably town" is such a bizarre way to townread someone. Would he do this to a buddy?
This is a thing.Blazade said:
First time EPIK mentions Xnadroj.
This is Xnadroj's defense against EPIK. Not super sure what to think of it to be honest, I mean, points to EPIK for trying to CFD to Xnad in a way that doesn't ~seem like scum theater I guess?
Hey look, another "I know Blazade is town" indicator.XnadrojX said:
Feels like he's tryyying to reach for any mislynch before he dies?
I feel like the back and forth between Xnad and EPIK here points towards EPIK town? Unless EPIK is like, super scum mastermind extraordinaire and tried to get some interactions down so he looks good in the end, this feels fairly organic to me.
Last post, first time he ever mentions Earlio.
So conclusions?
I think FH / Moody / EPIK are all probably town. He mentions Durza and Haruno a lot, mostly in the same breath, but never pressures either of them. Never mentions aubisio or really Knights, which means that he probably doesn't interact with his buddies a whole lot. Feels like his team was just trying to get him through the day, trying to have him blatantly advance the scum win condition.
If people could look at Xnad's posts and check my work then that would be greatly appreciated. For now, I think aubisio is probably scum and.. Hitmonleet might be the forth but I'm increasingly being unconvinced on that when I read his posts? I dunno. We have someone deep for sure though.
Someone providing thoughts/input on the above would very much be appreciated, I know I haven't been super analytical this game but trying to change that since I finished most of my homework today.
I'll do a similar one for Knights tomorrow.
I'll do a similar one for Knights tomorrow.
no i was trying to protect my scumbuddy from being lynched
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are you paying any attention dude
i mean no problem i am always glad to give constructive improvement (although you should probably ask someone who is good at mafia instead...hehe). there's a balance between being uncertain, and obsessively tunneling. i'm not saying that balance is easy or anything. i personally think it's all about being confident in your reads while also being willing to entertain the thought that you are wrong, but not to that point where you just drop every opinion you have.
sigh
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