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NOC Animal Mafia ~Game Over~

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Gun to my head, epik. But ealrio as a close second. (I want to also reread epik, but if I had to use a vig shot right now, that'd be my choice)

Will answer the other point and expand on this in a bit
Basically, ngl I really dislike these scenarios. When we have this set up and there's the list of people, I know it's my own town game to go back and read too deeply into each person and find some mess up and get paranoid about that person being mafia and then usually end up tunneling a town, getting said town lynched and then getting myself lynched as a result, losing the game. So really for the answer is I do as a player want to look primarily at the mechanical side because at least personally, the mechanical side seems primarily free of biases and paranoia since it focuses primarily on hard data. Which is why my lynch pool has been Proph, Epik and maybe Earlio, because those are the only 3 people I can realistically see fitting into the mechanical side.

Also what happened to your original stance that you didn't want Jalmont in lylo?
Blending that point to this, first part is that it's because Jalmont has calmed down and been less random/spastic. Which is good because I really don't care for wildcards who help or hurt town regardless of their alignment (see: Haruno right now, if he makes it to the final 3 then honestly I'm not sure if he's even reading the game enough to make a good choice, I just would hope he listens to moody). Besides that though, there's also the mechanical side. It would mean that, according to his claim, he 'persuaded' a scum D1. Someone else D2 (did he D2? I forget), D3/D4 or w/e tries to 'persuade' the same scum twice. Then there's also his role conflict with KOC in which they basically have the same role. That said, if I were to have the lynch order be my way. I would still do Vanilla towns > Voyer > Messanger > everyone else (I think this is just Haruno?)

Anyways, I asked epik that question for background as there is something else that came to mind to consider, the original scum team composition. Where I then wrote up way too many paragraphs of analysis, deleted, rewrote and deleted again. Essentially because it felt way too presumptuious in terms of 1. Assuming the mafia team wasn't completely randomized 2. If it wasn't, what MS thought of people, 3. Assuming how the mafia team would be balanced experience wise (ie, in XX/KOC/Aubisio two of those players have lost games before just because they idled and while my gut would say to me that they would likely then have someone else with more experience to have a mafia of 2 possible idlers/2 more active users, frankly that's just speculation and my own opinion) and 4. Some metagaming stuff that got to a point I wasn't comfortable using it. So yay on spending time writing things I just ended up deleting anyways and turning a long post into a short one.
 
"2. This game is created using Metal Sonic™ mafia industrial-standard setup balance protocols. This ensures that:
2b: All Role PMs and other variables are randomized using a standard pseudo-random number generator, ensuring fairness."
Former Hope
 
I'm on mobile so I'll pass on the link part but I'll give you the names. Most recently I was scum in laser tag (the noc right before this) But that was a really short game so I think the time before that was..... ocnoc? That one was a pretty damn long game so it should give you stuff to go on
 
"2. This game is created using Metal Sonic™ mafia industrial-standard setup balance protocols. This ensures that:
2b: All Role PMs and other variables are randomized using a standard pseudo-random number generator, ensuring fairness."
Former Hope
You have no idea how long I spent agonizing over those exact words since they could imply either way. Like "pseudo-random number generator" and "ensuring fairness " ensuring fairness could be making it so that if the scum team looks like it would stand no chance (ie having 4 idlers) rerandomizing could be considered fair. Or someone could consider pure random chance to be fair. Either works and it comes down to the host.

Also I forgot if I said this or if I deleted it. But if it wasn't pure random. Epik and haruno are unlikely scum unless ms considers the one consistantly active scum enough for the team
 
OK I'll try and check those.

WRT the randomization stuff: Every single mafia setup I have ever hosted or has been randed has been done so with random.org. It's basically useless to consider any tampering that could have been done with the rand. Behavior >>>>>>>>>>>>> analyzing stuff like this.
 
Before i go do that i its worth noting i dont see any logic in jalmont doing the persuade memes and coming forth about it as scum. It just seems to me like that'd be putting himself way out there. But maybe in just bad idk anymore
 
I won't have time until later tonight to do the full ISO so if you could check his interactions with flipped scum that'd be great.

Maybe Metal Sonic really hates modgaming after all.
Will do: im making lunch rn so this should give me ample reading time. Prepare for semisporatic quote spamming on the thread.
 
Before i go do that i its worth noting i dont see any logic in jalmont doing the persuade memes and coming forth about it as scum. It just seems to me like that'd be putting himself way out there. But maybe in just bad idk anymore
Keep in mind he didn't willingly come forth about it, he did so after being outed via my redirect
 
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