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This season's shitstorm that people still think is a good show is irozuku look forward to the inevitable dumpster fire that the last few eps will be
I can't tell if I'm just really tired of teenage melodrama shows or if... it's actually super boring... seems like it's the latter..

This season has been so... mediocre. Seemed like it would be okay but then we have disappointments like Irozuku and insults like SAO and the bunny girl show where's all the good shit
 
I can't tell if I'm just really tired of teenage melodrama shows or if... it's actually super boring... seems like it's the latter..

This season has been so... mediocre. Seemed like it would be okay but then we have disappointments like Irozuku and insults like SAO and the bunny girl show where's all the good shit
 
I can't tell if I'm just really tired of teenage melodrama shows or if... it's actually super boring... seems like it's the latter..

This season has been so... mediocre. Seemed like it would be okay but then we have disappointments like Irozuku and insults like SAO and the bunny girl show where's all the good shit
Irozuku is so fucking dumb and directionless that for the past 4 or so eps I had to check back to make sure I wasn’t missing one because I legit couldn’t tell if anything had happened or not, even the big reveal that she’s from the past has literally no impact on the main cast, it’s the skeleton of a teen drama but with no meat the whole magic of the show is an excuse for the time travel aspect and presented as this whole thematic hook but has so little impact on the world and story that if magic isn’t explicitly being mentioned I forget it’s in the show. The colourblindness drama is dumb too and I can’t remember the name but I’m certain I’ve seen the colours fading from the world plot at least 10 other times it’s such tired and lazy symbolism.

This show pisses me off in the same way phantom world in that it’s a show with obviously high production value that sucks ass but at least phantom world was hilariously shameless and trash irozuku is just boredom and disappointment.

Bunny girl can’t decide whether it’s shit or good but the latest arc was awful with the resolution being “but I do love you” that made me wonder if maeda is on staff. Kaede is a piece of shit and I can almost hearing the writer praising himself for being subversive and writing deep emotional characters while making imoutos and idol trash characters the protoganists.

Watch zombie land saga and hinomaruzumou and if you want moe trash vampire next door, they’re the shows of the season
 

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I mean, Gridman’s okay, once they explained what was up with Akane by use of a random and so far irrelevant character literally just showing up and infodumping you kinda knew almost everything that’s gonna happen. I hope I’m wrong but it hasn’t really been interesting for me since then other than not outwardly being bad and it has okay visuals

Watch zombie land saga and hinomaruzumou and if you want moe trash vampire next door, they’re the shows of the season
i’ve been trying to get people to watch idol shows for literal years and everyone refuses until this random ass zombie idol show appears???

re: bunny girl, I just can’t get over how unrealistic the characters are, not even the whole puberty syndrome thing, that’s fine, but it’s just full of scenes of characters infodumping and explaining their feelings which Makes Sense because teenagers are totally able to analyze themselves and their lives on Deep Emotional Levels that make Perfect Sense to those around!! i’m just reminded of oregairu and cringe every time. I would rather see a show where the girls figure out their own solutions rather than meeting some really boring dude who can perfectly analyze their lives and solve all their problems

I thought puberty syndrome was gonna be another way of exploring the whole chuunibyou idea how teenagers think they’re important and have special powers which could have been interesting but from what I saw it seemed to be quite literal?
 

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Looks like everything ending this year is over now. What was everybody’s AOTSs? AOTY? Favorite anime they watched this year that didn’t air this year?

I feel like we had some good stuff this year, but nothing really as powerful that stuck around for me as Made in Abyss or Houseki no Kuni did for me, but I want to hear everyone else’s thoughts!
 
double posting if that’s alright

Looks like everything ending this year is over now. What was everybody’s AOTSs? AOTY? Favorite anime they watched this year that didn’t air this year?

I feel like we had some good stuff this year, but nothing really as powerful that stuck around for me as Made in Abyss or Houseki no Kuni did for me, but I want to hear everyone else’s thoughts!
Hataraku Saibou without a doubt, the show lacked polish here and there but the concept of anime cells fighting off disease in shounen battle style is too good to pass up. Crazy levels of scientific accuracy, brilliant metaphors, super entertaining characters and a mad soundtrack come together to make a show that I've already re-watched thrice and I will surely remember as a classic.
 

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aoty is Lupin III: Part V for me, and the only thing that comes close is SSSS.GRIDMAN

this was definitely my least active livewatching year but both these shows blew me away in one way or another
 
Hinamatsuri for AOTY, it's nice to have something to fill the Konosuba-shaped hole in my heart

honorable mentions to GGO, Horse Girls, Demon Lord, Comic Girls, Yuru Camp, and Saiki s2. Probably some stuff from Fall as well because I've barely been able to watch anything lately
 

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I've seen 2-3 anime this year depending on whether you count Mo Dao Zu Shi, so I don't have the most informed opinion, but if I saw a fourth or fifth show, I think the odds are unlikely that they would be better than Devilman Crybaby. It's weird how much weebs have slept on Crybaby in spite of the fact that it's Yuasa. You're supposed to worship the ground he walks on, and he's been on fire all year.

If we're including movies, then AOTY is definitely Maquia and I'm not gonna be convinced otherwise.
 

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As a fan of favourites lists I couldn't miss the opportunity to chip in with my personal AOTS picks, so here they are:
Winter: Hugtto Precure
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Spring: Uma Musume Pretty Derby
I was initially harsh on this show, dropping it while it was still airing but upon revisiting it thanks to several recommendations I actually found myself having a lot of fun. This definitely isn't the kind of show I would recommend to everybody but for me to be as emotionally invested as I was in the races and spe-chan's growth as both a racer and a character is, I believe, a testament to the show's quality.

edit: accidentally omitted this since I wrote this post on low sleep but the show also has some fantastic attention to detail which made the world feel actually lived in. glad i picked this one back up.

Summer: Yama no Susume Third Season
In an age full of appallingly low-effort CGDCT shows like Hinako Note and Pan de Peace it's nice to see shows like Yama no Susume that try to convey a meaningful message to the audience (in this case: go outside and make some friends you stupid bitch). It also helps that this is accompanied by some great visual direction from Yuusuke Yamamoto who most of you would probably know from Welcome to the NHK, and all this in bite sized 13 minute episodes full of enough warm and wholesome goodness to melt even the coldest heart.

Fall: SSSS.Gridman
Gridman is pretty badass. I was initially pretty worried about whether I would enjoy the show but ended up being pleasantly surprised. I found out after finishing Gridman that it was written by Keiichi Hasegawa, a prominent screenwriter on both toku and mecha who had also worked under Chiaki Konaka quite a bit so that might have had something to do with my enjoyment. All in all pretty good but I was pretty disappointed to learn that Borr was actually a guy so I'm docking points for that.

I've seen 2-3 anime this year depending on whether you count Mo Dao Zu Shi, so I don't have the most informed opinion, but if I saw a fourth or fifth show, I think the odds are unlikely that they would be better than Devilman Crybaby. It's weird how much weebs have slept on Crybaby in spite of the fact that it's Yuasa. You're supposed to worship the ground he walks on, and he's been on fire all year.

If we're including movies, then AOTY is definitely Maquia and I'm not gonna be convinced otherwise.
I don't like this post. No sir, not at all.
 
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I've finally finished all of Legend of the Galactic Heroes. It's actually a lot like Death Note in that the first half is about two personalities squaring off, the story naturally concludes, and then it meanders on for the same amount of time with no real story goal. But in season 4 we get some really forced conflicts. Terraism is a fucking joke, possibly the most anticlimactic story element in anime.

Is Mo Dao Zu Shi anime? It's on MAL and that's why I watched it, so that's why I'm writing about it. I imagine for a lot of people, watching this was like watching anime for the first time again. It is nuts. People sword fight for no reason. There's a lot of fast action. Lots of characters that all look the same. I was really didn't want to mistake this for being cool just because it was new and weird like I did with Tenchi Muyo when I was a young lad. But nah this show is fucking awesome. It's like they smashed all the most popular American TV shows together with Romance of the Three Kingdoms. The downside of this show is that the first season is entirely backstory, and from the looks of it, the backstory isn't even finished yet.

Remember when I said that Gintama episodes should be really short? The Disastrous Life of Saiki K illustrates this perfectly. It's a complete opposite in terms of quality, which is to say that it's delightful. Consistently funny comedy with a lot of energy derived from its fast pace. Even lesser episodes that are just one joke have the dignity to still be only four minutes long.

So I've finished the Monogatari series. Well, until I see the movie that just came out. But I think it's still correct to say I've "finished" the series, as season 3 spent like seven storylines building up to a finale. That got pretty fucking tiring to be honest. Starting with Tsukimonogatari (which doesn't feel like it should be its own show, but them's the perils of adapting this light novel series), then onto Owarimonogatari Part I, which spends like three storylines on this stuff about Sodachi, a girl with no supernatural problems at all, and you're left wondering, what was the fucking point of that? But before you can find out, there's Koyomimonogatari, a slice of life show that at least has the decency to be only 12 minutes per episode. So you can skip that one right? Nah, cause it kills off the main character. Sorry if that's a spoiler, at this point you'd have already seen Hanamonogatari, so you know there's actually no stakes at all and everyone lives happily ever after. Then there's Owarimonogatari Part II... look, I already said this series riffed on the works of Kinoku Nasu and that that's okay because it also adds its own thing most of the time, but my fucking god was I floored by how much the actual series ending rips off the ending to Tsukihime (in case you didn't know, Monogatari also shares the basic premise). When the penultimate episode ended and Koyomi was like "the twist is such and such" I audibly was like motherfucker. So that's Monogatari series. It has a lot of style. The substance is very hit or miss. Good during season two. Kind of a mess otherwise.

Watching these other great shows, I understand just how much I was giving a pass to Natsume's Book of Friendship is Magic. What a lame show. I don't even understand who it's for. It is too laid-back for kids not to be bored by it, but too FRIENDSHIP for adults.

Also weird that I watched three shows in December starring shit-stain Shinji Matou as protagonists.
 
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Watching these other great shows, I understand just how much I was giving a pass to Natsume's Book of Friendship is Magic. What a lame show. I don't even understand who it's for. It is too laid-back for kids not to be bored by it, but too FRIENDSHIP for adults.
Natsume is targeted at young women but it still has a fairly decent male fanbase IIRC. Usually people who dislike it enjoy Mushishi and vice versa I've found.
 
oh yeah, I forgot about Devilman Crybaby being this year since I mentally sort stuff by which season it aired in and it wasn't seasonal. Definitely one of the best of the year.

So I've finished the Monogatari series. Well, until I see the movie that just came out. But I think it's still correct to say I've "finished" the series, as season 3 spent like seven storylines building up to a finale. That got pretty fucking tiring to be honest. Starting with Tsukimonogatari (which doesn't feel like it should be its own show, but them's the perils of adapting this light novel series), then onto Owarimonogatari Part I, which spends like three storylines on this stuff about Sodachi, a girl with no supernatural problems at all, and you're left wondering, what was the fucking point of that? But before you can find out, there's Koyomimonogatari, a slice of life show that at least has the decency to be only 12 minutes per episode. So you can skip that one right? Nah, cause it kills off the main character. Sorry if that's a spoiler, at this point you'd have already seen Hanamonogatari, so you know there's actually no stakes at all and everyone lives happily ever after. Then there's Owarimonogatari Part II... look, I already said this series riffed on the works of Kinoku Nasu and that that's okay because it also adds its own thing most of the time, but my fucking god was I floored by how much the actual series ending rips off the ending to Tsukihime (in case you didn't know, Monogatari also shares the basic premise). When the penultimate episode ended and Koyomi was like "the twist is such and such" I audibly was like motherfucker. So that's Monogatari series. It has a lot of style. The substance is very hit or miss. Good during season two. Kind of a mess otherwise.
wait what

it's been a long, long time since I read Tsukihime and I'm having a surprisingly difficult time finding a decent plot summary but I don't remember it being anything like Monogatari outside of the surface level setup (high school guy with harem, supernatural stuff and vampires are heavily involved). In particular the final twist where
the villain is the manifestation of Araragi's inability to move beyond his adolescence
is nothing like anything I remember in Tsukihime.

Tsukihime probably does need that remake, but it was announced more than 10 years ago now, and Mahoyo was supposed to be the first of a trilogy, was delayed two years, and now it's been six years since it came out and no word on a sequel...I think Nasu is just content to ride the FGO gravy train at this point.
 

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I was pretty sure this would warrant a follow up, but I wasn't gonna rant or anything.

Disclaimer: I don't think Tsukihime is that good, partly cause I read Fate first, partly cause it rips off Hellsing an awful lot. Monogatari doesn't have the Hellsing stuff unless you count vampires. But it starts with a loner protagonist meeting a special "progenitor" vampire who has just been almost killed and has to form a pact with her to deal with threats that she herself cannot in her current state. Then it ends with exactly what you had in hide tags. And for good measure, it even throws in a lesson at the end "you can't help others without helping yourself first" hmmmmmmmmm

I still remember what she said before, that I was a fool with no self-preservation. She had a point too. It's beyond arrogant for someone who can't think of themselves to think they can help others. That offers nothing more than contention, an uneasy happiness for the other person. No one is more important than yourself. Someone who values themselves and can become happy could probably share that happiness with others.
Now between the beginning and the end there's a lot of original stuff and those are the best parts, but the ending was really silly to me.

It also came out in 2006 when urban fantasy was blowing up due to the popularity of FSN (Magical Index is ridiculously blatant in its wholesale theft of the nasuverse as a setting, but that has a bad writer so there you go) and stylistically its somewhat similar to Nasu's writing (arguably better but also definitely too self-obsessed). And while Nasu is heavily inspired by classic literature, Monogatari heavily cribs from arthouse cinema (if you don't believe me, just watch Pierrot le Fou), which is absolutely fine. It just seems like he planned out the beginning and end to Monogatari back in 2006 and probably should have gone with a different ending as the books became their own thing.

EDIT: Somehow I've forgotten the most important critiques
Season 3 of Monogatari has no noteworthy OPs to speak of. I mean really, OPs were 80% of the reason to watch the show
But the biggest thing......... Koyomi and Hitagi NEVER FUCK. Even SAO got that right. You can't have a story where characters talk about sex all the time and the writer is a terrible pervert and then pull this shit where in six months two teenagers never fuck. Like, have it happen off screen, but it's not believable. You usually have this kind of thing where a show is sexualized but the protagonist doesn't get laid because you're indirectly selling sex to a younger audience (which is a shitty trend) but Monogatari seemed much more mature than that. For fuck's sake even Shirou gets laid and he's a sex negative prude who was taught by his bull dike guardian that all men are rapists, but Koyomi gets squeamish holding hands with anyone older than 10 (and then it's not in an innocent way).
 
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@ aots/y. I didn't really watch seasonals prior to this past one, Fall, and the best way to describe it would be disappointment. Everything I watched that aired and finished I rated a 6 or lower or just straight up dropped. Pretty much every show just went downhill from the start, except for Slime which is incredibly slow but not bad. Bunny Girl could've been salvageable if they didn't give the best girl 1 minute total of airing time after her arc ended, but even then I can only take so much Laplace's Demon and Schrödinger's cat. If I wasn't watching stuff with friends I'd have dropped even more than I did lol

Prior to fall, I watched 4 eps of Violet Evergarden, got bored, didn't feel like watching it again. Might try it again but minimal interest beyond it being pretty. AoT S3 had like, two of the best episodes ever in the series but aside from that it was definitely the worst season so far. Aside from that, only been watching this from years prior. hibike, houseki no kuni, clannad, blend s, higurashi, haruhi, etc. Very satisfied with all of them.

Season 3 of Monogatari has no noteworthy OPs to speak of.
idk what you mean by "season 3" but I really hope you don't mean Monogatari Series: Second Season because it has the two of the best openings in the series and two of my favorite openings ever. Mousou♡Express and Kogarashi Sentiment are absolutely fantastic and are top five in the series. Apparently, r/araragi did a strawpoll for best Monogatari opening two years ago and both are top five. I have no idea what else you could mean by Season 3 unless you're talking about Nekomonogatari in which case there's only one opening.


But the biggest thing......... Koyomi and Hitagi NEVER FUCK. Even SAO got that right. You can't have a story where characters talk about sex all the time and the writer is a terrible pervert and then pull this shit where in six months two teenagers never fuck.
I've hated on anime for some pretty dumb reasons myself before, but this is so absurd that I'm baffled. I don't know if you simply didn't get it or if you wanted to see it, but it's implied multiple times that they did do it. But I still don't understand how this is a detriment in the first place. Like yeah, the series has a lot of perverted aspects, jokes, talk, etc but did you expect to either see them going at it or see Koyomi to brag to other characters about hitting it? I seriously cannot imagine a scenario where it's spelled out or even implied more than it already is and still fit in the series.
 

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So why in the world would I be talking about Season 2 when I said Season 3? Shaft calls Tsuki-Owari 2 "final season" but it's the season after two, so...

I've hated on anime for some pretty dumb reasons myself before, but this is so absurd that I'm baffled. I don't know if you simply didn't get it or if you wanted to see it, but it's implied multiple times that they did do it. But I still don't understand how this is a detriment in the first place. Like yeah, the series has a lot of perverted aspects, jokes, talk, etc but did you expect to either see them going at it or see Koyomi to brag to other characters about hitting it? I seriously cannot imagine a scenario where it's spelled out or even implied more than it already is and still fit in the series.
Alright you got me. I forgot about Tsukimonogatari (I've probably forgotten a lot of things from Tsuki-Owari 2 in the month I watched them).
 
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So I've been wanting to catch up on the stuff I missed from last year (I only watched Dagashi Kashi S2 and Zombieland Saga. Oh, and that sequel to fucking One Room).

To start things off in a more peaceful mood, I started off with Yuru Camp. 1st episode was pretty good. Shimarin is my spirit animal (seemingly at least).

On the side I've also been watching some of the first season of Aria the Animation. Provided it remains consistent it'll likely end up pretty high ranking in my list. And not to mention I generally heard it gets far better later on in Natural and Origination.
 

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Look bud I got that she talks about sex all the fucking time (I brought it up). But then on numerous occasions she cops out and it becomes about Koyomi having difficulty with basic shit like holding hands and proper names. I stand by how this weird disconnect makes the show never really sexual, but made by a pervert for perverts (a hard stance to argue against when in the NEXT episode he almost fucks his middle school sister). I never argued that the show is wholesome, but it's so much disturbingly less wholesome for spending so much time having Koyomi sexualize and molest elementary schoolers rather than ever putting the spot light on his actual sex life.
 

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I think “okay” is a good way to describe the stuff that aired this year.... I thought that I really liked yuru camp at least but looking back I definitely thought it had aired 2017 or earlier because everything I watched last year left more of an impression on me than it did. Most of the stuff I finished and liked wasn’t anything I would recommend to others (Mitsuboshi Colors, Takagi-san, Tada-kun, Comic Girls...). Maybe an exception being the new Cardcaptor, it was light and cute.

I think my favorite thing I managed to watch this year was 3-gatsu no Lion! Will eventually get around to season2. also Lemonade I think you told me to watch seirei no moribito like five years ago and I managed to finish that too lol
 

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i cant believe they are remaking boogiepop phantom. the original show is one of the biggest brain anime of all time and im really worried that its gonna lose a lot of its weirdness
 
I think “okay” is a good way to describe the stuff that aired this year.... I thought that I really liked yuru camp at least but looking back I definitely thought it had aired 2017 or earlier because everything I watched last year left more of an impression on me than it did. Most of the stuff I finished and liked wasn’t anything I would recommend to others (Mitsuboshi Colors, Takagi-san, Tada-kun, Comic Girls...). Maybe an exception being the new Cardcaptor, it was light and cute.

I think my favorite thing I managed to watch this year was 3-gatsu no Lion! Will eventually get around to season2. also Lemonade I think you told me to watch seirei no moribito like five years ago and I managed to finish that too lol
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On the side I've also been watching some of the first season of Aria the Animation. Provided it remains consistent it'll likely end up pretty high ranking in my list. And not to mention I generally heard it gets far better later on in Natural and Origination.
Natural is where it kinda loses some steam and has a couple weak episodes imo but Origination turns it around and has a super strong finish for a SoL show, I really liked it overall.

I was pretty sure this would warrant a follow up, but I wasn't gonna rant or anything.

Disclaimer: I don't think Tsukihime is that good, partly cause I read Fate first, partly cause it rips off Hellsing an awful lot. Monogatari doesn't have the Hellsing stuff unless you count vampires. But it starts with a loner protagonist meeting a special "progenitor" vampire who has just been almost killed and has to form a pact with her to deal with threats that she herself cannot in her current state. Then it ends with exactly what you had in hide tags. And for good measure, it even throws in a lesson at the end "you can't help others without helping yourself first" hmmmmmmmmm
Huh, I must have forgotten more about Tsukihime than I thought then
 

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i cant believe they are remaking boogiepop phantom. the original show is one of the biggest brain anime of all time and im really worried that its gonna lose a lot of its weirdness
just finished the first three episodes and read the first light novel (which adapts into the first three episodes). I definitely liked it a lot better as a novel because it was way easier to keep track of the time passing through different perspectives and it was easier to keep track of all the names (when I first watched episode 1 without having read the LN, it was harder to keep track of who everyone was). I thought the story itself was really interesting and a cool critique of the idea of normalcy in a modern society.

If anyone thinks the first three episodes are mildly interesting, I definitely recommend checking out the novel. It had everything that was featured in the anime plus more. Really excited to see where this series goes and if further arcs will be adapted in a similar manner
 

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