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Arceus: Deity Of Under Rated Sets
When people call Arceus the god of Ubers, they aren't kidding. Normal Arceus is constantly in the top 5 of monthly stats, Ghost Arceus is usually in the top 20, and when usage of all the formes is combined, Arceus is easily the most common Pokemon in Ubers. However, Arceus's insane combined usage tends to hide the Uber metagame's greatest oxymoron: Arceus is both the most common and under rated Pokemon in the game! This is all because Normal and Ghost Arceus hog so much usage, that the other Arceus formes just simply aren't that common. While I don't think that's going to change anytime soon (since the usual Normal and Ghost Arceus sets ARE pretty damn good!), I think it's about time we have some discussion on the less famous qualities of our favorite deity of the mons!
So here's the deal: The goal of this thread is to simply explore and talk about Arceus's under rated qualities. This can range from talking about under rated Arceus formes, great onsite sets that don't get enough use, obscure sets, custom ev spreads, and even twists on common Arceus sets! Don't worry if you have trouble posting new sets, discussion on stuff that's already posted is still a good contribution, since this thread isn't just about creative movesets, its also about exposing how many of Arceus's incredibly underutilized qualities can contribute to an Ubers team!
Below are two sets to get you started for discussion in case you can't think of any sets to post yourself. Don't worry, you don't need to post sets that are that long, I just got sorta carried away with the first set, sorry x_x
Arceus @ Draco Plate
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
- Swords Dance
- Brick Break / Fire Blast
- Fire Blast / Earthquake / Dragon Claw / Waterfall
You might think making Arceus a Dragon is redundant since you got a ton of other Dragons in Ubers already, but as it turns out, Dragon Arceus's stats actually make the other Dragons jealous! The stand out here is that glorious base 120 Speed, which means that other Dragons can't outspeed you without scarf. And if you prepare for these Scarf Dragons (with stuff like Wobbuffet or Thunder Wave lures), Dragon Arceus can be a real pain to revenge kill, because it's still pretty bulky even with the lack of investment! As an example of Dragon Arceus's bulk. Physical Scarf Genesect's only way of KOing you is via a boosted Explosion, otherwise its most powerful move against this Arceus is a boosted U-turn, doing 36.48 - 43.3% (Ice Beam does less thanks to that point in Special Defense screwing with download!), which is nice since Genesect is a big issue for Rayquaza and Garchomp. If you keep your Dragon Arceus really healthy (usually via either wish support, Wobbuffet support, or just smart playing), you can survive even greater stuff such as Choice Scarf Kyogre Ice Beam (does 56-67%) and Life Orb Mewtwo Ice Beam (does 69-81%). Finally, if you decide to use Dragon Arceus with dual screens, then it's bulk gets really absurd, because even Choice Scarf White Kyurem actually fails to KO a healthy Dragon Arceus with freaking Draco Meteor, dealing 62.99 - 74.54%! Don't worry about the less powerful Outrage either, because +2 base 120 Atk STAB Outrages are still VERY powerful. Max HP Arceus gets OHKOed 87% of the time after Stealth Rock damage, while both Lugia and Groudon are going to be taking over 60%. Hell, even this set's arch nemesis, Skarmory, is still taking 44-52% with its usual ev spread.
The real problem is that without the power of Life Orb, your other attacks simply aren't going to get as many KOs, so if you don't get the Swords Dance boost, you will notice a nasty loss in power compared to stuff like Life Orb Rayquaza. This also makes choosing the last move fairly tricky! As for the moves, Brick Break is here because Ferrothorn can be a real ass when you need to slice off half its health to get into Outrage kill range, and unlike Fire Blast, will 2HKO Ferrothorn in the rain when boosted (dealing 69.88 - 82.38). It also OHKOs Excadrill and does 59-70% to Steel Arceus. Fire Blast is pretty much the only way you can consistently smash through Forretress, and its your only shot vs Skarmory outside of the rain. Fire Blast is especially great if you have sun support, since that means you can actually replace Brick Break with it, and use Earthquake or Dragon Claw without having as many problems against Skarmory and Forretress. Speaking of Earthquake, at +2 it murders Jirachi, does 79-93% to Steel Arceus, and does a nice 86% minimum to max HP Dialga (just note that Outrage will actually always OHKO that after SR). Dragon Claw limits your coverage, but it can allow you to kill all the Dragons (with the exceptions of Dialga and Physically Defensive Giratina) in one hit, meaning that the opponent can't use them as bait to lock you into Outrage. Finally, there's the oddball option in Waterfall. If you are using Dragon Arceus in rain, +2 Waterfall will actually deal over 50% to Forretress, Jirachi, and Skarmory, plus you can do stuff like 76-89% to Mewtwo and 47-56% to max HP Arceus, giving you an alright way to snipe weakened Water neutral Pokemon without getting locked in.
Arceus @ Choice Band
EVs: 240 HP / 252 Atk / 16 Spe
- Earthquake / Brick Break / Swords Dance
- Shadow Claw / Swords Dance
Slapping a Choice Band on Arceus may seem sorta pointless in some ways, since with all the ExtremeSpeed resists people like to use, locking yourself into ExtremeSpeed sounds like a waste. While the extra power of CB ExtremeSpeed can be pretty damn useful vs offensive teams (doing stuff like always OHKOing Darkrai after Spikes + Stealth Rock), Trick is the real star of the show! Tricking a Choice Band onto stuff like Giratina, Lugia, Ferrothorn (watch out for Gyro Ball though), and Skarmory is one hell of a way to lure and cripple them, paving the way for some of your other teammates to sweep! Now, just tricking Choice Band at the start can be tricky depending on the opponent's team. For example, tricking a Terrakion , Groudon, or Landorus-T a Choice Band can make it quite a bit more dangerous! Thankfully, in Groudon and Landorus-T's case, you can take advantage of their predicted choice moves if they are defensive, since Earthquake is set up bait for the floating mons, and their other moves won't hurt too much on resists without much attack investment. The most important thing to remember though, is to pay attention to what the opponent's Arceus ends up being. If they are using some sort of support Arceus, they may switch into Trick and screw your plans up!
If you are feeling a bit more ambitious, you can give up coverage for Swords Dance. While this can be cool for the multipurpose aspect, be sure to still focus CB Arceus on offensive support, because the loss in coverage forces Arceus to make a really irritating choice: You will either be walled by pretty much every Steel-type with Shadow Claw, or Giratina-O will be immune to all your attacks with Earthquake or Brick Break!