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Battle Maison Discussion & Records
- Thread starter NoCheese
- Start date
pretty much just bumping this to get it in the op because it looks like it got passed up. . _ . Eppieok so I got to 79 in Super Singles before I got the shit haxed out of me by a Veteran with Suicune / Raikou / Zapdos. You can watch the pure crap here: SP2W-WWWW-WWW3-4XMF
My team was as follows:
Venomoth @ Black Sludge
Ability: Tinted Lens
248 HP / 8 Def / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 31/x/22/31/31/31
Real Stats: 145/67/78/142/95/156
- Sleep Powder
- Quiver Dance
- Bug Buzz
- Substitute
Aegislash @ Leftovers
Ability: Stance Change
252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
IVs: 31/31/31/x/31/31
Real Stats: 167/112/170/58/171/80
- Swords Dance
- King's Shield
- Shadow Sneak
- Sacred Sword
Azumarill @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Huge Power
244 HP / 252 Atk / 12 Spe
Adamant Nature
IVs: 29/31/14/23/31/31
Real Stats: 205/112/92/59/100/72
- Belly Drum
- Aqua Jet
- Waterfall
- Play Rough
Alright, so basic premise of the team was to use bulky setup sweepers to trudge through the opponent's team. I led with Venomoth so that I could put the opponent to sleep, even if I was in a poor matchup. From there, I would either start to Sub and set up with Quiver Dance or just switch out to Azu or Aegislash to set up and start tearing things up. By far the least valuable player for my team was Azumarill, who I'll probably swap out if I ever decide to plow through 80 battles again. The problem with Azumarill was just that I rarely ever felt comfortable enough to set up with it. If I use Azumarill again, I'll probably use like a dual screens Klefki lead instead, though I doubt I'll even do that tbh. I might try an Entrainment run, but I was already frustrated enough with how long it took this team to set up as it is that tbh I probably won't lol.
also as an update I just bred a perfect mega kangaskhan earlier today, so I'm going to give it a whirl over Venomoth and see if I can make it even further :)
I made the switch from Merlin to Winona'd the Azumarill, and I must say I am not disappointed. (I really needed a bulky attacker, and Azumarill is perfect), except for one thing:
I almost lost a battle because Play Rough MISSED TWICE IN A ROW against an Altaria. Just...wow. And then Air Slash missed in the same battle. In fact, this isn't the only time that Play Rough missing has almost cost me the battle; its accuracy seems closer to 50% for me, and I am seriously considering running Wide Lens instead of Splash Plate.
And in case you're wondering where the nickname Winona'd comes from, in one of my Emerald runs, I completely swept Winona with a Rollout Azumarill, and to this day I refer to rollout sweeps as being "Winona'd". Lame, I know, especially since this Azumarill doesn't even run Rollout. XD
I almost lost a battle because Play Rough MISSED TWICE IN A ROW against an Altaria. Just...wow. And then Air Slash missed in the same battle. In fact, this isn't the only time that Play Rough missing has almost cost me the battle; its accuracy seems closer to 50% for me, and I am seriously considering running Wide Lens instead of Splash Plate.
And in case you're wondering where the nickname Winona'd comes from, in one of my Emerald runs, I completely swept Winona with a Rollout Azumarill, and to this day I refer to rollout sweeps as being "Winona'd". Lame, I know, especially since this Azumarill doesn't even run Rollout. XD
You could run both Play Rough and Aqua Tail @ Wide Lens. With the extra base power from Aqua Tail, you won't miss the Splash Plate boost as much.
I'm quitting the maison.
I got a 79 win streak last time, and everything went fine until I got the shit haxed out of me, right?
If anyone feels like firing up the Vs. Recorder to check out THE haxiest Maison Battle in the history of the Battle Maison, check out what should have been just the start of my new streak that was cut (INCREDIBLY) short by a Zebstrika: DXXG-WWWW-WWW3-6GZM
I got a 79 win streak last time, and everything went fine until I got the shit haxed out of me, right?
If anyone feels like firing up the Vs. Recorder to check out THE haxiest Maison Battle in the history of the Battle Maison, check out what should have been just the start of my new streak that was cut (INCREDIBLY) short by a Zebstrika: DXXG-WWWW-WWW3-6GZM
I have made it too somewhere around the 40's on the Double challenge with this team:
Tallonflame
Gale Wings
31/31/31/xx/31/31
HP 124 / Atk 252 / Spe 132
- Swords Dance
- Protect
- Flare Blitz
- Acrobatics
Greninja
Protean
Expert Belt
31/31/31/31/31/31
HP 4 / Sp Atk 252 / Spe 252
- Mat Block
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Grass Knot
Mammoswine
Thick Fat
Life Orb
31/31/31/xx/31/31
HP 4 / Atk 252 / Spe 252
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Ice Shard
- Icicle Crash
Gengar
Levitate
Gengarite
31/xx/31/31/31/31
HP 80 / Sp Atk 252 / Spe 176
- Dazling Gleam
- Shadow Ball
- Sludge Bomb
- Protect
It works quite well actually. I start with Talonflame and Greninja. Greninja uses mat block and Talonflame uses swords dance with the exception of Fake Out users. After a Swords Dance Talonflame OHKO's almost every opponent. Greninja also pulls its weight quite well. Mamoswine is quite straight-forward. I had protect over rock slide, but I felt the need for more coverage, and so far it has worked even better with rock slide. Then we have Gengar. I might be somewhat bad at Pokémon, because everyone is saying such great things about this thing, but to be honest it lets me down most of the time. It goes down faster than Talonflame and Greninja somehow, and it doesn't hit as hard as I would like. So I need to switch it out, but with what? I have been contemplating using a Mega Scizor, but I don't know how well it will work with my team, and it is also a chore to breed for one. I have both Mega Charizard X and Y readily available with flawless IVs, but I don't feel the need for another fire type.
One thing I've learnt as I've played through the Maison is that I hate Ambipoom! That thing is too fast for its own good, and that wretched Fake Out, Fling, Thief, U-turn combo is hard to beat when its team mates are larger threats.
Tallonflame
Gale Wings
31/31/31/xx/31/31
HP 124 / Atk 252 / Spe 132
- Swords Dance
- Protect
- Flare Blitz
- Acrobatics
Greninja
Protean
Expert Belt
31/31/31/31/31/31
HP 4 / Sp Atk 252 / Spe 252
- Mat Block
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Grass Knot
Mammoswine
Thick Fat
Life Orb
31/31/31/xx/31/31
HP 4 / Atk 252 / Spe 252
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Ice Shard
- Icicle Crash
Gengar
Levitate
Gengarite
31/xx/31/31/31/31
HP 80 / Sp Atk 252 / Spe 176
- Dazling Gleam
- Shadow Ball
- Sludge Bomb
- Protect
It works quite well actually. I start with Talonflame and Greninja. Greninja uses mat block and Talonflame uses swords dance with the exception of Fake Out users. After a Swords Dance Talonflame OHKO's almost every opponent. Greninja also pulls its weight quite well. Mamoswine is quite straight-forward. I had protect over rock slide, but I felt the need for more coverage, and so far it has worked even better with rock slide. Then we have Gengar. I might be somewhat bad at Pokémon, because everyone is saying such great things about this thing, but to be honest it lets me down most of the time. It goes down faster than Talonflame and Greninja somehow, and it doesn't hit as hard as I would like. So I need to switch it out, but with what? I have been contemplating using a Mega Scizor, but I don't know how well it will work with my team, and it is also a chore to breed for one. I have both Mega Charizard X and Y readily available with flawless IVs, but I don't feel the need for another fire type.
One thing I've learnt as I've played through the Maison is that I hate Ambipoom! That thing is too fast for its own good, and that wretched Fake Out, Fling, Thief, U-turn combo is hard to beat when its team mates are larger threats.
Ouch! That really is bad luck...
Stuff like that is why I still keep Lum Berry on my Aegislash, even when my team has nothing else with Leftovers.
My Cloyster got paralyzed by a Thunder in sun and then missed rock blast.
End of 90.
Edit: I remember once in BW2 using a hacked wondertomb in the Subway. Since no one could hit me, every opponent that has the move Protect will keep using it. In my streak of 50 I never saw a double protect failing.
End of 90.
Edit: I remember once in BW2 using a hacked wondertomb in the Subway. Since no one could hit me, every opponent that has the move Protect will keep using it. In my streak of 50 I never saw a double protect failing.
I went and tackled the Super Multi Boss and it wasn't random to what I've seen. In Multi, the bosses for my case were Evelyn and Morgan. In Super Multi, the bosses were Nita and Dana to complete the roster of 4.
Of note (whether it is useful or not is not known to me, but I'm just putting it out as a point of consideration), the partner I used throughout Multi to Super Multi is exactly the same.
I'm thus inclined to believe that you can predict the Super Multi Bosses this way, and strategize accordingly, if you used the same partner (we changed our Pokemon along the way, so not having the same Pokemon is a non-issue here).
If it is indeed random, it is far less likely, with a mere 1/6 chance to hit that exact combination of Dana + Nita out of a random selection of 4 Chatelaines fitting 2 slots for Super Multi. If anyone has a case to the contrary that meets my exact criteria (same human partner throughout), do come forward to clarify. Else, it might remain as an observation that the Super Multi bosses were picked this way to give the best chances for players to strategize. This might be helpful information to whoever is attempting to take the bosses on.
My partner and I beat them 4 - 0, without even one Pokemon going to the yellow hp bar zone and below, despite not planning for their teams specifically, though I would very much have preferred the option to (and thus I hope my observation would help anyone tackling this format immensely) and here is the battle video:
VETG-WWWW-WWW3-6VYT
Just my 2 cents after fighting them.
Wow, thanks for making this!
I don't have as many battles for data collection, but as I was working my way up to 200 in Super Singles (which is where I took a break), I started saving the battles of trainers with Kalos Pokemon and/or old Pokemon with new items or sets. Afterwards, I went through them in Mock Battle and started recording the sets and items with an Imposter Ditto and a Pokemon with Frisk, and I wanted to share this data before I continued.
There are also a few that I recorded from the AI Multi-Battle partners. It appears that all of the partners that come from your Friends List use Set 3 Pokemon exclusively, but Shauna, Tierno, and Trevor don't necessarily.
I'm going to split this between Kalos and non-Kalos, mainly because many of the changes to non-Kalos Pokemon are just a single new move or item (in which case I won't list the whole set).
These will be listed in Kalos dex order. If the set is known (1-4), it will be listed, and will be replaced with a ? if it's not known. Once all 4 sets for a Pokemon have been recorded, I will place them under a separate spoiler tag to avoid clutter.
Chesnaught (3) @ Life Orb
Focus Blast
Energy Ball
Sludge Bomb
Round
Chesnaught (4) @ White Herb
Wood Hammer
Hammer Arm
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Pyroar (1) @ King's Rock
Flamethrower
Hyper Voice
Snarl
Noble Roar
Pyroar (2) @ Heat Rock
Sunny Day
Hyper Voice
Fire Blast
Solar Beam
Pyroar (4) @ White Herb
Overheat
Hyper Voice
Dark Pulse
Round
Florges (1) @ Babiri Berry
Flower Shield
Dazzling Gleam
Energy Ball
Wish
Florges (2) @ Kebia Berry
Misty Terrain
Grassy Terrain
Nature Power
Round
Florges (4) @ Lum Berry
Round
Petal Dance
Psychic
Moonblast
Gogoat (1) @ Yache Berry
Substitute
Horn Leech
Bulk Up
Payback
Gogoat (3) @ Big Root
Horn Leech
Leech Seed
Protect
Payback
Gogoat (4) @ Choice Band
Earthquake
Leaf Blade
Wild Charge
Brick Break
Aromatisse (2) @ Assault Vest
Round
Psychic
Energy Ball
Dazzling Gleam
Aromatisse (3) @ Expert Belt
Flash Cannon
Thunder
Psyshock
Moonblast
Aromatisse (4) @ Leftovers
Aromatic Mist
Dazzling Gleam
Heal Pulse
Trick Room
Slurpuff (1) @ Big Root
Draining Kiss
Cotton Guard
Play Nice
Confide
Slurpuff (3) @ Kee Berry
Endeavor
Play Rough
Facade
Cotton Guard
Slurpuff (4) @ Expert Belt
Dazzling Gleam
Energy Ball
Thunderbolt
Flamethrower
Barbaracle (2) @ Wise Glasses
Ancient Power
Blizzard
Surf
Focus Blast
Barbaracle (3) @ Expert Belt
Dragon Claw
Earthquake
X-Scissor
Night Slash
Barbaracle (4) @ Razor Claw
Stone Edge
Razor Shell
Cross Chop
Shadow Claw
Aurorus (2) @ Leftovers
Ancient Power
Hail
Sandstorm
Freeze-Dry
Aurorus (3) @ Expert Belt
Giga Impact
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Frost Breath
Aurorus (4) @ Life Orb
Hyper Beam
Flash Cannon
Thunder
Psychic
Missing: Just a few more sets!
Chesnaught (3) @ Life Orb
Focus Blast
Energy Ball
Sludge Bomb
Round
Chesnaught (4) @ White Herb
Wood Hammer
Hammer Arm
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Delphox (1) @ Petaya Berry
Confide
Psychic
Flamethrower
Round
Delphox (2) @ Flame Orb
Role Play
Switcheroo
Mystical Fire
Shadow Ball
Delphox (3) @ Heat Rock
Sunny Day
Solar Beam
Fire Blast
Psychic
Delphox (4) @ White Herb
Overheat
Psychic
Shadow Ball
Psyshock
Confide
Psychic
Flamethrower
Round
Delphox (2) @ Flame Orb
Role Play
Switcheroo
Mystical Fire
Shadow Ball
Delphox (3) @ Heat Rock
Sunny Day
Solar Beam
Fire Blast
Psychic
Delphox (4) @ White Herb
Overheat
Psychic
Shadow Ball
Psyshock
Greninja (1) @ Leftovers
Mat Block
Spikes
Scald
Toxic
Greninja (2) @ Damp Rock
Rain Dance
Surf
Round
Ice Beam
Greninja (3) @ King's Rock
Water Shuriken
Rock Slide
Grass Knot
U-turn
Greninja (4) @ Wide Lens
Hydro Pump
Dark Pulse
Blizzard
Extrasensory
Mat Block
Spikes
Scald
Toxic
Greninja (2) @ Damp Rock
Rain Dance
Surf
Round
Ice Beam
Greninja (3) @ King's Rock
Water Shuriken
Rock Slide
Grass Knot
U-turn
Greninja (4) @ Wide Lens
Hydro Pump
Dark Pulse
Blizzard
Extrasensory
Talonflame (1) @ Charti Berry
Round
Me First
Will-O-Wisp
Flamethrower
Talonflame (2) @ Heat Rock
Round
Fire Blast
Sunny Day
Solar Beam
Talonflame (3) @ Focus Sash
Swords Dance
Quick Attack
Flail
Acrobatics
Talonflame (4) @ Sitrus Berry
Brave Bird
Flare Blitz
Quick Attack
Swords Dance
Round
Me First
Will-O-Wisp
Flamethrower
Talonflame (2) @ Heat Rock
Round
Fire Blast
Sunny Day
Solar Beam
Talonflame (3) @ Focus Sash
Swords Dance
Quick Attack
Flail
Acrobatics
Talonflame (4) @ Sitrus Berry
Brave Bird
Flare Blitz
Quick Attack
Swords Dance
Pyroar (1) @ King's Rock
Flamethrower
Hyper Voice
Snarl
Noble Roar
Pyroar (2) @ Heat Rock
Sunny Day
Hyper Voice
Fire Blast
Solar Beam
Pyroar (4) @ White Herb
Overheat
Hyper Voice
Dark Pulse
Round
Florges (1) @ Babiri Berry
Flower Shield
Dazzling Gleam
Energy Ball
Wish
Florges (2) @ Kebia Berry
Misty Terrain
Grassy Terrain
Nature Power
Round
Florges (4) @ Lum Berry
Round
Petal Dance
Psychic
Moonblast
Gogoat (1) @ Yache Berry
Substitute
Horn Leech
Bulk Up
Payback
Gogoat (3) @ Big Root
Horn Leech
Leech Seed
Protect
Payback
Gogoat (4) @ Choice Band
Earthquake
Leaf Blade
Wild Charge
Brick Break
Aromatisse (2) @ Assault Vest
Round
Psychic
Energy Ball
Dazzling Gleam
Aromatisse (3) @ Expert Belt
Flash Cannon
Thunder
Psyshock
Moonblast
Aromatisse (4) @ Leftovers
Aromatic Mist
Dazzling Gleam
Heal Pulse
Trick Room
Slurpuff (1) @ Big Root
Draining Kiss
Cotton Guard
Play Nice
Confide
Slurpuff (3) @ Kee Berry
Endeavor
Play Rough
Facade
Cotton Guard
Slurpuff (4) @ Expert Belt
Dazzling Gleam
Energy Ball
Thunderbolt
Flamethrower
Barbaracle (2) @ Wise Glasses
Ancient Power
Blizzard
Surf
Focus Blast
Barbaracle (3) @ Expert Belt
Dragon Claw
Earthquake
X-Scissor
Night Slash
Barbaracle (4) @ Razor Claw
Stone Edge
Razor Shell
Cross Chop
Shadow Claw
Clawitzer (1) @ Bright Powder
Heal Pulse
Muddy Water
Double Team
Confide
Clawitzer (2) @ Petaya Berry
Flash Cannon
Scald
Sludge Wave
Round
Clawitzer (3) @ Focus Sash
Crabhammer
Return
U-turn
Flail
Clawitzer (4) @ Choice Specs
Water Pulse
Dark Pulse
Dragon Pulse
Aura Sphere
Heal Pulse
Muddy Water
Double Team
Confide
Clawitzer (2) @ Petaya Berry
Flash Cannon
Scald
Sludge Wave
Round
Clawitzer (3) @ Focus Sash
Crabhammer
Return
U-turn
Flail
Clawitzer (4) @ Choice Specs
Water Pulse
Dark Pulse
Dragon Pulse
Aura Sphere
Tyrantrum (1) @ Lax Incense
Stealth Rock
Dragon Tail
Double Team
Earthquake
Tyrantrum (2) @ Leftovers
Crunch
Charm
Sandstorm
Dragon Claw
Tyrantrum (3) @ Wide Lens
Horn Drill
Stone Edge
Rest
Sleep Talk
Tyrantrum (4) @ Choice Band
Crunch
Dragon Claw
Earthquake
Head Smash
Stealth Rock
Dragon Tail
Double Team
Earthquake
Tyrantrum (2) @ Leftovers
Crunch
Charm
Sandstorm
Dragon Claw
Tyrantrum (3) @ Wide Lens
Horn Drill
Stone Edge
Rest
Sleep Talk
Tyrantrum (4) @ Choice Band
Crunch
Dragon Claw
Earthquake
Head Smash
Aurorus (2) @ Leftovers
Ancient Power
Hail
Sandstorm
Freeze-Dry
Aurorus (3) @ Expert Belt
Giga Impact
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Frost Breath
Aurorus (4) @ Life Orb
Hyper Beam
Flash Cannon
Thunder
Psychic
Sylveon (1) @ Leftovers
Misty Terrain
Tail Whip
Helping Hand
Dazzling Gleam
Sylveon (2) @ Ganlon Berry
Baton Pass
Calm Mind
Psych Up
Moonblast
Sylveon (3) @ Razor Claw
Moonblast
Shadow Ball
Round
Psyshock
Sylveon (4) @ Big Root
Draining Kiss
Baby-Doll Eyes
Psyshock
Misty Terrain
Misty Terrain
Tail Whip
Helping Hand
Dazzling Gleam
Sylveon (2) @ Ganlon Berry
Baton Pass
Calm Mind
Psych Up
Moonblast
Sylveon (3) @ Razor Claw
Moonblast
Shadow Ball
Round
Psyshock
Sylveon (4) @ Big Root
Draining Kiss
Baby-Doll Eyes
Psyshock
Misty Terrain
Hawlucha (1) @ Salac Berry
Acrobatics
High Jump Kick
Feather Dance
Taunt
Hawlucha (2) @ Leftovers
Toxic
Bounce
Dig
Protect
Hawlucha (3) @ Liechi Berry
Swords Dance
Flying Press
Acrobatics
Steel Wing
Hawlucha (4) @ Power Herb
Sky Attack
Flying Press
U-turn
Stone Edge
Acrobatics
High Jump Kick
Feather Dance
Taunt
Hawlucha (2) @ Leftovers
Toxic
Bounce
Dig
Protect
Hawlucha (3) @ Liechi Berry
Swords Dance
Flying Press
Acrobatics
Steel Wing
Hawlucha (4) @ Power Herb
Sky Attack
Flying Press
U-turn
Stone Edge
Carbink (1) @ Light Clay
Reflect
Light Screen
Safeguard
Dazzling Gleam
Carbink (2) @ Smooth Rock
Toxic
Protect
Sandstorm
Power Gem
Carbink (3) @ Iron Ball
Trick Room
Gyro Ball
Dazzling Gleam
Power Gem
Carbink (4) @ Scope Lens
Explosion
Psychic
Moonblast
Power Gem
Reflect
Light Screen
Safeguard
Dazzling Gleam
Carbink (2) @ Smooth Rock
Toxic
Protect
Sandstorm
Power Gem
Carbink (3) @ Iron Ball
Trick Room
Gyro Ball
Dazzling Gleam
Power Gem
Carbink (4) @ Scope Lens
Explosion
Psychic
Moonblast
Power Gem
Goodra (1) @ Lax Incense
Substitute
Muddy Water
Dragon Pulse
Sludge Wave
Goodra (2) @ Lum Berry
Aqua Tail
Body Slam
Earthquake
Outrage
Goodra (3) @ Damp Rock
Dragon Pulse
Rain Dance
Thunder
Muddy Water
Goodra (4) @ White Herb
Draco Meteor
Thunder
Blizzard
Fire Blast
Substitute
Muddy Water
Dragon Pulse
Sludge Wave
Goodra (2) @ Lum Berry
Aqua Tail
Body Slam
Earthquake
Outrage
Goodra (3) @ Damp Rock
Dragon Pulse
Rain Dance
Thunder
Muddy Water
Goodra (4) @ White Herb
Draco Meteor
Thunder
Blizzard
Fire Blast
Trevenant (1) @ Wise Glasses
Psychic
Shadow Ball
Energy Ball
Round
Trevenant (2) @ Leftovers
Toxic
Ingrain
Protect
Phantom Force
Trevenant (3) @ Choice Band
Horn Leech
Shadow Claw
Earthquake
X-Scissor
Trevenant (4) @ Iron Ball
Trick Room
Focus Blast
Energy Ball
Shadow Ball
Psychic
Shadow Ball
Energy Ball
Round
Trevenant (2) @ Leftovers
Toxic
Ingrain
Protect
Phantom Force
Trevenant (3) @ Choice Band
Horn Leech
Shadow Claw
Earthquake
X-Scissor
Trevenant (4) @ Iron Ball
Trick Room
Focus Blast
Energy Ball
Shadow Ball
Gourgeist (1) @ Sitrus Berry
Will-O-Wisp
Trick-or-Treat
Pain Split
Phantom Force
Gourgeist (2) @ Iron Ball
Trick Room
Gyro Ball
Seed Bomb
Explosion
Gourgeist (3) @ Wise Glasses
Shadow Ball
Sludge Bomb
Energy Ball
Flamethrower
Gourgeist (4) @ Life Orb
Trick-or-Treat
Phantom Force
Seed Bomb
Rock Slide
Will-O-Wisp
Trick-or-Treat
Pain Split
Phantom Force
Gourgeist (2) @ Iron Ball
Trick Room
Gyro Ball
Seed Bomb
Explosion
Gourgeist (3) @ Wise Glasses
Shadow Ball
Sludge Bomb
Energy Ball
Flamethrower
Gourgeist (4) @ Life Orb
Trick-or-Treat
Phantom Force
Seed Bomb
Rock Slide
Avalugg (1) @ Leftovers
Avalanche
Confide
Protect
Toxic
Avalugg (2) @ Apicot Berry
Rest
Curse
Frost Breath
Skull Bash
Avalugg (3) @ Icy Rock
Hail
Blizzard
Recover
Flash Cannon
Avalugg (4) @ Iron Ball
Stone Edge
Avalanche
Gyro Ball
Earthquake
Avalanche
Confide
Protect
Toxic
Avalugg (2) @ Apicot Berry
Rest
Curse
Frost Breath
Skull Bash
Avalugg (3) @ Icy Rock
Hail
Blizzard
Recover
Flash Cannon
Avalugg (4) @ Iron Ball
Stone Edge
Avalanche
Gyro Ball
Earthquake
Noivern (1) @ Yache Berry
Super Fang
Boomburst
Round
Torment
Noivern (2) @ Roseli Berry
Dragon Claw
Wild Charge
X-Scissor
Acrobatics
Noivern (3) @ Razor Fang
Air Slash
Dragon Pulse
Flamethrower
Psychic
Noivern (4) @ Wide Lens
Dragon Pulse
Hurricane
Flamethrower
Focus Blast
Super Fang
Boomburst
Round
Torment
Noivern (2) @ Roseli Berry
Dragon Claw
Wild Charge
X-Scissor
Acrobatics
Noivern (3) @ Razor Fang
Air Slash
Dragon Pulse
Flamethrower
Psychic
Noivern (4) @ Wide Lens
Dragon Pulse
Hurricane
Flamethrower
Focus Blast
Missing: Just a few more sets!
Sets with more than one change, or which are entirely new, are listed first, then smaller changes after, in no particular order, other than legendary Pokemon at the end. As in the Kalos Pokemon listing, the set (1-4) will be listed if known. I will make exceptions to this if every set of a given Pokemon received a change, but some of them only had one move or item changed, in which case they will be grouped together.
In the case of Landorus, which has had at least one change to all of its sets, but doesn't appear until Set 5, the sets I chose are based on their the similarity to the old Subway sets. Based on how Veterans work this time around, I'm confident that these are the right sets now.
Altaria's sets were handled in a sort of strange way. Altaria's old Set 4 is now its Set 1, and it got a new Set 4 to replace it.
Espeon (4) @ Expert Belt
Psychic
Shadow Ball
Signal Beam
Dazzling Gleam
Granbull (1) @ Leftovers
Charm
Protect
Retaliate
Payback
Granbull (2) @ Wise Glasses
Snarl
Thunderbolt
Dazzling Gleam
Sludge Bomb
Granbull (4) @ Life Orb
Fire Fang
Ice Fang
Play Rough
Crunch
Aggron (2) @ King's Rock
Surf
Flash Cannon
Focus Blast
Round
Aggron (3) @ Wide Lens
Iron Tail
Dragon Rush
Avalanche
Stone Edge
Aggron (4) @ Shuca Berry
Metal Burst
Taunt
Earthquake
Shadow Claw
Politoed (2) @ Damp Rock
Rain Dance
Round
Body Slam
Hydro Pump
Charizard (1) @ Salac Berry
Dragon Claw
Fire Punch
Belly Drum
Shadow Claw
Charizard (4) @ Assault Vest
Heat Wave
Air Slash
Dragon Pulse
Focus Blast
Dragonite (4) @ Snowball
Dragon Rush
Iron Tail
Extreme Speed
Fire Punch
Altaria (2) @ Snowball
Dragon Claw
Pluck
Steel Wing
Dragon Dance
Altaria (4) @ Wide Lens
Cotton Guard
Sing
Moonblast
Dream Eater
Lucario (4) @ Weakness Policy
Aura Sphere
Dragon Pulse
Stone Edge
Extreme Speed
Lanturn (1) @ Salac Berry
Thunder Wave
Volt Switch
Waterfall
Agility
Aerodactyl (3) @ Expert Belt
Iron Head
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Thunder Fang
Gengar (3) @ Payapa Berry
Shadow Ball
Energy Ball
Dazzling Gleam
Round
Snorlax (4) @ Assault Vest
Body Slam
Power-Up Punch
Earthquake
Crunch
Articuno (3) @ Charti Berry
Frost Breath
Reflect
Steel Wing
U-turn
Entei (4) @ Life Orb
Sacred Fire
Iron Head
Stone Edge
Protect
Latias (1) @ Lax Incense
Calm Mind
Mist Ball
Dragon Pulse
Recover
Latios (1) @ Lax Incense
Calm Mind
Luster Purge
Dragon Pulse
Recover
Cresselia (4) @ Iron Ball
Psychic
Trick
Moonblast
Trick Room
Toxicroak (1):
Dark Gem -> Payapa Berry
Flygon (1):
Liechi Berry -> Weakness Policy
Drifblim (1):
Memento -> Ominous Wind
Honchkrow (1):
Sitrus Berry -> Kee Berry
Lickilicky (1):
Sitrus Berry -> Kee Berry
Reuniclus (1):
Sitrus Berry -> Kee Berry
Froslass (1):
Icy Rock -> Colbur Berry
Zebstrika (1):
Electric Gem -> Shuca Berry
Togekiss (2):
Psych Up -> Steel Wing
Jynx (1):
Captivate -> Draining Kiss
Blissey (1):
Thunder Wave -> Round
Meganium (2):
Grass Whistle -> Petal Blizzard
Weezing (2):
Poison Gem -> Safety Goggles
Victreebel (2):
Grass Gem -> Safety Goggles
Drapion (2):
Dark Gem -> Shuca Berry
Krookodile (2):
Rock Gem -> Roseli Berry
Mandibuzz (2):
Flying Gem -> Roseli Berry
Froslass (2):
Ice Gem -> Kasib Berry
Arcanine (2):
Fire Gem -> Weakness Policy
Claydol (3):
Ground Gem -> Luminous Moss
Krookodile (3):
Dark Gem -> Roseli Berry
Cofagrigus (3):
Sitrus Berry -> Maranga Berry
Donphan (3):
Sitrus Berry -> Maranga Berry
Kingdra (3):
Sitrus Berry -> Maranga Berry
Swampert (3):
Sitrus Berry -> Maranga Berry
Eelektross (3):
Sitrus Berry -> Assault Vest
Magnezone (4):
Electric Gem -> Assault Vest
Gothitelle (3):
Sitrus Berry -> Kee Berry
Carracosta (4):
Rindo Berry -> Weakness Policy
Beartic (4):
Lax Incense -> Assault Vest
Klinklang (4):
Steel Gem -> Leftovers
Ludicolo (4):
Sitrus Berry -> Kee Berry
Seismitoad (4):
Sitrus Berry -> Maranga Berry
Vanilluxe (4):
Sitrus Berry -> Maranga Berry
Mismagius (4):
Confuse Ray -> Power Gem
Garchomp (4):
Rock Slide -> Stone Edge
Braviary (3):
Flying Gem -> Choice Scarf
Hydreigon (4):
Dragon Gem -> Roseli Berry
Articuno (4):
Ice Gem -> Leftovers
Regirock (3):
Rock Gem -> Luminous Moss
Latias (2):
Protect -> Mist Ball
Cresselia (3):
Safeguard -> Round
Cobalion (2):
Sitrus Berry -> Maranga Berry
Tornadus (2):
Leftovers -> Yache Berry
Thundurus (2):
Choice Band -> Choice Specs
In the case of Landorus, which has had at least one change to all of its sets, but doesn't appear until Set 5, the sets I chose are based on their the similarity to the old Subway sets. Based on how Veterans work this time around, I'm confident that these are the right sets now.
Altaria's sets were handled in a sort of strange way. Altaria's old Set 4 is now its Set 1, and it got a new Set 4 to replace it.
Espeon (4) @ Expert Belt
Psychic
Shadow Ball
Signal Beam
Dazzling Gleam
Mr. Mime (1) @ Choice Scarf
Trick
Dazzling Gleam
Psychic
Energy Ball
Mr. Mime (2) @ Jaboca Berry
Payback
Wide Guard
Confide
Fake Out
Mr. Mime (3) @ Light Clay
Light Screen
Psychic
Reflect
Dazzling Gleam
Mr. Mime (4) @ Babiri Berry
Shadow Ball
Signal Beam
Dazzling Gleam
Psychic
Trick
Dazzling Gleam
Psychic
Energy Ball
Mr. Mime (2) @ Jaboca Berry
Payback
Wide Guard
Confide
Fake Out
Mr. Mime (3) @ Light Clay
Light Screen
Psychic
Reflect
Dazzling Gleam
Mr. Mime (4) @ Babiri Berry
Shadow Ball
Signal Beam
Dazzling Gleam
Psychic
Granbull (1) @ Leftovers
Charm
Protect
Retaliate
Payback
Granbull (2) @ Wise Glasses
Snarl
Thunderbolt
Dazzling Gleam
Sludge Bomb
Granbull (4) @ Life Orb
Fire Fang
Ice Fang
Play Rough
Crunch
Gardevoir (1) @ Wide Lens
Hypnosis
Dream Eater
Imprison
Dazzling Gleam
Gardevoir (2) @ Bright Powder
Stored Power
Thunderbolt
Calm Mind
Double Team
Gardevoir (3) @ Lum Berry
Psychic
Shadow Ball
Energy Ball
Dazzling Gleam
Gardevoir (4) @ Babiri Berry
Psychic
Moonblast
Focus Blast
Thunderbolt
Hypnosis
Dream Eater
Imprison
Dazzling Gleam
Gardevoir (2) @ Bright Powder
Stored Power
Thunderbolt
Calm Mind
Double Team
Gardevoir (3) @ Lum Berry
Psychic
Shadow Ball
Energy Ball
Dazzling Gleam
Gardevoir (4) @ Babiri Berry
Psychic
Moonblast
Focus Blast
Thunderbolt
Aggron (2) @ King's Rock
Surf
Flash Cannon
Focus Blast
Round
Aggron (3) @ Wide Lens
Iron Tail
Dragon Rush
Avalanche
Stone Edge
Aggron (4) @ Shuca Berry
Metal Burst
Taunt
Earthquake
Shadow Claw
Politoed (2) @ Damp Rock
Rain Dance
Round
Body Slam
Hydro Pump
Charizard (1) @ Salac Berry
Dragon Claw
Fire Punch
Belly Drum
Shadow Claw
Charizard (4) @ Assault Vest
Heat Wave
Air Slash
Dragon Pulse
Focus Blast
Dragonite (4) @ Snowball
Dragon Rush
Iron Tail
Extreme Speed
Fire Punch
Togekiss (1) @ Sitrus Berry
Encore
Follow Me
Reflect
Dazzling Gleam
Togekiss (2) @ Liechi Berry
Extreme Speed
Aerial Ace
Steel Wing
Brick Break
Togekiss (3) @ King's Rock
Grass Knot
Thunder Wave
Air Slash
Shadow Ball
Togekiss (4) @ Expert Belt
Aura Sphere
Air Slash
Heat Wave
Dazzling Gleam
Encore
Follow Me
Reflect
Dazzling Gleam
Togekiss (2) @ Liechi Berry
Extreme Speed
Aerial Ace
Steel Wing
Brick Break
Togekiss (3) @ King's Rock
Grass Knot
Thunder Wave
Air Slash
Shadow Ball
Togekiss (4) @ Expert Belt
Aura Sphere
Air Slash
Heat Wave
Dazzling Gleam
Altaria (2) @ Snowball
Dragon Claw
Pluck
Steel Wing
Dragon Dance
Altaria (4) @ Wide Lens
Cotton Guard
Sing
Moonblast
Dream Eater
Lucario (4) @ Weakness Policy
Aura Sphere
Dragon Pulse
Stone Edge
Extreme Speed
Darmanitan (1) @ Leftovers
Fire Punch
Psychic
Protect
Will-O-Wisp
Darmanitan (2) @ Luminous Moss
Psychic
Heat Wave
Round
Confide
Darmanitan (3) @ Assault Vest
Psychic
Earthquake
Flare Blitz
Overheat
Darmanitan (4) @ Choice Scarf
Flare Blitz
Stone Edge
U-turn
Superpower
Fire Punch
Psychic
Protect
Will-O-Wisp
Darmanitan (2) @ Luminous Moss
Psychic
Heat Wave
Round
Confide
Darmanitan (3) @ Assault Vest
Psychic
Earthquake
Flare Blitz
Overheat
Darmanitan (4) @ Choice Scarf
Flare Blitz
Stone Edge
U-turn
Superpower
Lanturn (1) @ Salac Berry
Thunder Wave
Volt Switch
Waterfall
Agility
Aerodactyl (3) @ Expert Belt
Iron Head
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Thunder Fang
Gengar (3) @ Payapa Berry
Shadow Ball
Energy Ball
Dazzling Gleam
Round
Snorlax (4) @ Assault Vest
Body Slam
Power-Up Punch
Earthquake
Crunch
Articuno (3) @ Charti Berry
Frost Breath
Reflect
Steel Wing
U-turn
Entei (4) @ Life Orb
Sacred Fire
Iron Head
Stone Edge
Protect
Latias (1) @ Lax Incense
Calm Mind
Mist Ball
Dragon Pulse
Recover
Latios (1) @ Lax Incense
Calm Mind
Luster Purge
Dragon Pulse
Recover
Cresselia (4) @ Iron Ball
Psychic
Trick
Moonblast
Trick Room
Landorus (1) @ Apicot Berry
Rest
Sleep Talk
Smack Down
Fissure
Landorus (2) @ Choice Scarf
Earth Power
Extrasensory
Focus Blast
Grass Knot
Landorus (3) @ Smooth Rock
Sandstorm
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Protect
Landorus (4) @ White Herb
Hammer Arm
Earthquake
Explosion
U-turn
Rest
Sleep Talk
Smack Down
Fissure
Landorus (2) @ Choice Scarf
Earth Power
Extrasensory
Focus Blast
Grass Knot
Landorus (3) @ Smooth Rock
Sandstorm
Earthquake
Rock Slide
Protect
Landorus (4) @ White Herb
Hammer Arm
Earthquake
Explosion
U-turn
Toxicroak (1):
Dark Gem -> Payapa Berry
Flygon (1):
Liechi Berry -> Weakness Policy
Drifblim (1):
Memento -> Ominous Wind
Honchkrow (1):
Sitrus Berry -> Kee Berry
Lickilicky (1):
Sitrus Berry -> Kee Berry
Reuniclus (1):
Sitrus Berry -> Kee Berry
Froslass (1):
Icy Rock -> Colbur Berry
Zebstrika (1):
Electric Gem -> Shuca Berry
Togekiss (2):
Psych Up -> Steel Wing
Jynx (1):
Captivate -> Draining Kiss
Blissey (1):
Thunder Wave -> Round
Meganium (2):
Grass Whistle -> Petal Blizzard
Weezing (2):
Poison Gem -> Safety Goggles
Victreebel (2):
Grass Gem -> Safety Goggles
Drapion (2):
Dark Gem -> Shuca Berry
Krookodile (2):
Rock Gem -> Roseli Berry
Mandibuzz (2):
Flying Gem -> Roseli Berry
Froslass (2):
Ice Gem -> Kasib Berry
Arcanine (2):
Fire Gem -> Weakness Policy
Claydol (3):
Ground Gem -> Luminous Moss
Krookodile (3):
Dark Gem -> Roseli Berry
Cofagrigus (3):
Sitrus Berry -> Maranga Berry
Donphan (3):
Sitrus Berry -> Maranga Berry
Kingdra (3):
Sitrus Berry -> Maranga Berry
Swampert (3):
Sitrus Berry -> Maranga Berry
Eelektross (3):
Sitrus Berry -> Assault Vest
Magnezone (4):
Electric Gem -> Assault Vest
Gothitelle (3):
Sitrus Berry -> Kee Berry
Carracosta (4):
Rindo Berry -> Weakness Policy
Beartic (4):
Lax Incense -> Assault Vest
Klinklang (4):
Steel Gem -> Leftovers
Ludicolo (4):
Sitrus Berry -> Kee Berry
Seismitoad (4):
Sitrus Berry -> Maranga Berry
Vanilluxe (4):
Sitrus Berry -> Maranga Berry
Mismagius (4):
Confuse Ray -> Power Gem
Garchomp (4):
Rock Slide -> Stone Edge
Braviary (3):
Flying Gem -> Choice Scarf
Hydreigon (4):
Dragon Gem -> Roseli Berry
Articuno (4):
Ice Gem -> Leftovers
Regirock (3):
Rock Gem -> Luminous Moss
Latias (2):
Protect -> Mist Ball
Cresselia (3):
Safeguard -> Round
Cobalion (2):
Sitrus Berry -> Maranga Berry
Tornadus (2):
Leftovers -> Yache Berry
Thundurus (2):
Choice Band -> Choice Specs
These are only the things I've seen and personally recorded; some of these have already been mentioned in the thread, and I know I'm missing other changes that I haven't seen yet. I will add more to this as I continue, and please let me know if there are any mistakes!
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Due to always falling short in triples with my speedy team, I have built a team more or less the same as the quote. (Using Garchomp atm instead of Sala to take advantage of sandstorm for evasion) For Aboma, how do you folks think a moveset of blizzard, energy ball and earthquake would work compared to blizz+wood hammer+focus blast? The moveset with EQ gives 99,9% neutral coverage (looking at you Shedinja) and I would imagine it being better due to no recoil from wood hammer, but ofc the standard set of Kappaten is evading the team dmg from EQ.WOOHOO! Beat the Super Triples Chatelaine on my second try! (I had a bad loss around 15 my first try where I got OHKO haxed) Triples are sooo much more fun than singles. Here's the team I used:
Abomasnow@Abomasite
Snow Warning
Quiet, 252 HP/6 Atk/252 SpA
-Blizzard
-Protect
-Wood Hammer
-Focus Blast
The king of this team. Spamming perfect blizzards and having so many weaknesses that the AI flocks to attack him, he really was the glue that held this team together. I got a lot of freeze hax that made a lot of battles not as close as they should have been. I used wood hammer to finish off the odd water type, but I almost always used protect on the first turn, followed by blizzard spam. Would mega on the second turn sometimes if I thought the AI was going to use a weather move.
Azumarill@Splash Plate
Huge Power
Adamant, 252 HP/252 Atk/6 Spe
-Waterfall
-Aqua Jet
-Play Rough
-Superpower
My left slot. Kept the pressure off of Abomasnow by using waterfall/aqua jet on problem fire types. Play rough helps to deal with bulky waters more reliably, and Superpower hit the steels that would give Abomasnow problems.
Aromatisse@Safety Goggles
Aroma Veil
Sassy, 252 HP/6 Def/252 SpD
-Moonblast
-Trick Room
-Protect
-Wish
Wow, this thing is one of my new favorite pokemon. It was an incredibly reliable trick room setter, only failing maybe twice through the whole 50 battles (due to fake out or confusion). After trick room was up, Moonblast spam was surprisingly effective. It hits surprisingly well coming off of Aromatisse's above-average special attack. Wish and Protect may as well have been filler. I used them a few times but they almost never meant anything. Safety Goggles over leftovers because I should ALWAYS have damaging weather up, and leftovers don't protect from powder moves (even though I never encountered any).
Reuniclus@Life Orb
Magic Guard
Bold, 252 HP/252 Def/6 SpA
-Psyshock
-Trick Room
-Focus Blast
-Shadow Ball
Backup room setter and substitute if one of my sides fainted. Not a lot to explain, because it mostly dealt with poison types that weren't part ground. I used Focus Blast on this guy more than on Abomasnow. I don't think he ever actually set Trick Room, but I sure felt better having him around.
Tyranitar@Assault Vest
Sand Stream
Sassy, 252 HP/6 Atk/252 SpD
-Rock Slide
-Earthquake
-Payback
-Fire Blast
Surprise! Double weather! If Abomasnow fainted (or had too many fire types or water types to deal with), in came this guy. Had his own plethora of weaknesses, but since I was already running two fairies and a psychic type, the major fighting type weakness was covered. Soaked up attacks and dealt the damage back while my sides tore through the rest. Was absolutely invaluable.
Salamence@Choice Specs
Intimidate
Naive, 6 HP/252 SpA/252 Spe
-Dragon Pulse
-Draco Meteor
-Hydro Pump
-Fire Blast
The closer. If I ever didn't get trick room set up (and had something die) or had trick room expire, this guy stepped up to the plate. Dragon Pulse was the attack of choice over Draco Meteor since I could hit things across the field. Fire Blast came in handy a couple times against steels.
So there you are! It was a lot of fun using a different Mega than I've seen a lot of people use :) Here are two battles for you guys: the first is against a veteran that gave me a scare, and the second is against the Chatelaine (in case anyone needs to do more research on her team).
J9CW-WWWW-WWW3-2GLN
TL6W-WWWW-WWW3-2GMW
So, any suggestions? This is for triples ofc.
There are some freaking weird sets this time around. I just encounter an Assault Vest... Aromatisse. HUH?
This may be a dumb question, but does that preschooler do anything if you get 100+ wins?
If you get 100+ wins, she'll give you a Lansat berry. 200+ and she'll give you a starf berry.
And in case you didn't know Blockmaster, that is for getting streaks of 100+/200+ wins in any Super difficulty, may it be singles/doubles/triples/rotation/multis that you feel you can Ace in :D
Thanks, I was wondering how that worked. Anyway, here's what I'm using right now:
Scizor@Scizorite:
Bullet punch
U-Turn
Pursuit
Roost
I'm not sure what to use instead of pursuit, 'cause Brick Break is underwhelming as is Aerial Ace. Swords Dance sounds good, but I kinda want more coverage.
Chandelure@Choice Scarf
Fire Blast
Shadow ball
Energy Ball
Psychic
Ended up with HP steel so that a not use( plus i have no clue how to get a good HP ). Makes a good partner to Scizor, mainly because of Flash Fire as well as breaking most of the stuff that walls him.
Chesnaught@Leftovers
Pain split
Hammer arm
Wood hammer
Shadow claw
He does pretty damn good againt the ghosts that hurt Chandelure, being immune to shadow ball and being faster than most ( all? ) physical ghost-types. Also helps Scizor with the resistance to ground and rock. I'm not sure if I should keep Pain Split or use leech seed/synthesis.
Scizor@Scizorite:
Bullet punch
U-Turn
Pursuit
Roost
I'm not sure what to use instead of pursuit, 'cause Brick Break is underwhelming as is Aerial Ace. Swords Dance sounds good, but I kinda want more coverage.
Chandelure@Choice Scarf
Fire Blast
Shadow ball
Energy Ball
Psychic
Ended up with HP steel so that a not use( plus i have no clue how to get a good HP ). Makes a good partner to Scizor, mainly because of Flash Fire as well as breaking most of the stuff that walls him.
Chesnaught@Leftovers
Pain split
Hammer arm
Wood hammer
Shadow claw
He does pretty damn good againt the ghosts that hurt Chandelure, being immune to shadow ball and being faster than most ( all? ) physical ghost-types. Also helps Scizor with the resistance to ground and rock. I'm not sure if I should keep Pain Split or use leech seed/synthesis.
Ouch... Swagger is something the BM loves to use and it's incredibly annoying.
Gonna see how far I can get in Doubles (still on 51 after my win, haven't touched it then) with a team of MKangaskhan, Dual Screen Espeon, Gyarados and Sylveon.
I went back and forth between Wood Hammer and Energy ball for a while... I'm still not really sure which is better. Earthquake is definitely a more accurate option for dealing with Heatran though.
A few calcs on the Ice/Water Types:
6 Atk Mega Abomasnow Wood Hammer vs. 0 HP / 252+ Def Walrein: 134-158 (72.4 - 85.4%)
252+ SpA Mega Abomasnow Energy Ball vs. 0 HP / 252 SpD Walrein: 146-174 (78.9 - 94%)
6 Atk Mega Abomasnow Wood Hammer vs. 170 HP / 170+ Def Dewgong: 156-186 (83.8 - 100%)
252+ SpA Mega Abomasnow Energy Ball vs. 170 HP / 170 SpD Dewgong: 152-180 (81.7 - 96.7%)
6 Atk Mega Abomasnow Wood Hammer vs. 6 HP / 252+ Def Lapras: 144-170 (69.9 - 82.5%)
252+ SpA Mega Abomasnow Energy Ball vs. 6 HP / 252 SpD Lapras: 140-168 (67.9 - 81.5%)
(not including Cloyster because energy ball is so obviously better)
So I guess Energy Ball is (technically) better, but that could be fixed by adding some more Attack EVs to Abomasnow. Also, Wood Hammer will pretty much always hit Tentacruel harder (with whom my leads have a hard time). Earthquake could be an option there, since it gets the added benefit of murdering Heatran.
Good luck! Lemme know how your team turns out, mine's on 135 and still going strong!
I just lost in Super Doubles after 99 battles. :( 100th battle, in which I lose because of tiptoeing around a CB Aero: 8R5W-WWWW-WWW3-7FGD
I basically took the backups from my Exploud attempt a few pages ago and tacked a couple other mons on. The final product:
Garchomp @ Lum Berry
Rough Skin
Jolly, 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
- Protect
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
Togekiss @ Leftovers
Serene Grace
Modest, 60 HP / 252 SpA / 196 Spe
- Roost
- Dazzling Gleam
- Air Slash
- Aura Sphere
Rotom-W @ Chesto Berry
Levitate
Modest, 232 HP / 56 SpA / 220 Spe
- Thunderbolt
- Hydro Pump
- Will-O-Wisp
- Rest
Talonflame @ Sky Plate
Gale Wings
Adamant, 184 HP / 252 Atk / 72 Spe
- Brave Bird
- Flare Blitz
- Bulk Up
- Roost
Nothing too special, just EQ spam Garchomp and three Ground-immune teammates to work with. Togekiss brings spread moves to the party, Talonflame has strong priority, and Rotom handles Water-types that could otherwise give me trouble. The only set that's really "doubles-y" is Garchomp's; I didn't bother putting Protect on anything else or Discharge on Rotom. As is, I barely used Protect, Roost (on either), Will-O-Wisp, Rest, or Bulk Up. Protect would have been really nice on Rotom in the 100th battle. It sucks to lose at 99, but at least I beat Evelyn (and forgot to save the video).
I basically took the backups from my Exploud attempt a few pages ago and tacked a couple other mons on. The final product:
Garchomp @ Lum Berry
Rough Skin
Jolly, 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
- Protect
- Dragon Claw
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
Togekiss @ Leftovers
Serene Grace
Modest, 60 HP / 252 SpA / 196 Spe
- Roost
- Dazzling Gleam
- Air Slash
- Aura Sphere
Rotom-W @ Chesto Berry
Levitate
Modest, 232 HP / 56 SpA / 220 Spe
- Thunderbolt
- Hydro Pump
- Will-O-Wisp
- Rest
Talonflame @ Sky Plate
Gale Wings
Adamant, 184 HP / 252 Atk / 72 Spe
- Brave Bird
- Flare Blitz
- Bulk Up
- Roost
Nothing too special, just EQ spam Garchomp and three Ground-immune teammates to work with. Togekiss brings spread moves to the party, Talonflame has strong priority, and Rotom handles Water-types that could otherwise give me trouble. The only set that's really "doubles-y" is Garchomp's; I didn't bother putting Protect on anything else or Discharge on Rotom. As is, I barely used Protect, Roost (on either), Will-O-Wisp, Rest, or Bulk Up. Protect would have been really nice on Rotom in the 100th battle. It sucks to lose at 99, but at least I beat Evelyn (and forgot to save the video).
I'm having some trouble with the Truant Durant set in Super Singles. I was using lolnubs setup from a few pages back:
http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/battle-maison-discussion-records.3492706/page-17#post-4977903
What do you do against pokemon that have detect/protect and alternate them vs your durant (ie protect/detect on every turn your truant is active)? Switch to your 3rd pokemon and hope for the best?
http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/battle-maison-discussion-records.3492706/page-17#post-4977903
What do you do against pokemon that have detect/protect and alternate them vs your durant (ie protect/detect on every turn your truant is active)? Switch to your 3rd pokemon and hope for the best?
That is what he said he does:
not sure if this has been posted before but it just got me over the 40 battle hump: If Aegislash is put to sleep, you can still attempt to use King's Shield and switch yourself into Shield Forme. You won't get the protect effect, but you can reduce the damage you take while you wait to wake up.
Tenta is no big deal since if it proves to be a pain just give Aromatisse Psychic/Psyshock to bash it in, and I doubt Heatranny likes a Focus Blast or Waterfall/Aqua Jet to the face anyway lol. Energy ball probably is the better option since it has no recoil, I just wish Giga Drain was a thing...(damn Trollbank!). Beyond that, on the Heatran thing, you could always bring in TTar if it is out of Azumarril's reach (WoW stinks but you get my point).
I've updated the OP with the new records.
BlueEew if you want me to post your record in the OP please provide more information then the streak length.
I gave Super Doubles a second go to try and break my own record.
I lost at #161 because Duclops got flinched 4 times in a row. I started Super Triples after that immediately to try something new.
I'm at 110 right now so nothing too great yet. It's alot of fun but the battles take slightly longer and the lag can be annoying every now and then.
BlueEew if you want me to post your record in the OP please provide more information then the streak length.
I gave Super Doubles a second go to try and break my own record.
I lost at #161 because Duclops got flinched 4 times in a row. I started Super Triples after that immediately to try something new.
I'm at 110 right now so nothing too great yet. It's alot of fun but the battles take slightly longer and the lag can be annoying every now and then.