BBP Bug and Feedback Thread
This thread is meant to act as an aggregator and checklist for BBP Leadership, helping to track and squash bugs in the game's system that inhibit play.
When making a feedback post, please DO:
Error Reports
Just about every line of information in BBP is hand-written. With this comes human error. If you find a typo, missing word, or inconsistency (such as "two (1)" in an effect or rule), post it in this thread.
Questions and Feedback
If you have a question about the strategy usage of a certain game element, or the intentions behind a piece or rule working a certain way, the best place to ask would be the Casual Discussion Thread. If your question has been asked before, other users will be able to point you to the answer. If your question is new, the community can discuss it and seek an answer together.
If there is a balance concern, discuss the severity and scope of the issue in the Casual Discussion Thread first. Then, if no solution is found with existing game pieces, or if the only available answers are inferior to the threat in question (such as a move that demands multiple item responses, and the same item responses, every match), it is appropriate to have a single user post here for a response.
Often, the procedure will be for moderators to participate in the balance discussion in the Casual Discussion Thread (we're players too, after all), and then subsequently open a dedicated Feedback in the BBP Policy Center for more focused discussion if it is deemed necessary. It will only be necessary to post a feedback post for a balance issue in periods of mod inactivity, such as near the holidays when most users are more occupied in real life.
Ruling Requests
When a staked or competitive match hangs on a rules interpretation, players should ask the referee for interpretation in usual cases.
Referees seeking a rules manager's clarification, when pieces and/or rules contradict themselves or when the referee cannot find an interpretation that they are confident in, should post in this thread with a link to the situation and a brief description of the issue.
Rulings issued by moderators are final unless reversed by the head moderator. Even if the issue is later patched, and the patch differs from the ruling given in the moment, that ruling stands for the specific situation instance for which it was issued. This is to ensure matches can proceed at pace, even while that issue's long-term solution is deliberated elsewhere.
Serious Grievances
We take a great deal of pride in BBP's welcoming and accepting playerbase. That said, as an online game, we must still be vigilant for malicious actors, who may see this kindness as an invitation to prowl.
If you should have such an issue in BBP, involving any user's safety or comfort, please message the collective BBP moderation team on the Smogon Forum immediately and privately. If you're uncertain if what you are seeing is a safety issue, please err on the side of caution and reach out.
Knock on wood, we won't have to field one of these for many years to come.
Persons in Charge
To determine who to field your request or report to, refer to the current BBP Leadership roster.
Archived Predecessors to this Thread
Generation 8 Feedback Thread - Essentially the casual balance discussion thread, in practice.
Mechanical Rulings Thread - We used to just toss IRC or Discord rulings made off-hand here.
Implementation Thread - Patch notes for the Handbook and DAT were posted here.
Generation 8.3 Update - We used to do our big revisions, such as for game releases, in their own threads.
BBP Policy Centre* Rules - Antique cultural heritage. Visit once during your BBP career to pay respects.
This thread is meant to act as an aggregator and checklist for BBP Leadership, helping to track and squash bugs in the game's system that inhibit play.
When making a feedback post, please DO:
- Tag the user in charge of that text item. A moderator for the DAT, a Facility's owner for a Facility rule, etc.
- Describe the error.
- Describe the location of the error. ("Rule 2.3 in the Handbook" or "In the text of Bluk Berry".)
- Tag a user for content that they do not manage.
- Post addendums or replies to the reports of others. This thread is a to-do list, not a discussion venue.
- Prescribe how to correct the error. ("Actually, because this strategy is underused, you should make this say three (3) instead of two (1).")
Error Reports
Just about every line of information in BBP is hand-written. With this comes human error. If you find a typo, missing word, or inconsistency (such as "two (1)" in an effect or rule), post it in this thread.
Questions and Feedback
If you have a question about the strategy usage of a certain game element, or the intentions behind a piece or rule working a certain way, the best place to ask would be the Casual Discussion Thread. If your question has been asked before, other users will be able to point you to the answer. If your question is new, the community can discuss it and seek an answer together.
If there is a balance concern, discuss the severity and scope of the issue in the Casual Discussion Thread first. Then, if no solution is found with existing game pieces, or if the only available answers are inferior to the threat in question (such as a move that demands multiple item responses, and the same item responses, every match), it is appropriate to have a single user post here for a response.
Often, the procedure will be for moderators to participate in the balance discussion in the Casual Discussion Thread (we're players too, after all), and then subsequently open a dedicated Feedback in the BBP Policy Center for more focused discussion if it is deemed necessary. It will only be necessary to post a feedback post for a balance issue in periods of mod inactivity, such as near the holidays when most users are more occupied in real life.
Ruling Requests
When a staked or competitive match hangs on a rules interpretation, players should ask the referee for interpretation in usual cases.
Referees seeking a rules manager's clarification, when pieces and/or rules contradict themselves or when the referee cannot find an interpretation that they are confident in, should post in this thread with a link to the situation and a brief description of the issue.
Rulings issued by moderators are final unless reversed by the head moderator. Even if the issue is later patched, and the patch differs from the ruling given in the moment, that ruling stands for the specific situation instance for which it was issued. This is to ensure matches can proceed at pace, even while that issue's long-term solution is deliberated elsewhere.
Serious Grievances
We take a great deal of pride in BBP's welcoming and accepting playerbase. That said, as an online game, we must still be vigilant for malicious actors, who may see this kindness as an invitation to prowl.
If you should have such an issue in BBP, involving any user's safety or comfort, please message the collective BBP moderation team on the Smogon Forum immediately and privately. If you're uncertain if what you are seeing is a safety issue, please err on the side of caution and reach out.
Knock on wood, we won't have to field one of these for many years to come.
Persons in Charge
To determine who to field your request or report to, refer to the current BBP Leadership roster.
Archived Predecessors to this Thread
Generation 8 Feedback Thread - Essentially the casual balance discussion thread, in practice.
Mechanical Rulings Thread - We used to just toss IRC or Discord rulings made off-hand here.
Implementation Thread - Patch notes for the Handbook and DAT were posted here.
Generation 8.3 Update - We used to do our big revisions, such as for game releases, in their own threads.
BBP Policy Centre* Rules - Antique cultural heritage. Visit once during your BBP career to pay respects.
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