At least Obi and I are of the opinion that nothing really can be decided until the UU metagame has been played, for months, with a comprehensive pokemon usage system in place for all pokemon. This has been my stance for months — there just is no way to accurately tier a lot of the more borderline pokemon until every is certain on not just what is too powerful for UU, but what actually belongs there in the first in the first place (what is really overused and what isn't) since it honestly does not matter whether a power-that-be sees less Abomasnow or more Milotic than popular opinion may have the community believe.
I wasn't sure an actual thread was going to accomplish anything , but chaos wanted to have a thread about it either way but this is one of the instances in which talk really is cheap. I don't know if "we" are waiting for Competitor or what, but there is no use in trying to pretend that a handful of knowledgeable pokemon minds can effectively shape all of the tiers of competitive pokemon.