Hm. seems logical, but who should I put toxic on? (it's not anywhere in my team) Maybe I could do the tri-attack/Hpwater and replace TR with it.I personally found CM / Surf or Scald / Rest / Sub to be the best, but many have been using Ice Beam instead of Sub. Sub stalls out so much more with much more assurance though. Like P2+Sally+Suicune still has a rock weakness but no resist, but Suicune can PP-stall Stone-Edge and Rockslides with much more ease with sub.