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Doesn't count because you have to hit two blizzards and the cumulative chance of that is less than 70% (look in the first post).

"7. Moves with at least 70% accuracy over the number of turns needed will always count as hitting."
no it isn't, you have to hit 2 blizzards over 2 turns. You add the accuracy and divide by the number of turns. 140/2= 70%
 
no it isn't, you have to hit 2 blizzards over 2 turns. You add the accuracy and divide by the number of turns. 140/2= 70%
I am... almost certain that shouldn't be how it works.

Hitting two focus blasts is less likely than hitting one dynamic punch (49% versus 50%), but treating one like it's a reliable check but not the other seems very strange.

Also, the post where pqs explained his thinking was about a similar situation (Durant hitting multiple turns in a row) and seems to confirm that a string of 80% accurate moves doesn't count as 'reliable'. (https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/break-my-team-cycle-8-swsh.3658749/page-2#post-8342041)
 
I am... almost certain that shouldn't be how it works.

Hitting two focus blasts is less likely than hitting one dynamic punch (49% versus 50%), but treating one like it's a reliable check but not the other seems very strange.

Also, the post where pqs explained his thinking was about a similar situation (Durant hitting multiple turns in a row) and seems to confirm that a string of 80% accurate moves doesn't count as 'reliable'. (https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/break-my-team-cycle-8-swsh.3658749/page-2#post-8342041)
Yeah, the rule is controversial and seems to be in need of reworking or rewording.
 

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no it isn't, you have to hit 2 blizzards over 2 turns. You add the accuracy and divide by the number of turns. 140/2= 70%
The probability of subsequent events is the product of their probabilities. The likelihood of hitting two 70% accuracy moves is .7 * .7 = .49 = 49% chance.
 
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Wanted to do hitmontop, but my original idea (liechi berry HJK) was both boring and a bit RNG-dependent. So instead, here's White Herb Work Up Covet Hitmontop!

Power (Hitmontop) (M) @ White Herb
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 188 HP / 232 Atk / 88 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Fake Out
- Close Combat
- Covet
- Work Up

Versus Goodra, White Herb lets you avoid the 2hko from Acid Spray into Draco Meteor, and none of goodra's other options (Sludge --> Draco and Draco --> Draco) kill you. Work Up twice, then kill with Close Combat. Make sure NOT to Fake Out!
124 SpA Goodra Acid Spray vs. 188 HP / 0 SpD Hitmontop: 33-39 (11.4 - 13.5%) -- possible 8HKO
124 SpA Goodra Sludge Wave vs. 188 HP / 0 SpD Hitmontop: 77-91 (26.7 - 31.5%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
124 SpA Goodra Draco Meteor vs. 188 HP / 0 SpD Hitmontop: 157-186 (54.5 - 64.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
-2 124 SpA Goodra Draco Meteor vs. 188 HP / 0 SpD Hitmontop: 78-93 (27 - 32.2%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
+2 232+ Atk Hitmontop Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 128 Def Goodra: 387-456 (100.7 - 118.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Versus Avalugg, Fake Out T1, then spam Close Combat. You 2hko after chip (5.4+47.7+47.7=100.8), and thanks to White Herb CC doesn't lower your defenses, allowing you to survive any counterattack (note how Body Press can kill if you're at -1 defense).
232+ Atk Hitmontop Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 252+ Def Avalugg: 18-22 (5.4 - 6.6%) -- possibly the worst move ever
232+ Atk Hitmontop Close Combat vs. 0 HP / 252+ Def Avalugg: 158-188 (47.7 - 56.7%) -- 87.5% chance to 2HKO
-1 252 Atk Choice Band Avalugg Icicle Spear (3 hits) vs. 188 HP / 0 Def Hitmontop: 120-144 (41.6 - 50%) -- approx. 0.4% chance to 2HKO
252+ Def Choice Band Avalugg Body Press vs. 188 HP / 0 Def Hitmontop: 195-230 (67.7 - 79.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Versus Incineroar, use the White Herb to block Intimidate. Fake Out for chip, Covet to get rid of its chople berry in the funniest possible way, then CC and win (8.9+13.2+78=100.1).
232+ Atk Hitmontop Fake Out vs. 152 HP / 252 Def Incineroar: 33-39 (8.9 - 10.5%) -- possibly the worst move ever
232+ Atk Hitmontop Covet vs. 152 HP / 252 Def Incineroar: 49-58 (13.2 - 15.7%) -- possible 7HKO
232+ Atk Hitmontop Close Combat vs. 152 HP / 252 Def Incineroar: 288-342 (78 - 92.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
-1 104+ Atk Incineroar Flare Blitz vs. 188 HP / 0 Def Hitmontop: 123-145 (42.7 - 50.3%) -- 1.6% chance to 2HKO
 
Corviknight @ Occa Berry
Ability: Mirror Armor
EVs: 252 Def / 112 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Flash Cannon
- Iron Defense
- Body Press
- Roost

V.S Goodra
Flash Cannon then get to +6 and body press, roost if you get low.
124 SpA Goodra Draco Meteor vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Corviknight: 97-115 (28.7 - 34.1%) -- 2.3% chance to 3HKO
0 SpA Corviknight Flash Cannon vs. 248 HP / 0+ SpD Goodra: 33-40 (8.6 - 10.4%) -- possibly the worst move ever
+6 252+ Def Corviknight Body Press vs. 248 HP / 132 Def Goodra: 371-437 (96.8 - 114%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO


V.S Avalugg
Flash Cannon
0 SpA Corviknight Flash Cannon vs. 8 HP / 0- SpD Avalugg: 212-252 (63.6 - 75.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
248+ Def Choice Band Avalugg Body Press vs. 0 HP / 252+ Def Corviknight: 130-154 (38.5 - 45.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 Atk Choice Band Avalugg Icicle Spear (5 hits) vs. 0 HP / 252+ Def Corviknight: 200-240 (59.3 - 71.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO


V.S Incineroar
Iron defense then body press x2
-1 104+ Atk Incineroar Flare Blitz vs. +2 0 HP / 252+ Def Occa Berry Corviknight: 42-49 (12.4 - 14.5%) -- possible 7HKO
+2 252+ Def Corviknight Body Press vs. 152 HP / 252 Def Chople Berry Incineroar: 140-165 (37.9 - 44.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
-1 104+ Atk Incineroar Flare Blitz vs. +2 0 HP / 252+ Def Corviknight: 84-98 (24.9 - 29%) -- 99.9% chance to 4HKO
+2 252+ Def Corviknight Body Press vs. 152 HP / 252 Def Incineroar: 280-330 (75.8 - 89.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
 
Hawlucha @ White Herb
Ability: Mold Breaker
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Def
Brave Nature
- Focus Blast
- High Jump Kick
- Swords Dance

V.S Goodra
SD into HJK
124 SpA Goodra Draco Meteor vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Hawlucha: 247-292 (83.1 - 98.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 252+ Atk Mold Breaker Hawlucha High Jump Kick vs. 248 HP / 132 Def Goodra: 415-489 (108.3 - 127.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO


V.S Avalugg
So anyway I started blasting
0 SpA Mold Breaker Hawlucha Focus Blast vs. 8 HP / 0- SpD Avalugg: 414-488 (124.3 - 146.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO


V.S Incineroar
HJK x2
104+ Atk Incineroar Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 252 Def Hawlucha: 38-45 (12.7 - 15.1%) -- possible 7HKO
252+ Atk Mold Breaker Hawlucha High Jump Kick vs. 152 HP / 252 Def Chople Berry Incineroar: 156-184 (42.2 - 49.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
104+ Atk Incineroar Flare Blitz vs. 0 HP / 252 Def Hawlucha: 166-196 (55.8 - 65.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Mold Breaker Hawlucha High Jump Kick vs. 152 HP / 252 Def Incineroar: 312-368 (84.5 - 99.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
 
Sylveon @ Babiri Berry
Ability: Pixilate
EVs: 252 Def / 88 SpA / 168 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Hyper Beam
- Hyper Voice

V.S Goodra
Voice into beam
88 SpA Pixilate Sylveon Hyper Voice vs. 248 HP / 0+ SpD Goodra: 176-210 (45.9 - 54.8%) -- 53.5% chance to 2HKO
124 SpA Goodra Sludge Wave vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Sylveon: 134-158 (40.4 - 47.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
88 SpA Pixilate Sylveon Hyper Beam vs. 248 HP / 0+ SpD Goodra: 290-344 (75.7 - 89.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO


V.S Avalugg
Voice x2
88 SpA Pixilate Sylveon Hyper Voice vs. 8 HP / 0- SpD Avalugg: 280-331 (84 - 99.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Choice Band Avalugg Heavy Slam (120 BP) vs. 0 HP / 252+ Def Babiri Berry Sylveon: 171-202 (51.6 - 61%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Choice Band Avalugg Icicle Spear (5 hits) vs. 0 HP / 252+ Def Sylveon: 270-320 (81.5 - 96.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO


V.S Incineroar
Voice into beam
104+ Atk Incineroar Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 252+ Def Sylveon: 37-44 (11.1 - 13.2%) -- possible 8HKO
88 SpA Pixilate Sylveon Hyper Voice vs. 152 HP / 0 SpD Incineroar: 150-177 (40.6 - 47.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
104+ Atk Incineroar Flare Blitz vs. 0 HP / 252+ Def Sylveon: 165-195 (49.8 - 58.9%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO
88 SpA Pixilate Sylveon Hyper Beam vs. 152 HP / 0 SpD Incineroar: 249-294 (67.4 - 79.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
 

Introducing: Brionne!
:Brionne:
Brionne @ Eviolite
Ability: Liquid Voice
EVs: 192 HP / 140 SpD / 176 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Toxic
- Protect
- Substitute
- Hyper Voice

Incineroar :Incineroar:
104+ Atk Incineroar Fake Out vs. 192 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Brionne: 36-43 (11.6 - 13.9%) -- possible 8HKO
104+ Atk Incineroar Darkest Lariat vs. 192 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Brionne: 112-133 (36.3 - 43.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

0 SpA Liquid Voice Brionne Hyper Voice vs. 152 HP / 0 SpD Incineroar: 198-234 (53.6 - 63.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
104+ Atk Incineroar Darkest Lariat vs. 192 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Brionne: 112-133 (36.3 - 43.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
0 SpA Liquid Voice Brionne Hyper Voice vs. 152 HP / 0 SpD Incineroar: 198-234 (53.6 - 63.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Avalugg :Avalugg:
0 SpA Liquid Voice Brionne Hyper Voice vs. 8 HP / 0- SpD Avalugg: 184-217 (55.2 - 65.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
248+ Def Choice Band Avalugg Body Press vs. 192 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Brionne: 169-199 (54.8 - 64.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
0 SpA Liquid Voice Brionne Hyper Voice vs. 8 HP / 0- SpD Avalugg: 184-217 (55.2 - 65.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Goodra :Goodra:
Speed EV's outspeed goodra by one point, Sub T1, all of Goodra's moves can't break it except draco meteor.
In both scenarios, toxic stall with prot+sub while making sure to always have a sub up.
NO

theres 1 viable set. rest, scald, charm, confide
 

Arctovish @ Choice Specs
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 HP / 144 Def / 96 SpA / 16 SpD
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Surf
- Ice Beam

Incineroar:
I don't know how I could think of something so ugly for this. Incineroar is somewhat faster but that is not always an advantage. Arctovish has good defense and hp base. This is the worst fit.
104+ Atk Incineroar Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 144 Def Arctovish: 153-180 (39.8 - 46.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

with surf
96+ SpA Choice Specs Arctovish Surf vs. 152 HP / 0 SpD Incineroar: 326-386 (88.3 - 104.6%) -- 25% chance to OHKO

• Avalugg:
Avalugg unlike the others does not fit very well but it is thought. The weak point here is Body Press which does the following.
248+ Def Choice Band Avalugg Body Press vs. 252 HP / 144 Def Arctovish: 324-382 (84.3 - 99.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
luckily also avalugg is a slow pokemon with a poor special defense. With Surf being faster.
96+ SpA Choice Specs Arctovish Surf vs. 8 HP / 0- SpD Avalugg: 306-360 (91.8 - 108.1%) -- 50% chance to OHKO


• Goodra:
Goodra boasts a very good special defense unlike the previous one. Still we will try to comply. This makes me DM.
124 SpA Goodra Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 16 SpD Arctovish: 183-216 (47.6 - 56.2%) -- 82% chance to 2HKO
having only two options my answer here is Ice Beam where I do this.
96+ SpA Choice Specs Arctovish Ice Beam vs. 248 HP / 0+ SpD Goodra: 192-228 (50.1 - 59.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
While it pains me to say this because i love the fossil mons, Goodra can just acid spray turn 1 and kill with draco the next turn ;-;
 
Honestly, I didn't look at this enough so I hope this works.
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Lapras @ Never-Melt Ice
Ability: Shell Armor
EVs: 8 HP / 252 Def / 36 SpA / 44 SpD / 168 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Substitute
- Rest
- Ice Beam
- Surf

vs. goodra sub spam into ice beam
124 SpA Goodra Sludge Wave vs. 8 HP / 44 SpD Lapras: 83-98 (20.5 - 24.3%) -- guaranteed 5HKO
124 SpA Goodra Draco Meteor vs. 8 HP / 44 SpD Lapras: 169-201 (41.9 - 49.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
-2 124 SpA Goodra Draco Meteor vs. 8 HP / 44 SpD Lapras: 84-100 (20.8 - 24.8%) -- guaranteed 5HKO

36+ SpA Never-Melt Ice Lapras Ice Beam vs. 248 HP / 0+ SpD Goodra: 152-180 (39.6 - 46.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

vs. thugg surf twice
248+ Def Choice Band Avalugg Body Press vs. 8 HP / 252 Def Lapras: 340-402 (84.3 - 99.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
36+ SpA Lapras Surf vs. 8 HP / 0- SpD Avalugg: 199-235 (59.7 - 70.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO


vs. incine surf twice
36+ SpA Lapras Surf vs. 152 HP / 0 SpD Incineroar: 212-252 (57.4 - 68.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

104+ Atk Incineroar Flare Blitz vs. 8 HP / 252 Def Lapras: 160-189 (39.7 - 46.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
 
Solrock @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 176 HP / 244 Atk / 88 Spe
Naughty Nature
- Stone Edge
- Ancient Power
- Swords Dance

Swords Dance and Stone Edge vs Goodra.
124 SpA Goodra Draco Meteor vs. 176 HP / 0- SpD Solrock: 270-318 (73.9 - 87.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+2 244+ Atk Life Orb Solrock Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 128+ Def Goodra: 386-456 (100.5 - 118.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Ancient Power twice vs Avalugg
0 SpA Life Orb Solrock Ancient Power vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Avalugg: 195-229 (58.9 - 69.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Choice Band Avalugg Heavy Slam (80 BP) vs. 176 HP / 0 Def Solrock: 278-328 (76.1 - 89.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Swords Dance and Stone Edge vs 'roar.
104+ Atk Incineroar Fake Out vs. 176 HP / 0 Def Solrock: 22-27 (6 - 7.3%) -- possibly the worst move ever
104+ Atk Incineroar Darkest Lariat vs. 176 HP / 0 Def Solrock: 288-338 (78.9 - 92.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+1 244+ Atk Life Orb Solrock Stone Edge vs. 152 HP / 252 Def Incineroar: 476-562 (128.9 - 152.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 
Tyranitar
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 SpA / 160 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Ancient Power
- Protect
- Ice Beam

Avalugg: Protect to break sturdy with sand chip and then knock it out with ancient power
252+ SpA Tyranitar Ancient Power vs. 8 HP / 0- SpD Avalugg: 356-420 (106.9 - 126.1%)

Goodra: Protect and then ice beam three times. It's very unlikely (but possible) for Goodra to be able to live three ice beams with sand but protecting for another turn of chip guarantees the KO.
252+ SpA Tyranitar Ice Beam vs. 248 HP / 0+ SpD Goodra: 112-132 (29.2 - 34.4%)
124 SpA Goodra Acid Spray vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Tyranitar in Sand: 12-14 (3.5 - 4.1%)
124 SpA Goodra Draco Meteor vs. -2 0 HP / 0 SpD Tyranitar in Sand: 228-268 (66.8 - 78.5%)

Incineroar: Ancient Power is a clean 2hko and it can hardly touch you back.
252+ SpA Tyranitar Ancient Power vs. 152 HP / 0 SpD Incineroar: 188-224 (50.9 - 60.7%)
104+ Atk Incineroar Flare Blitz vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tyranitar: 81-96 (23.7 - 28.1%)
 
Long post time!
Here's one where Shuckle can kill Goodra and Incineroar consistently. I tried my hardest, but I could only get a 2/3 win rate against Avalugg.
I spent way too long on this.

Shuckle @ Weakness Policy
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 196 HP / 248 Def / 64 Spe
Impish Nature
- Power Split
- Power Trick
- Rock Blast
- Stone Edge

Goodra:
Shuckle takes at most 42% from the first Draco Meteor. Draco Meteor is the only move Goodra can really use to hurt the tank that is Shuckle. They could go for Acid spray too, but that wastes turns that shuckle uses to kill them. Shuckle uses power trick because Goodra has no physical moves.

Because Draco Meteor lowers SpA when it is used, Goodra practically can’t kill shuckle here:
124 SpA Goodra Draco Meteor over 5 turns vs. 196 HP / 0 SpD Shuckle: 103-122 (44.7 - 53%) -- not a KO
Even with acid spray:
124 SpA Goodra Draco Meteor over 5 turns vs. -2 196 HP / 0 SpD Shuckle: 204-241 (88.6 - 104.7%) -- 25% chance to 5HKO

Compare this to shuckle:
50+ Atk Shuckle Stone Edge vs. 248 HP / 132 Def Goodra: 315-372 (82.2 - 97.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Shuckle wins this fight.


Avalugg:
This probably shouldn’t count but I’m posting it anyway for the shuckle memes.

Shuckle Power Tricks. Then, Avalugg uses Heavy Slam to bring him to 1HP thanks to sturdy.

Shuckle uses a weakness policy, reaching 614+2 attack and barely faster than Avalugg.

Shuckle uses Rock blast to win with about a ⅔ chance to win. This was the best I could do with shuckle.
+2 48+ Atk Shuckle Rock Blast (3 hits) vs. 8 HP / 248+ Def Avalugg: 348-420 (104.5 - 126.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO


Incineroar:

Shuckle takes 3.7% at most on the first turn from fake out.
He then takes at most 33.3% from Flare Blitz on the turn he uses power split.

Shuckle is now at lowest 63% if both are high rolls.

After using Power Split on Incineroar, they both have 173 attack.
Shuckle can now use Stone edge to 3HKO.
0 Atk Shuckle Stone Edge vs. 152 HP / 252 Def Incineroar: 134-162 (36.3 - 43.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
This doesn't even include recoil, that helps shuckle to win even more.

Incineroar can at best 4HKO with Flare Blitz after Power Split. (This is after previous damage.)
4+ Atk Incineroar Flare Blitz vs. 196 HP / 248+ Def Shuckle: 37-45 (16 - 19.5%) -- guaranteed 4HKO


(Important final note: the varying EVs and Natures come from me changing Shuckle’s base stats in the damage calculator to make his attack and defense after Power Trick/Split equal to what they would be in game)
Sorry for the long post, had to meme lol.
 
Long post time!
Here's one where Shuckle can kill Goodra and Incineroar consistently. I tried my hardest, but I could only get a 2/3 win rate against Avalugg.
I spent way too long on this.

Shuckle @ Weakness Policy
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 196 HP / 248 Def / 64 Spe
Impish Nature
- Power Split
- Power Trick
- Rock Blast
- Stone Edge

Goodra:
Shuckle takes at most 42% from the first Draco Meteor. Draco Meteor is the only move Goodra can really use to hurt the tank that is Shuckle. They could go for Acid spray too, but that wastes turns that shuckle uses to kill them. Shuckle uses power trick because Goodra has no physical moves.

Because Draco Meteor lowers SpA when it is used, Goodra practically can’t kill shuckle here:
124 SpA Goodra Draco Meteor over 5 turns vs. 196 HP / 0 SpD Shuckle: 103-122 (44.7 - 53%) -- not a KO
Even with acid spray:
124 SpA Goodra Draco Meteor over 5 turns vs. -2 196 HP / 0 SpD Shuckle: 204-241 (88.6 - 104.7%) -- 25% chance to 5HKO

Compare this to shuckle:
50+ Atk Shuckle Stone Edge vs. 248 HP / 132 Def Goodra: 315-372 (82.2 - 97.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Shuckle wins this fight.


Avalugg:
This probably shouldn’t count but I’m posting it anyway for the shuckle memes.

Shuckle Power Tricks. Then, Avalugg uses Heavy Slam to bring him to 1HP thanks to sturdy.

Shuckle uses a weakness policy, reaching 614+2 attack and barely faster than Avalugg.

Shuckle uses Rock blast to win with about a ⅔ chance to win. This was the best I could do with shuckle.
+2 48+ Atk Shuckle Rock Blast (3 hits) vs. 8 HP / 248+ Def Avalugg: 348-420 (104.5 - 126.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO


Incineroar:

Shuckle takes 3.7% at most on the first turn from fake out.
He then takes at most 33.3% from Flare Blitz on the turn he uses power split.

Shuckle is now at lowest 63% if both are high rolls.

After using Power Split on Incineroar, they both have 173 attack.
Shuckle can now use Stone edge to 3HKO.
0 Atk Shuckle Stone Edge vs. 152 HP / 252 Def Incineroar: 134-162 (36.3 - 43.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
This doesn't even include recoil, that helps shuckle to win even more.

Incineroar can at best 4HKO with Flare Blitz after Power Split. (This is after previous damage.)
4+ Atk Incineroar Flare Blitz vs. 196 HP / 248+ Def Shuckle: 37-45 (16 - 19.5%) -- guaranteed 4HKO


(Important final note: the varying EVs and Natures come from me changing Shuckle’s base stats in the damage calculator to make his attack and defense after Power Trick/Split equal to what they would be in game)
Sorry for the long post, had to meme lol.
Wouldn’t contrary on shuckle just be 100% better and remove any suspicion from the goodra MU? Good post.
 
Long post time!
Here's one where Shuckle can kill Goodra and Incineroar consistently. I tried my hardest, but I could only get a 2/3 win rate against Avalugg.
I spent way too long on this.

Shuckle @ Weakness Policy
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 196 HP / 248 Def / 64 Spe
Impish Nature
- Power Split
- Power Trick
- Rock Blast
- Stone Edge

Goodra:
Shuckle takes at most 42% from the first Draco Meteor. Draco Meteor is the only move Goodra can really use to hurt the tank that is Shuckle. They could go for Acid spray too, but that wastes turns that shuckle uses to kill them. Shuckle uses power trick because Goodra has no physical moves.

Because Draco Meteor lowers SpA when it is used, Goodra practically can’t kill shuckle here:
124 SpA Goodra Draco Meteor over 5 turns vs. 196 HP / 0 SpD Shuckle: 103-122 (44.7 - 53%) -- not a KO
Even with acid spray:
124 SpA Goodra Draco Meteor over 5 turns vs. -2 196 HP / 0 SpD Shuckle: 204-241 (88.6 - 104.7%) -- 25% chance to 5HKO

Compare this to shuckle:
50+ Atk Shuckle Stone Edge vs. 248 HP / 132 Def Goodra: 315-372 (82.2 - 97.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Shuckle wins this fight.


Avalugg:
This probably shouldn’t count but I’m posting it anyway for the shuckle memes.

Shuckle Power Tricks. Then, Avalugg uses Heavy Slam to bring him to 1HP thanks to sturdy.

Shuckle uses a weakness policy, reaching 614+2 attack and barely faster than Avalugg.

Shuckle uses Rock blast to win with about a ⅔ chance to win. This was the best I could do with shuckle.
+2 48+ Atk Shuckle Rock Blast (3 hits) vs. 8 HP / 248+ Def Avalugg: 348-420 (104.5 - 126.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO


Incineroar:

Shuckle takes 3.7% at most on the first turn from fake out.
He then takes at most 33.3% from Flare Blitz on the turn he uses power split.

Shuckle is now at lowest 63% if both are high rolls.

After using Power Split on Incineroar, they both have 173 attack.
Shuckle can now use Stone edge to 3HKO.
0 Atk Shuckle Stone Edge vs. 152 HP / 252 Def Incineroar: 134-162 (36.3 - 43.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
This doesn't even include recoil, that helps shuckle to win even more.

Incineroar can at best 4HKO with Flare Blitz after Power Split. (This is after previous damage.)
4+ Atk Incineroar Flare Blitz vs. 196 HP / 248+ Def Shuckle: 37-45 (16 - 19.5%) -- guaranteed 4HKO


(Important final note: the varying EVs and Natures come from me changing Shuckle’s base stats in the damage calculator to make his attack and defense after Power Trick/Split equal to what they would be in game)
Sorry for the long post, had to meme lol.
Does goodra not win by acid spraying twice and then using draco meteor?
124+ SpA Goodra Draco Meteor vs. -4 196 HP / 0 SpD Shuckle: 267-315 (116 - 136.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 
idk why im here but im here

:dragapult:
Dragapult @ Haban Berry
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 60 Def / 252 SpA / 196 Spe
Lax Nature
- Protect
- Disable
- Dragon Darts
- Surf

0 Atk Dragapult Dragon Darts (2 hits) vs. 248 HP / 132 Def Haban Berry Goodra: 144-170 (37.5 - 44.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
0 Atk Dragapult Dragon Darts (2 hits) vs. 248 HP / 132 Def Goodra: 288-340 (75.1 - 88.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
124 SpA Goodra Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 0- SpD Haban Berry Dragapult: 240-283 (63.1 - 74.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

dragapult protect + disable against avalugg
252 SpA Dragapult Surf vs. 8 HP / 0 SpD Avalugg: 151-178 (45.3 - 53.4%) -- 35.5% chance to 2HKO

252 SpA Dragapult Surf vs. 152 HP / 0 SpD Incineroar: 180-212 (48.7 - 57.4%) -- 94.1% chance to 2HKO
104+ Atk Incineroar Darkest Lariat vs. 0 HP / 60+ Def Dragapult: 266-314 (83.9 - 99%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
 
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:sm/primarina:
Primarina @ Choice Specs
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 252 SpA / 168 Spe (the other 88 EV's are flexible you just want 252 SpA and outspeed Goodra)
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Surf / Hydro Cannon / Hydro Pump / Scald / Water Pledge / Brine / Bubble Beam / Water Pulse / Water Gun / Whirlpool
- Moonblast / Dazzling Gleam

252+ SpA Choice Specs Primarina Moonblast vs. 248 HP / 0+ SpD Goodra: 320-380 (83.5 - 99.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
124 SpA Goodra Sludge Wave vs. 88 HP / 0 SpD Primarina: 146-174 (45.2 - 53.8%) -- 40.2% chance to 2HKO

252+ SpA Choice Specs Primarina Moonblast vs. 8 HP / 0 SpD Avalugg: 460-543 (138.1 - 163%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Choice Band Avalugg Heavy Slam (120 BP) vs. 88 HP / 0 Def Primarina: 233-275 (72.1 - 85.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ SpA Choice Specs Primarina Surf vs. 152 HP / 0 SpD Incineroar: 518-612 (140.3 - 165.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
104+ Atk Incineroar Fake Out vs. 88 HP / 0 Def Primarina: 51-60 (15.7 - 18.5%) -- possible 6HKO
104+ Atk Incineroar Flare Blitz vs. 88 HP / 0 Def Primarina: 112-132 (34.6 - 40.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

252+ SpA Choice Specs Primarina Whirlpool vs. 8 HP / 0 SpD Avalugg: 169-201 (50.7 - 60.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after trapping damage
252+ SpA Choice Specs Primarina Whirlpool vs. 152 HP / 0 SpD Incineroar: 204-240 (55.2 - 65%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after trapping damage
Specs Primarina has already been submitted
 

pqs

u rly thought
30m early > 11h late
The eighth BMT cycle is over, with DannyDoritos's Excadrill post winning a spot in the hall of fame!

This next team, in SWSH, is by zioziotrip. This cycle will last until April 27th.

Darmanitan @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Sheer Force
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Flare Blitz
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide
- Trick

Primarina @ Weakness Policy
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 124 Def / 128 SpA / 4 SpD
Modest Nature
- Moonblast
- Aqua Jet
- Sparkling Aria
- Encore

Rillaboom @ Leftovers
Ability: Overgrow
EVs: 240 HP / 56 Def / 180 SpD / 32 Spe
Impish Nature
- Protect
- Substitute
- Leech Seed
- Drum Beating

Enjoy!

tagging Rosa for the Kyubits

On a side note, I want to recognize Datsplashtho for this awesome BMT art based off the third cycle. Thank you so much!
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Rotom-Heat @ Choice Specs
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 52 Def / 76 SpA / 28 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Thunder
- Overheat

Darmanitan
252 Atk Sheer Force Darmanitan Rock Slide vs. 0 HP / 52 Def Rotom-Heat: 204-240 (84.6 - 99.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

76+ SpA Choice Specs Rotom-Heat Thunder vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Darmanitan: 351-414 (100 - 117.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Primarina
76+ SpA Choice Specs Rotom-Heat Thunder vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Primarina: 384-452 (105.4 - 124.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Rillaboom
You outspeed
76+ SpA Choice Specs Rotom-Heat Overheat vs. 240 HP / 180 SpD Rillaboom: 552-650 (137.6 - 162%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 

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