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This is normal Shaymin, not Shaymin-sky, so it's only 40%Seed Flare has an 80% (I said 60 but it's even higher) chance of dropping SpDef.
This is normal Shaymin, not Shaymin-sky, so it's only 40%Seed Flare has an 80% (I said 60 but it's even higher) chance of dropping SpDef.
My bad, 40% is still a considerably high percent thoughThis is normal Shaymin, not Shaymin-sky, so it's only 40%
Cantius already did Rindo CloysterHere's another ice type to beat the team that is mono-weak to ice. I think this one's a little less fun but at least it beats rhyperior without sub which is lame.
Cloyster @ Rindo Berry
Ability: Skill Link
EVs: 252 Atk / 56 SpA / 100 SpD
Brave Nature
- Icicle Spear
- Surf
- Ice Shard
Rhyperior: 56 SpA guarantees an ohko on Rhyperior with surf. If they endure, ice shard takes them out.
56 SpA Cloyster Surf vs. 252 HP / 36 SpD Solid Rock Rhyperior: 435-516 (100.2 - 118.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
and even with a brave nature Cloyster outspeeds Rhyperior, with 158 compared to its 116 speed.
Shaymin: Cloyster's SpDef is so atrocious that even through rindo berry seed flare was still a guaranteed ohko and it needed to have significant spdef investment. Icicle spear isn't guaranteed to kill here so it needs to have ice shard to win this matchup.
4 SpA Shaymin Seed Flare vs. 0 HP / 100 SpD Rindo Berry Cloyster: 204-240 (84.6 - 99.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Cloyster Icicle Spear (5 hits) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Shaymin: 370-450 (91.5 - 111.3%) -- approx. 37.5% chance to OHKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Cloyster Ice Shard vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Shaymin: 116-140 (28.7 - 34.6%) -- 99.5% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
Dragonite:
0- SpA Dragonite Thunder vs. 0 HP / 100 SpD Cloyster: 242-286 (100.4 - 118.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
But in all seriousness click icicle spear one time. It massacres Dragonite and Cloyster's fantastic physical bulk means it can't be ohkod by this set.
shitCantius already did Rindo Cloyster
Bronzong zen headbutt spam winsView attachment 234410
Aerodactyl @ Power Herb
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 240 HP / 252 Atk / 16 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Substitute
- Protect
- Stone Edge
- Sky Attack
Protect and sub spam until struggle
Outspeeds by one, Sky attack
252+ Atk Aerodactyl Sky Attack vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Shaymin: 432-510 (126.3 - 149.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Stone edge
252+ Atk Aerodactyl Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Dragonite: 324-384 (100.3 - 118.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
pqs maybe don’t have two weeks in a row with Shaymin and dnite on the same team
Ties exist in DPPSkarmory @ Choice Band
Ability: Keen Eye
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk
Adamant Nature
- Brave Bird
why use more than one move?
Bronzong: Factoring brave bird recoil damage taken is roughly similar (like exactly the same) on both sides, but skarm outspeeds and wins.
252+ Atk Choice Band Skarmory Brave Bird vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Bronzong: 93-110 (27.5 - 32.5%) -- guaranteed 4HKO (9.1 - 10.8% recoil damage)
252+ Atk Choice Band Bronzong Zen Headbutt vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Skarmory: 62-73 (18.5 - 21.8%) -- possible 5HKO
Skarm kills on turn 4 and can't take more than 329 damage in the first three turns. It has 334 hp so it wins guaranteed if there aren't any crits.
Dragonite: 2hko and don't get 2hkod back. Superpower max roll + Brave Bird max roll recoil + -1 Superpower could be a kill (I don't really care to do all that addition) but it doesn't matter because if they superpower t1 then brave bird ohkos
Shaymin: Brave Bird ohkos so it can't leech stall. The only thing it can do is sub to chip skarm into hp ice crit range.
252+ Atk Choice Band Skarmory Brave Bird vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Shaymin: 426-504 (124.5 - 147.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Life Orb Shaymin Hidden Power Ice vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Skarmory: 122-144 (36.5 - 43.1%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Unfortunately your Camerupt doesn't beat Dragonite.
Camerupt @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Solid Rock
EVs: 80 HP / 176 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Eruption
- HP Ice
• Bronzong -> cb is little expected in zong. His best move vs Camerupt is EQ but I am faster with or without Scarf.
176 SpA Camerupt Eruption (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Bronzong: 348-410 (102.9 - 121.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
• Nite-> I made a specific cast to better fit Dragonite. As the previous case, your best answer is EQ
252+ Atk Dragonite Earthquake vs. 80 HP / 0 Def Solid Rock Camerupt: 246-291 (81.7 - 96.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
while I'm faster with HP Ice
Yache Berry
176 SpA Camerupt Hidden Power Ice vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Yache Berry Dragonite: 124-146 (38.3 - 45.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
Rip Yache
176 SpA Camerupt Hidden Power Ice vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Dragonite: 248-292 (76.7 - 90.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
• Shaymin -> click Eruption
176 SpA Camerupt Eruption (150 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Shaymin: 396-468 (115.7 - 136.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
thanks man I don't understand how I didn't notice better I'm asleep. Well in any case I change the evs cast to 176 def and done.Unfortunately your Camerupt doesn't beat Dragonite.
Dragonite can just outrage T1 which kills the majority of the time, and even if it didn't you also have to consider the fact that Dnite can use ddance turn 1 to outspeed and ohko T2.
252+ Atk Dragonite Outrage vs. 80 HP / 0 Def Camerupt: 295-348 (98 - 115.6%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO
Correct me if I'm wrong and Ive overlooked something pretty basic but I believe DNite wins.
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Dustox @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Shield Dust
EVs: 172 HP / 252 Def / 84 SpA
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Iron Defense
- Substitute
- Roost
- Sludge Bomb
- dustox outspeeds, tanks, and recovers. if you know bronzong is using trick turn one, use substitute, but if you know it's using zen headbutt (most powerful move), spam iron defense + roost until at +6 and then pp stall it to death.
252+ Atk Bronzong Zen Headbutt vs. +2 252 HP / 252+ Def Dustox: 102-120 (31.4 - 37%) -- 70.7% chance to 3HKO
don't even try against the TOX.
- hahahahahahahhahahahahahha just tank like wtf and iron defense too easy
252+ Atk Dragonite Outrage vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Dustox: 199-235 (61.4 - 72.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Dragonite Outrage vs. +2 252 HP / 252+ Def Dustox: 100-118 (30.8 - 36.4%) -- 58.5% chance to 3HKO
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if they try and dd turn one, you can 5hko with sludge bomb while they try and set up, and set up on your own with sub and confuse hax them if nothing else
- shaymin cannot touch you, you just sludge bomb / maybe roost it to death
252+ SpA Shaymin Seed Flare vs. 172 HP / 0 SpD Dustox: 49-58 (16.1 - 19%) -- possible 6HKO
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Nalei
Whilst that stops you from dying t1 to outrage, Dragonite can still use ddance t1 which allows it to outspeed t2 and then kill:thanks man I don't understand how I didn't notice better I'm asleep. Well in any case I change the evs cast to 176 def and done.