CaP 19 Pre-Evo - Part 3 - Art Submissions

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DHR-107

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With Poison/Electric winning our typing poll, we keep the same typing for Minimanta compared to Plasmanta.

I am going to throw up the Art Thread now out of convenience. I want it to be open for as long as possible so people can sort out designs and think about what they want. Abilities are on hold until Plasmanta's flavour ability gets sorted out (Which should be at most two days time). This gives the artists little to work with, but you DO know what our prevo turns into at least.

As with all Art threads, please check out the rules below. As for now: I will leave you guys with the awesome artwork for Plasmanta that was originally drawn by Magistrum



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A final submission will contain a main design and supporting material if you choose to add supporting material to your artwork. What constitutes a main design and supporting material will be discussed later in this post. The most important rule concerning art submissions is that all work must be your own. Plagiarism is heavily frowned upon and will only result in pain, misery, and infractions. Or even bans in particularly egregious cases. Using someone else's idea as inspiration is fine, but copying someone else's idea and passing it off as your own is unacceptable. Use discretion when using someone else's idea; if you think you are plagiarizing, you probably are.

Main Designs

A main design is the piece of art that the voters will be voting on. It is modeled after the Official Art of existing Pokemon. For example, the Plasmanta artwork in this post is Plasmanta's Main Design. The winning Main Design will be the official, definitive art for Plasmanta's pre-evolution. Therefore, when creating and submitting your Main Design, remember that your design should be worthy of display as the official art for Plasmanta's pre-evolution. Official pictures of Plasmanta's pre-evolution will use the winning Main Design. Although the idea of a Main Design is the "Official Pokemon Art" of Plasmanta's pre-evolution, that does not mean you have to follow any specific artistic style when designing your Pokemon. There are no pre-determined standards of artistic design or rendering technique.

Here are the rules governing legal Main Design submissions:

  • Your design must consist of a single Pokemon on a plain white background with no part of the Pokemon cut off by the canvas.
  • No props, action effects, move effects, or additional objects can be rendered on or around the Pokemon. If a prop is part of the Pokemon's basic design (ie. Conkeldurr's pillars, Gurdurr's girder), then it is acceptable.
  • Any 2D digital or scanned traditional drawing may be used. It must be in full color. 3D media and photos are not allowed.
  • Your design must have a distinguishable outline on the entire subject in contrast to the background. No part of the design can be blurred into the background or blended into the background in any way.
  • The maximum allowed size is 640x640 and the minimum allowed size of 320x320.
  • Your design must be in a compressed digital format such as .png or .jpg.
  • Please only host artwork on a reliable image hosting service (such as imgur or puush). Do not use the forum's 'Upload a File' feature. Do not use Iaza or Ezimba.
Final Submission Post Rules

All artists must make a final submission post conforming to the following rules, including those for the Main Design, in order to be included in the art poll.
  • The post must have "Final Submission" (in bold) as the first line, with the Main Design at the top, and supporting material (if applicable) below it.
  • All supporting art must be included as links or as linked thumbnails no larger than 150 pixels in either dimension. Do not include full images of supporting art in the final submission.
  • Only make one (1) final submission post. Artists are welcome to work on multiple designs and get feedback from the community, but only one design can be submitted for final consideration. If you wish to alter any aspect of your final submission, then edit your post. Do not make a new one, even if you delete your original post. Any deleting and re-posting will be treated as bumping and is subject to moderation.

By making a final submission, an artist gives the CAP project permission to use the submitted art for CAP and related projects. The artist also consents that the design can be interpreted by other artists for the CAP project and for other promotional purposes.

Artists cannot submit any artwork that has been previously or that is currently used by another project not affiliated with CAP. The winning CAP artist agrees to not later use the winning design for another project or contest not affiliated with CAP.

These rules are not malleable and will be strictly enforced. Do not use precedence as an argument for breaking these rules. Claiming that your submission is legal because it emulates an existing Pokemon or a previous CAP's art is not a valid reason for breaking the rules. There are existing in-game Pokemon that do not comport with these rules and there are existing CAP Main Designs that do not comport with these rules. However, these are still the current rules for submitting Main Designs and for your design to be legal, it must follow all of these rules. If you are not sure whether your design is legal, feel free to contact me or a CAP moderator. These rules are not meant to discourage users from submitting art and these rules are not supposed to trick anyone. If you want to make sure your submission is legal, please ask!

Supporting Material

Supporting Material is material that adds to your Main Design. Although the winning Supporting Material is not featured in the same capacity as the Main Design, Supporting Material is still useful for convincing others why your design deserves to win the Art Polls. There are almost no rules governing Supporting Material, and almost any Supporting Material you can think of is allowed. Typical examples of Supporting Material include motion sketches, interactions between your art design and other Pokemon (including CAPs), animations, sculptures, and cartoon strips. Pictures of your design from other angles are also acceptable. Non-art supporting material is also perfectly fine. If you would like to argue or describe in words how your art design works, that is also legal. Just remember to keep your Supporting Material tasteful and to relate your Supporting Material to the Main Design. This rule is intended to prevent artists from posting unrelated art in an effort to gain more attention or promote other designs or artworks. Supporting Material is not necessary nor required for the Art Poll. All you need to create to appear in the Art Poll is a legal Main Design, but if you would like to further explain your Main Design then feel free to include Supporting Material. There are very few rules governing Supporting Material, so get creative with your Material if you include some!

General Posting Rules
  • Artists can post any work-in-progress (WIP) artwork in order to solicit feedback or to help develop ideas. WIP artwork does not need to conform to the standards of a Main Design. It can be in any medium or stage of completion, but it must be related to an original art design by the poster.
  • Do not spam the thread with excessive amounts of artwork over a short period of time. Apparently, some artists think they will improve their chances in the poll if they overload the submission thread with their artwork. Doing so will result in your posts being moderated.
  • Do not post inconsequential "updates" to previously posted art. Only if you have made a significant change and have not posted art recently can you post an update in the thread.
  • No post can contain more than 800x800 pixels of included art, and no single picture can be larger than 640x640. Past those limits, artists should post links to the additional art or use linking thumbnails. Each thumbnail can be no larger than 150x150. Any number of thumbnails can be included in a post, even if it passes the limit. All art must be in a compressed digital format such as .jpg or .png.
  • Do not post to state your intended design. Such posts are a weak attempt to "reserve" an idea, and serve no constructive purpose. "Reserving" an idea carries no weight and is completely inconsequential to your final product.
  • Do not post images to serve as inspiration for artists or attempt to commission an artist in the thread to do your idea. This isn't an idea thread. It's fine for artists to post their own inspiration as supporting material. All work should be your own. If you would like to bounce around some ideas, do so on #cap on IRC.
  • No bumping or begging, especially for feedback. If your design is any good, people will comment on it. If your design gets no feedback, then your design is not very good. Consider the silence to be your feedback. If your design is not receiving feedback, then it is probably not impressing anyone enough to win the Art Poll. Discussing your design on #cap on IRC, however, is fine. Just follow the IRC rules when doing so.
  • Do not declare any artwork as "the winner" or say that anything "is clearly going to win". It's fine to post praise or support for an artwork, but don't make a statement indicating the results of a poll that has not been conducted. Such posts are insulting to all the other competing artists.
  • Do not post that a design does or does not "look like a Pokemon/Digimon". Such comments are unable to be substantiated or refuted. There is no artistic style guide for Pokemon, so don't act like you know what a Pokemon should look like. If you like or dislike a design, that's fine, just say that. Saying you dislike a design is fine as long as your criticism is constructive. Don't say someone's design looks more like Agumon than Plasmanta.
  • Do not post questions asking for help in making art. This isn't a tutorial thread.

Art Polls

All art polls will contain the main design and, if applicable, a link below it titled "Supporting Material". This will link to the artists final submission post. If the final submission contains no significant supporting material, then no link will be included in the poll below the main design. As a result of This Policy Review decision, all legal Final Submissions will be slated on the Art Poll. You do not have to convince me that your art is worthy to be slated. I am just another voter in terms of the Art Poll, my only other responsibility is, well, running this thread and opening/closing the poll. To reiterate, all legal submissions will make the Art Poll. Don't worry about "not being good enough to be slated", if your post follows all the rules then your design will go before the voters!

Miscellaneous

This thread will be open for much longer than other CAP pre-evolution threads. Abilities, Stats and Movepool will run concurrently with this thread, so don't worry about a "time crunch" with Art Submissions. I will update this thread with more information (Stats, etc.) as we decide on it.

Our Prevo so far:

Typing: Electric/Poison
 
Final Submission



I know this isn't any sort of sting ray, but I drew this just now. Kind of like how Carvanha evolves into Sharpedo.

It's supposed to be a neon tetra, for those wondering. In comparison to Plasmanta, it would likely be tiny, as in a mere 1'04". That's just what I envision, even though the sizes are decided by the TLT (or in this case, mods), I believe.

Ironically, these little guys are often preyed on by Gyarados of all things, even though they are usually found in Coastal Kalos.

EDIT: I finalized my submission, though there isn't much more to say about this little fishy.
 
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Two sketches of possible pre-evos. The top-right one is based on a computer mouse, while the bottom-left one is another variation of a small ray.

  • Integer Mova: I'm definitely fond of the simplicity and contrast in your pre-evolution compared to Plasmanta. It strikes me as an evolution more than 'small manta ray' --> 'big manta ray'. :) I like the pectoral fin as a slight hint to its evolution. I do think that it's a bit too fishy for an Electric/Poison-type Pokemon, but I'd be willing to overlook that.
  • boxofkangaroos: Hmm, I think it'd be more appealing for the viewer if the design were draw from a less flat perspective, to show off the form of the figure instead of the top pattern. I'd have no idea what its underside or face would look like if I were to sprite it. The current drawing seems like it'd do better as supplementary art, with a more eye-level drawing more suitable as the main design.
  • Yilx: The Omega character does match quite well as patterns on the body, and Electric-type Pokemon sometimes do have blatant markings (Elekid, Plusle/Minun, e.g.), so that's quite suitable. Still, I can't help but express drollness over the origin of your design.
  • Scorpio: I'd personally try to use design elements not taken so explicitly from Plasmanta itself. The tail and rings are quite similar to Plasmanta's tail and rings, so the concept doesn't seem like it can stand on its own.
  • D4rk3r: The design sure is cute. :) But without knowledge that this was a pre-evo step, I might mistake your drawing for a chibi Plasmanta. I do think a little more differentiation in coloring, markings, or general design would help convey that this creature is a pre-evolution.
 
WIP


Hopefully you can see what I was going for. Unfortunately, thanks to my lack of artistic experience, I have no idea how to do stuff like shading.

It has a light on the end of its tail for navigation. It has no natural predators because it is poisonous to eat.

I decided to keep one of Plasmanta's rings on its back, and tried my best to mimic the shape of its head.
 

Here's mine so far! PLEASE comment and stuff. I did this in colored pencil and stupidly tried to edit it on my computer... XD! So, for now, Minimanta, you're stuck like this!

It'll improve soon enough. Actually, what's the final deadline for the art?
 

Sunfished

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So, made a more "definitive" version:

It's got a palette closer to plasmanta, and the yellow rings on its head are now designs on its body, rather than seperate parts.

Also, the yellow color is really distorted from what it looks like in photoshop. It's like it didn't like the bright colors so it exported with a dull yellow D:
 
So, made a more "definitive" version:
http://puu.sh/cNgtT/1fe78c075f.png
It's got a palette closer to plasmanta, and the yellow rings on its head are now designs on its body, rather than seperate parts.

Also, the yellow color is really distorted from what it looks like in photoshop. It's like it didn't like the bright colors so it exported with a dull yellow D:
As much as I like this overall design, the large "horns" look strange to me. They just look about 2-3x as big as they should be.
 
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Sunfished

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As much as I like this overall design, the large "horns" look strange to me. They just look about 2-3x as big as they should be.
The largeness was intentional, because I didn't want to follow en route with the other designs' making them small, so I made them large.
I was sort of trying to convey that the attenae don't grow when it evolves, so it's born with freakishly huge ones :p
 

DHR-107

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These all look great. I can't wait to see them tidied and polished!

You guys have got another few days yet, when the Stats are over I expect to put in a 24/36 hour time limit on this thread for final subs. This post will likely go up when I put up the Movepool Submissions page.
 
Final submission

I though it would be fun to refer to the Benjamin Franklin experiment (the kite) so that it would evolve when struck by lightning.

Comments:
Sunfished: Cute! I like the concept but the ribbed ledge between the blue and the yellow look a bit strange to me.
Yilx: I think it looks great. The pose is nice too. I also like the concept but i think you overdone it a bit with the omega's. Maybe a little bit less omega's would make the design more subtle.
The unseen potato & D4rk3r & PixelMoniac_ & Scorpio : all 3 the designs look nice, but they resemble a bit too much like Plasmanta for my taste.
GoldNinja: The design looks a bit strange to me. I do'nt really get why there is a spike on the tail.
Quanyails: I'm curious how it will turn out, it looks promising. I would go for the left design.
Integar Mova: I like the idea of making a fish. It is very octilery-like, which I think is great. But the side-view doesn't really show much of the design. A different angle would work better I think.
 
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