CaP Prevos - Embirch and Flarelm Movepool Updates

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DHR-107

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Hey all!

I want to get a lot of movepools worked out before the end of CaP 24 and its possible prevo so we are going to be looking at all these pretty thick and fast going forwards over the next two or three weeks. I hope to get a full "revamp" done to coincide with either CaP 24's Prevo (if applicable) or whenever CaP 24's playtest is over and done with. We already have four new Pokemon going into the sim very shortly in the shape of Privatyke, Rebble and Tactite and Voodoll!

Pyroak got a large number of updates over the course of our movement to Seventh Gen. It's about time we filtered this down to his prevos, Embirch and Flarelm!
Update thread said:
Pyroak - Complete - [Add White Smoke, Add Aromatic Mist, Bulldoze, Burn Up, Dragon Pulse, Dragon Tail, Flame Burst, Flame Charge, Flash Cannon, Grassy Terrain, Heat Crash, Incinerate, Iron Head, Petal Blizzard, Round, Wild Charge, Zen Headbutt] - CAP Updates: Pyroak Discussion
As far as I am aware, all the above moves were added directly into Pyroak's movepool. snake_rattler also won the movepool poll at the following location: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/cap-updates-pyroak-discussion.3604632/page-3#post-7370053 Please use THIS movepool as a base and compare it to the old ones. Snake designed it with the prevos in mind, so it's certainly worth reading his post and seeing his thoughts on it!

Embirch and Flarelm could do with a few of these new toys as well. Below are the Original Movepools for Embirch and Flarelm, and I'd like these to be updated to conform with Pyroaks new movepool:

Embirch
Movepool:
Level Up
Code:
Level Move
-- Sweet Scent
-- Bullet Seed
05 Growth
09 Ember
13 Leech Seed
17 Flame Wheel
21 Giga Drain
25 Fire Spin
29 Petal Dance
33 Double-Edge
37 Synthesis
40 Lava Plume
44 Zap Cannon
Tutor Moves
Code:
Block
Counter
Double-Edge
Headbutt
Heat Wave
Iron Defense
Low Kick
Mimic
Mud-Slap
Seed Bomb
Snore
Synthesis
Worry Seed
TM Moves
Code:
TM Move
TM05 Roar
TM06 Toxic
TM09 Bullet Seed
TM10 Hidden Power
TM11 Sunny Day
TM16 Light Screen
TM17 Protect
TM19 Giga Drain
TM20 Safeguard
TM21 Frustration
TM22 SolarBeam
TM23 Iron Tail
TM27 Return
TM32 Double Team
TM35 Flamethrower
TM39 Rock Tomb
TM42 Facade
TM43 Secret Power
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM50 Overheat
TM53 Energy Ball
TM58 Endure
TM61 Will-o-Wisp
TM70 Flash
TM75 Swords Dance
TM76 Stealth Rock
TM80 Rock Slide
TM82 Sleep Talk
TM83 Natural Gift
TM86 Grass Knot
TM87 Swagger
TM90 Substitute

HM04 Strength
HM06 Rock Smash
HM08 Rock Climb
EGG Moves
Code:
Aromatherapy
Counter
Dragonbreath
Grasswhistle
Psybeam
Revenge
Sand Tomb
Water Sport

Flarelm
Movepool:
Level Up
Code:
Level Move
-- Sweet Scent
-- Bullet Seed
05 Growth
09 Ember
13 Leech Seed
17 Flame Wheel
21 Giga Drain
28 Fire Spin
36 Petal Dance
40 Iron Defense
44 Synthesis
48 Lava Plume
52 Zap Cannon
Tutor Moves
Code:
Block
Counter
Double-Edge
Headbutt
Heat Wave
Iron Defense
Low Kick
Mimic
Mud-Slap
Seed Bomb
Snore
Synthesis
Worry Seed
TM Moves
Code:
TM Move
TM05 Roar
TM06 Toxic
TM09 Bullet Seed
TM10 Hidden Power
TM11 Sunny Day
TM16 Light Screen
TM17 Protect
TM19 Giga Drain
TM20 Safeguard
TM21 Frustration
TM22 SolarBeam
TM23 Iron Tail
TM27 Return
TM32 Double Team
TM35 Flamethrower
TM39 Rock Tomb
TM42 Facade
TM43 Secret Power
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM50 Overheat
TM53 Energy Ball
TM58 Endure
TM61 Will-o-Wisp
TM70 Flash
TM75 Swords Dance
TM76 Stealth Rock
TM80 Rock Slide
TM82 Sleep Talk
TM83 Natural Gift
TM86 Grass Knot
TM87 Swagger
TM90 Substitute

HM04 Strength
HM06 Rock Smash
HM08 Rock Climb
EGG Moves
Code:
Aromatherapy
Counter
Dragonbreath
Grasswhistle
Psybeam
Revenge
Sand Tomb
Water Sport
You guys know what you're doing by now! The main thing is to add in the new Egg moves that Pyroak gained access too, and then to make sure all the other moves appear as needed! Both of these Pokemon have evolution moves (Flarelm gains access to Flame Burst when it evolves from Embirch, and Pyroak gains access to Energy Ball when it evolves from Flarelm!). Try and keep these in mind while updating the movepool! I'm going to give you guys a few days to get this going and then we will probably try and move through them thick and fast. I will be hosting these as a joint poll for both evolutions. This is because these movepools will be so intrinsically linked to each other, it would be strange if they differentiated between users. I will be doing this going forwards for other double prevos too.
 

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Embirch

Just a general comment for most of Embirch, I got rid of the super powerful tackling stuff except for Double-Edge and Wild Charge. Also most of the Dragon elements.

- Double-Edge
- Sweet Scent
- Bullet Seed
5 Ember
10 Leech Seed
14 Synthesis
19 Flame Wheel
23 Seed Bomb
27 Growth
31 Giga Drain
35 Iron Defense
35 Amnesia
39 Lava Plume
44 Petal Dance
49 Aromatic Mist
53 Zap Cannon

Trimmed down the movepool on the high-level end, but left Zap Cannon because it was in the original Embirch movepool.
Aromatherapy
Counter
Dragon Breath
Fire Spin (Charizard, Turtonator)
Grass Whistle
Grassy Terrain
Petal Blizzard

Psybeam
Revenge
Sand Tomb
Water Sport
]Block
Earth Power
Giga Drain
Heat Wave
Iron Defense
Iron Tail
Low Kick
Seed Bomb
Snore
Stealth Rock
Synthesis
Worry Seed

I'm putting Earth Power here not only because I think that would be useful for Embirch competitively for CAP LC, but also because I like having some of the Ground-type moves that Pyroak has access to on Embirch.
TM05 Roar
TM06 Toxic
TM10 Hidden Power
TM11 Sunny Day
TM16 Light Screen
TM17 Protect
TM20 Safeguard
TM21 Frustration
TM22 Solar Beam
TM27 Return
TM32 Double Team
TM35 Flamethrower
TM38 Fire Blast
TM39 Rock Tomb
TM42 Façade
TM43 Flame Charge
TM44 Rest
TM48 Round
TM50 Overheat
TM53 Energy Ball
TM61 Will-O-Wisp
TM75 Swords Dance
TM78 Bulldoze
TM80 Rock Slide
TM86 Grass Knot
TM87 Swagger
TM88 Sleep Talk
TM90 Substitute
TM93 Wild Charge
TM96 Nature Power
TM100 Confide


So I added Fire Blast because I thought it was odd to have Flamethrower and Overheat but not Fire Blast. Could change though. Left in Bulldoze
Ancient Power (Gen 4 Move Tutor)
Endure (Gen 4 TM58)
Flash (Gen 4 TM70)
Headbutt (Gen 4 Tutor)
Incinerate (Gen 5 / Gen 6 TM59)
Mud-Slap (Gen 4 Move Tutor)
Natural Gift (Gen 4 TM83)
Rock Smash (Gen 4 / ORAS HM06, Gen 5 / XY TM94)
Secret Power (Gen 4 TM43)
Strength (Gen 6 HM04)


Flarelm

- Double-Edge
- Sweet Scent
- Bullet Seed
Evolve: Flame Burst
5 Ember
10 Leech Seed
14 Synthesis
19 Flame Wheel
23 Seed Bomb
28 Growth
32 Giga Drain
37 Iron Defense
37 Amnesia
43 Lava Plume
47 Petal Dance
52 Aromatic Mist
56 Zap Cannon

Flame Burst is the evolve move per past-Snek instruction. Really just trimmed off the same moves as I did for Embirch.
Aromatherapy
Counter
Dragon Breath
Fire Spin (Charizard, Turtonator)
Grass Whistle
Grassy Terrain
Petal Blizzard

Psybeam
Revenge
Sand Tomb
Water Sport
]Block
Dragon Pulse
Earth Power
Giga Drain
Heat Wave
Iron Defense
Iron Tail
Low Kick
Seed Bomb
Snore
Stealth Rock
Synthesis
Worry Seed
TM05 Roar
TM06 Toxic
TM10 Hidden Power
TM11 Sunny Day
TM16 Light Screen
TM17 Protect
TM20 Safeguard
TM21 Frustration
TM22 Solar Beam
TM27 Return
TM32 Double Team
TM35 Flamethrower
TM38 Fire Blast
TM39 Rock Tomb
TM42 Façade
TM43 Flame Charge
TM44 Rest
TM48 Round
TM50 Overheat
TM53 Energy Ball
TM61 Will-O-Wisp
TM68 Giga Impact
TM69 Rock Polish
TM75 Swords Dance
TM78 Bulldoze
TM80 Rock Slide
TM82 Dragon Tail
TM86 Grass Knot
TM87 Swagger
TM88 Sleep Talk
TM90 Substitute
TM91 Flash Cannon
TM93 Wild Charge
TM96 Nature Power
TM100 Confide


Leaving Dragon Tail on because Flarelm starts to look more like a dragon and has a significantly larger tail. Same thing with Fire Blast.
Ancient Power (Gen 4 Move Tutor)
Endure (Gen 4 TM58)
Flash (Gen 4 TM70)
Headbutt (Gen 4 Tutor)
Incinerate (Gen 5 / Gen 6 TM59)
Mud-Slap (Gen 4 Move Tutor)
Natural Gift (Gen 4 TM83)
Rock Smash (Gen 4 / ORAS HM06, Gen 5 / XY TM94)
Secret Power (Gen 4 TM43)
Strength (Gen 6 HM04)
 
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DHR-107

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But DHR-107, didn't Embirch and Flarelm already got movepools voted on and everything?

https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/cap-prevos-embirch-flarelm-movepool-poll.3614662/

Drew won the movepool and everything.
Oh my days.

How did I miss this? My notes were obviously incomplete. Crikey. I'm so sorry everyone. I will put up the thread for the next prevo as soon as I can. I'll also try and get this updated with Marty soon.

Again, huge apologies for making this mistake.
 
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