Since the release of Black and White, there have been many changes and surprises. We still aren't sure how these changes will affect the CAP project in the short term or long term. This thread will serve to keep the community informed about what we are going to do, and allow the community to give feedback on our plans.
CAP Server, Revisions, and the CAP Metagame
The release of BW has swamped Smogon with forum traffic. The server can barely handle the load of forum traffic alone, and the SU Shoddy server has been shut down temporarily while we figure out a solution to the performance issues facing the server. This has led many users to the CAP server. We have appointed several temporary mods to help keep the CAP server running smoothly.
Unfortunately, all the additional traffic can be a problem for normal CAP ladder play, since most of these users are just spillover users and they have no intention of battling with or against a bunch of fakemon. Some of you may think "Screw 'em. If they come to the CAP server, they need to deal with CAP pokemon." That's not really a solution to anything. Because, the surprised users end up trolling the server, they bad-mouth CAP pokemon and the CAP project, and create a general public relations nightmare. "It's bad for business", so to speak.
So, there is a bit of a dilemma in moving on with playtesting reversions and trying to figure out how to handle our unbalanced complete CAP metagame. We didn't have any firm plans for managing the overall CAP metagame, but we wanted to look at it after CAP 11 completed. With all the random activity on the server, it has complicated things considerably. I don't know what we are going to do about it -- but I do not think it is a good idea to simply proceed like normal, as if nothing is different than before.
Starting a new CAP
Black and White has put the CAP project in a weird position.
The 4th generation just became irrelevant. Not literally, but hopefully you get the point. For the near future, all the energy, interest, excitement, and focus of the entire competitive pokemon community is on the 5th generation. I don't know if this is a short-term thing that will die down in a week or two, or if this is the way things are going to be all the way through the US release of BW in Spring 2011. But the way it stands right this moment -- no one really cares about anything associated with the 4th generation metagame. Since the CAP project is deeply embedded in the 4th generation metagame, it is not terribly important for us to continue our "lab experiments" with that metagame.
Even if we do decide to forge ahead and continue cranking out 4th generation pokemon, anything we do will be constantly questioned and compared to all the new stuff happening in the 5th gen. We could try to make big bold advertisements saying "CAP 12 is 4th generation only -- please do not make posts, comments, or questions that derail the project into 5th gen concerns". I think that is a hopeless endeavor. The CAP project has a HUGE number of new users every time. It is ridiculous to think new users will assume that we are making new pokemon for the old metagame. It's borderline trolling for us to make a new CAP and then tell people that it has nothing to do with the 5th generation.
Just in case anyone is thinking, "OK, then let's make a 5th gen CAP" -- forget it. It will be quite some time before we know enough about the metagame to actually experiment with it, and even after we know about it, it will take even longer for the metagame to develop sufficiently for CAP to have a clue what to experiment with. And on top of all that -- we still are a long way from having a working simulator for the 5th gen and for CAP. The CAP project is not moving forward into the 5th generation any time soon.
And to top it all off -- why would anyone get excited about a new fake pokemon for an old version of the game, when they have new REAL pokemon in a NEW version of the game? Yes, there are diehard CAP members that probably want to keep making new fakemons, regardless of what else is happening throughout the rest of the competitive pokemon universe. But, the reality is that the entire Smogon community is basically one ENORMOUS multi-faceted CAP project right now. The entire community is swamped with new pokemon and new mechanics, and are investigating how the metagame will be changed and how the pokemon should be played. I think it would be very strange for us to pop up and say to Smogon, "Hey everybody, let's make something new and exciting in competitive pokemon! Come check out the CAP project!" If I were outside the CAP project, I would probably think -- "Hey dorks, crawl out from under your CAP project rock and take a look at what is going on right now. Get a clue."
What do we do from here?
So, I really don't know how we should proceed. I have mentioned these issues on IRC and I have not gotten much in the way of helpful suggestions. Most responses have been along the lines of:
CAP does not operate on a quota, and we do not have a mandate to simply keep cranking out pokemon every few months, no matter what. There is considerable time and effort that goes into the underpinnings of the CAP project and community. If we aren't in a position to conduct a meaningful project -- then I do not want to proceed forward to make a new pokemon simply because we have nothing better to do with our time. Because right now, with all the new activity in the 5th generation, I know I have plenty of other things to do with my time. And I suspect anyone else that can meaningfully contribute to the foundations of the CAP project has plenty of things to do as well. So, if there are people sitting around pining away to make a new fakemon, right in the face of an avalanche of 5th gen metagame activity -- then I'm not so sure we should really care to engage that audience here.
Right now, we are going to "wait and see". I want to get a better idea of how the 5th gen is going to settle down. I want to see what happens with all the forum traffic and server resources, before we make a determination of how to proceed with the existing CAP metagame on the server. I want to see how much longevity all the 5th gen hype can sustain. Once we get a better idea of how that will play out, we can make a better assessment of how Create-A-Pokemon fits into the long-term outlook.
CAP Server, Revisions, and the CAP Metagame
The release of BW has swamped Smogon with forum traffic. The server can barely handle the load of forum traffic alone, and the SU Shoddy server has been shut down temporarily while we figure out a solution to the performance issues facing the server. This has led many users to the CAP server. We have appointed several temporary mods to help keep the CAP server running smoothly.
Unfortunately, all the additional traffic can be a problem for normal CAP ladder play, since most of these users are just spillover users and they have no intention of battling with or against a bunch of fakemon. Some of you may think "Screw 'em. If they come to the CAP server, they need to deal with CAP pokemon." That's not really a solution to anything. Because, the surprised users end up trolling the server, they bad-mouth CAP pokemon and the CAP project, and create a general public relations nightmare. "It's bad for business", so to speak.
So, there is a bit of a dilemma in moving on with playtesting reversions and trying to figure out how to handle our unbalanced complete CAP metagame. We didn't have any firm plans for managing the overall CAP metagame, but we wanted to look at it after CAP 11 completed. With all the random activity on the server, it has complicated things considerably. I don't know what we are going to do about it -- but I do not think it is a good idea to simply proceed like normal, as if nothing is different than before.
Starting a new CAP
Black and White has put the CAP project in a weird position.
The 4th generation just became irrelevant. Not literally, but hopefully you get the point. For the near future, all the energy, interest, excitement, and focus of the entire competitive pokemon community is on the 5th generation. I don't know if this is a short-term thing that will die down in a week or two, or if this is the way things are going to be all the way through the US release of BW in Spring 2011. But the way it stands right this moment -- no one really cares about anything associated with the 4th generation metagame. Since the CAP project is deeply embedded in the 4th generation metagame, it is not terribly important for us to continue our "lab experiments" with that metagame.
Even if we do decide to forge ahead and continue cranking out 4th generation pokemon, anything we do will be constantly questioned and compared to all the new stuff happening in the 5th gen. We could try to make big bold advertisements saying "CAP 12 is 4th generation only -- please do not make posts, comments, or questions that derail the project into 5th gen concerns". I think that is a hopeless endeavor. The CAP project has a HUGE number of new users every time. It is ridiculous to think new users will assume that we are making new pokemon for the old metagame. It's borderline trolling for us to make a new CAP and then tell people that it has nothing to do with the 5th generation.
Just in case anyone is thinking, "OK, then let's make a 5th gen CAP" -- forget it. It will be quite some time before we know enough about the metagame to actually experiment with it, and even after we know about it, it will take even longer for the metagame to develop sufficiently for CAP to have a clue what to experiment with. And on top of all that -- we still are a long way from having a working simulator for the 5th gen and for CAP. The CAP project is not moving forward into the 5th generation any time soon.
And to top it all off -- why would anyone get excited about a new fake pokemon for an old version of the game, when they have new REAL pokemon in a NEW version of the game? Yes, there are diehard CAP members that probably want to keep making new fakemons, regardless of what else is happening throughout the rest of the competitive pokemon universe. But, the reality is that the entire Smogon community is basically one ENORMOUS multi-faceted CAP project right now. The entire community is swamped with new pokemon and new mechanics, and are investigating how the metagame will be changed and how the pokemon should be played. I think it would be very strange for us to pop up and say to Smogon, "Hey everybody, let's make something new and exciting in competitive pokemon! Come check out the CAP project!" If I were outside the CAP project, I would probably think -- "Hey dorks, crawl out from under your CAP project rock and take a look at what is going on right now. Get a clue."
What do we do from here?
So, I really don't know how we should proceed. I have mentioned these issues on IRC and I have not gotten much in the way of helpful suggestions. Most responses have been along the lines of:
That's not a solution. That is burying your head in the sand, and acting like the problems don't exist."Oh, uh, well.... yeah we don't really know what to do, and this is all really weird right now. So, uh, I guess we should just make another pokemon, right?"
CAP does not operate on a quota, and we do not have a mandate to simply keep cranking out pokemon every few months, no matter what. There is considerable time and effort that goes into the underpinnings of the CAP project and community. If we aren't in a position to conduct a meaningful project -- then I do not want to proceed forward to make a new pokemon simply because we have nothing better to do with our time. Because right now, with all the new activity in the 5th generation, I know I have plenty of other things to do with my time. And I suspect anyone else that can meaningfully contribute to the foundations of the CAP project has plenty of things to do as well. So, if there are people sitting around pining away to make a new fakemon, right in the face of an avalanche of 5th gen metagame activity -- then I'm not so sure we should really care to engage that audience here.
Right now, we are going to "wait and see". I want to get a better idea of how the 5th gen is going to settle down. I want to see what happens with all the forum traffic and server resources, before we make a determination of how to proceed with the existing CAP metagame on the server. I want to see how much longevity all the 5th gen hype can sustain. Once we get a better idea of how that will play out, we can make a better assessment of how Create-A-Pokemon fits into the long-term outlook.