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If you've got a simple question about the Cartridge Formats and not sure where to post, this is the place!

- Battle Spot Singles (BSS) Simple Questions
- Video Game Championships (VGC) Simple Questions

FAQ:
  • What is Cartridge Formats?
    • The Cartridge Formats forum is a combination of all things you find in the Battle Spot option when visiting the Festival Plaza in your Sun and Moon games. Battle Spot is the collection of online ranked modes on the 3DS games themselves. The modes are 3v3 Singles, 4v4 Doubles, The Official VGC Ladder, and a rotating Special Ladder that changes every season. In all modes you bring 6 Pokemon and choose the required amount at team preview (except when the special ruleset is different!).
  • How do I play Battle Spot?
    • You need to register on the Pokemon Global Link (PGL) website first. You'll need to go to the Festival Plaza in your game, go to the PC in the castle and choose Game Sync, create your Game Sync ID, then enter it on the registration page on the PGL. Now you're done! You can choose to battle from the Festival Plaza.
  • What are the rules? What's banned?
    • The simplest way of explaining the rules of Battle Spot is that it's an online, player-vs-player version of the Battle Tree. Only certain legendary Pokemon are banned (cover legends such like Lugia, Ho-oh, Solgaleo, and Lunaala, and mythical Pokemon like Mew, Celebi, and Magearna), and you can only use one of each item on your team. VGC takes this further and only allows Pokemon obtainable in the Alola region.
 
#2
What are some of the top Trick Room abusers nowadays, for singles, doubles, etc.? Basically the guys that are solid TR choices more or less regardless of format and rules changes.
 
#3
What are some of the top Trick Room abusers nowadays, for singles, doubles, etc.? Basically the guys that are solid TR choices more or less regardless of format and rules changes.
Porygon2 and ESPECIALLY Cresselia. they are the go-to trick roomers regardless of format

edit: damn it i thought you said setters not abusers. Mega Mawile is fantastic regardless of format. Heatran is also a classic and on the special side. Tapu Bulu is dope too in both formats. I've also seen Choice Band Ferro in both formats. Snorlax is also absolutely potent
 
#4
Porygon2 and ESPECIALLY Cresselia. they are the go-to trick roomers regardless of format

edit: damn it i thought you said setters not abusers. Mega Mawile is fantastic regardless of format. Heatran is also a classic and on the special side. Tapu Bulu is dope too in both formats. I've also seen Choice Band Ferro in both formats. Snorlax is also absolutely potent
Thanks! I'll breed me a TR Mawile, and keep an eye for Bulu and the Pain Heatrain.
 
#5
What is the standard CM Tapu Fini EV spread in Battle Spot Doubles? Haven't been able to find it

EDIT: Also what about the standard Celesteela ev spread?
 
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#6
It's not every day I ask a question, but I'm in a pretty unusual situation right now!

So, my trusty New 3DS XL is in pretty bad shape: the R button is totally fucked, the paint is peeling, and I'm worried about what's going to happen to it next. IDK if its just cuz its a launch one or what, but I don't think this thing has much left in the tank.

So, it seems like I can scrunge up enough cash to get a refurbished regular N3DS, which is awesome (tho at the cost of some PC games, rip). I got ONE big problem though.

Whenever you start a battle spot season, the game has always said "your ranking will be reset if you switch 3DSes". That would REALLY suck, I already got some nice progress in on Special this season, starting over would be lame!

Thing is, the message is pretty vague, so I looked it up, and according to PGL: https://3ds.pokemon-gl.com/support/2/en/manual/manual_battle/

It seems like if you do a system transfer, you keep your rating? I know I basically answered my own question, but I'm wondering if anyone else has had experience with this, because I'd like to jump ship to a new shiny 3DS asap before my big red one kicks the bucket lol, because if happens, then I'm gonna get my friend list nuked again and lose laddering time x_x
 
#7
1. What does Drifblim do in Doubles here? Its ranked there IIRC.

2. What makes Primarina so much better here than in Smogon Singles? It seems like Singles here is OU with non-legend Ubers (IE: Blaziken, Mega Salamence).
 

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1. What does Drifblim do in Doubles here? Its ranked there IIRC.

2. What makes Primarina so much better here than in Smogon Singles? It seems like Singles here is OU with non-legend Ubers (IE: Blaziken, Mega Salamence).
1) Unburden Drifblim with a Misty/Psychic Seed paired with Tapu Fini/Lele is a pretty reliable Tailwind setter, especially because it's immune to Fake Out. It has other interesting moves that work well with its doubled speed like Rain Dance/Sunny Day, Will-O-Wisp, Acrobatics, Disable, and Destiny Bond.

2) Firstly, BSS is definitely not 3v3 OU. Bringing only 3 Pokemon each battle is a big enough mechanic change on its own to separate the metagames, but the banlist is actually very different to OU. Blaziken and Salamencite being legal is just the start of it, there's also Aegislash, Gengarite, Kangaskhanite, Lucarionite, Metagrossite, and Pheromosa running around and no Diancie, Ash-Greninja, Keldeo, Kyurem-B, Magearna, or Zygarde. I know you asked about Primarina but reading the "Singles here is OU without legends" always bothers me lol.

Anyway about Primarina, Sparkling Aria hitting through Subs is pretty huge, as things like Poison Heal Gliscor, Swarm Volcarona, Curse Mimikyu, Toxic Aegislash, Leech Seed Celesteela, Toxic Heatran, Moody Glalie, Encore/Disable Mega Alakazam, and Mega Lopunny all use Substitute to function properly and can be really obnoxious strategies in 3v3. Primarina also has one of the strongest Z moves in the whole game and being able to get an easy KO in 3v3 is huge. There's also item clause in Battle Spot, so Pokemon that can make use of several items are much easier to slap on teams than ones that need a specific item to function. Primarina can use a Z move, Choice Specs, Focus Sash, or even Assault Vest very well. Finally, resisting both of Mega Blaziken's STABs is huge in BSS, while Primarina's STABs get amazing neutral coverage. It's just a super solid Pokemon in general.

edit @ below: I'm trying to avoid encouraging Minimize lol
 
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1. What does Drifblim do in Doubles here? Its ranked there IIRC.
1) Unburden Drifblim with a Misty/Psychic Seed paired with Tapu Fini/Lele is a pretty reliable Tailwind setter, especially because it's immune to Fake Out. It has other interesting moves that work well with its doubled speed like Rain Dance/Sunny Day, Will-O-Wisp, Acrobatics, Disable, and Destiny Bond.
Don't forget access to Minimize.

C'mon, we've all done it at least once.
 

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#13
Do you think we'll have a last online competition ?
If not I know Special Season 6 aka BSS UU is a good way to have fun :)
Most likely not, they had been announced right after the last one all year so considering that hasn't happened yet I think the Mega Melee was the last.
 
#14
I had a battle on the BS Doubles tody. It was against rain team, with mega Swampert. But to my suprise, Latios (Timid, 252 EVs in Speed) outsped the opponents mega. I looked at the speed calculations, and only way it shoudl be possible is if that ´pert had -Speed nature with 0 Evs.

It went like this:

Turn1:
I sent Raichu (kantonian) and Breloom, my opponent Thornadus and Weavile
Breloom uses Protect
Weavile uses Fake out on Breloom
Raichu uses Fake out on Thornadus
Thornadus flinches

Turn2:
Thornadus uses Rain Dance
Breloom uses Mach Punch on Weavile, activates Focus Sash
Weavile uses Ice punch on Breloom, activates Focus Sash (bad for me, as Breloom was my answer to Swampert)
Raichu uses Gigavolt Havoc on Thornadus, KOes it
opponent sends out swampert

Turn3:
Weavile switches into Dragonite
Raichu switches into Latios
Swampert MegaEvolves
Breloom uses Protect
Swampert uses Earthquake (not doing any damage)

Turn4:
Breloom switches into Bisharp
Latios uses Ice Beam on Dragonite, doing around 75-80% damage
Swampert uses Waterfall on Bisharp, doing around 95 % damage
Dragonite uses Dragon Pulse on Latios, doing aroung 95 % damage

Turn5:
Bisharp uses Sucker Punch on Dragonite, KOes it, is hur by Life Orb
Latios uses Draco Meteor on Swamper, doing around 65 % damage
Swampert uses Waterfall on Latios, KOes it
Opponent sends out Weavile
I send out Breloom

Turn 6
Bisharp and Breloom use Protect
Weavile uses Fake out on Bisharp
Swampert uses Waterfall on Breloom
Rain stops

Turn 7
Bisharp uses Sucker Punch on Weavile, KOes it, is hurt by Life Orb, faints from the damage
Breloom uses Bullet Seed on Swamper, KOes it

Yeah, I know I probably made a lot of mistakes, but this Swampert speed tier is weird. How in the hell did Latios outsped mega Swampert in the rain? Or is this some new and improved Swamper set I didn´t hear about? My opponents name was Jaime, and had Politoed and I think Cress in team prewiev (beside those 4 he brought)
 
#15
Uh, sorry about posting here and not in the questions thread. Yeah, I have reply of this battle (that´s how I was able to describe it in such detail). I try to record it on my phone and post a video of it.
Just type the replay code here lol, we can put it into our own 3DS that way.
 
#18
So I have searched through the threads on here but, and I could be wrong, have not encountered somewhere that really gives a crash course into doubles team building or really understanding the meta. Just looking for

-Understanding BSD Meta
-Team building(synergy/movesets)
-Intro to held items(in reference to the current meta)

Sorry if this is all somewhere and I missed.
 

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So I have searched through the threads on here but, and I could be wrong, have not encountered somewhere that really gives a crash course into doubles team building or really understanding the meta. Just looking for

-Understanding BSD Meta
-Team building(synergy/movesets)
-Intro to held items(in reference to the current meta)

Sorry if this is all somewhere and I missed.
We unfortunately do not have heaps of resources for BSD, especially not guides which seems to be what you're looking for. The best way to get a glimpse of the meta is to check out the Viability Rankings or our Usage Stats (select Doubles from the dropdown), this will also show you the best items to use on each Pokemon. Since VGC18 is looking to be extremely similar to BSD I would expect more resources to come out soon enough.
 

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