Monotype Choice Specs Gengar (Ghost)

[Rotten]

[SET]
name: Choice Specs (Ghost)
move 1: Sludge Wave
move 2: Shadow Ball
move 3: Focus Blast
move 4: Thunderbolt / Trick
item: Choice Specs
ability: Cursed Body
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Choice Specs Gengar is a potent pick as a wallbreaker on Ghost teams thanks to its high Special Attack and Speed stat along with excellent coverage options and a good typing. Sludge Wave threatens Grass- and Fairy-types such as Rillaboom, Togekiss, Primarina, and Clefable. It also massively damages any unresisted foe such as Hydreigon or Indeedee, both of which can otherwise take or ignore Shadow Ball. Focus Blast provides very important coverage against Tyranitar, Diggersby, and Incineroar. Thunderbolt pressures Water-types such as Keldeo and Toxapex, as well as Flying-types such as Corviknight, Mandibuzz, and Mantine. Trick can cripple bulky walls such as Chansey, which is otherwise hard to wear down. Gengar's Special Attack and Speed EVs alongside a Timid nature and Choice Specs allow it to hit as hard and be as fast as possible. It's also very frail, so it should be brought in against resisted attacks or predicted switches.

Dragapult serves as an efficient late-game cleaner with Dragon Dance, being able to clean teams easily and outspeed almost the entire metagame after a boost. Choice Scarf Dragapult can also be used to revenge kill fast threats such as Zeraora, Sand Rush Excadrill, and Swift Swim Kingdra. Mimikyu is a great late-game cleaner, as its ability Disguise allows it to blanket check many Pokemon and pick off weakened foes in tandem with Swords Dance and Shadow Sneak. Its unique Ghost / Fairy typing also helps it play a crucial role in revenge killing Dark-types for the team. Galarian Corsola provides a defensive backbone for the team thanks to its good bulk, which allows it to annoy physical attackers with the combination of Will-O-Wisp and Strength Sap. In addition, its access to Stealth Rock makes Gengar a more consistent wallbreaker. Aegislash is incredibly versatile, as it can be a specially defensive wall with SubToxic, wearing down special attackers such as Jirachi and Celebi, or a Swords Dance wallbreaker. Additionally, it can check other Fairy-types that Choice Specs Gengar has trouble revenge killing, such as Choice Scarf Gardevoir. Jellicent provides a useful Water immunity for Ghost teams, keeping Dracovish, Keldeo, and Barraskewda in check. Alolan Marowak and SubCM Chandelure are powerful wallbreakers that easily handle Ice, Grass, and Steel teams. Alolan Marowak provides a useful Electric immunity for Ghost teams thanks to its ability Lightning Rod. Chandelure can also punish Sucker Punch users such as Bisharp and Skuntank, which are huge threats to Ghost teams. Froslass acts as a fast Spikes setter on hyper offensive teams that can prevent entry hazards from the opposing team thanks to Taunt.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[RottenInfernape, 491896]]
- Ghost analysis by: [[RottenInfernape, 491896]]
- Quality checked by: [[Harpp, 320110]], [[maroon, 305839]]
- Grammar checked by: [[kt3, 228482]]

 

[Rotten]

Ready for QC 1/2

 

[roxie]

[SET]
name: Choice Specs (Ghost)
move 1: Sludge Wave
move 2: Shadow Ball
move 3: Focus Blast
move 4: Thunderbolt / Dazzling Gleam
move 4: Trick/Dazzling Gleam/Thunderbolt
As mentioned before in your RMT, Trick is pretty good on Gengar, and Ghost does not have a lot of things that properly deal with fat such as Toxapex. For move 4, it should be Trick/Dazzling Gleam/Thunderbolt in that order, focus blast is enough for the dark matchup and mimikyu can handle dark pretty great if setup correctly.
item: Choice Specs
ability: Cursed Body
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe mention why this spread is needed at the end of your paragraph in p1

[SET COMMENTS]
With a high Special Attack and Speed stat, Choice Specs Gengar is able function as a potent wallbreaker and revenge killer on Ghost teams. Sludge Wave is Gengar's strongest STAB move and is essentially used to effectively hit neutral Pokemon like Rotom-Heat and Indeedee, as well as Fairy-type Pokemon such as Clefable and Togekiss. Shadow Ball is capable of offensively checking threats like Hippowdon and is great against Psychic and opposing Ghost teams.(list examples of what reliable Psychic-type and Ghost-type Pokemon Shadow Ball hits) Focus Blast can be used against Dark types such as Tyranitar and Incineroar, as well as Steel types like Ferrothorn and other Pokemon that are not named Aegislash. (uneeded information, just say the FB hits Dark-type Pokemon and Steel-type Pokemon, list examples and keep it moving. Technically Focus Blast doesn't hit Doublade and Honedge, but you know, I don't feel like that line needs to be in an analysis)Thunderbolt is an important coverage option on Ghost teams for being able to effectively revenge kill Water-type teams, usually containing Pokemon such as Keldeo and Toxapex. Dazzling Gleam can be used as another option for dealing with other Dark and Dragon types, such as Mandibuzz and Kommo-o, which don't take as much from Gengar's other moves. Mention how running Trick on Gengar can cripple bulky Pokemon such as Toxapex, Corviknight and Snorlax.

Revenge killers and late-game cleaners such as Dragapult and Mimikyu appreciate Gengar's ability to take on bulkier Pokemon due to it's Choice Specs boosted power, allowing the two to play their roles with more ease. Despite Gengar's great offensive stats, it should only be used to revenge kill and wallbreak certain Pokemon, as it is constantly forced to switch out whenever it's locked into one of it's moves and is outsped by other faster revenge killers such as Dragapult and Choice Band Zeraora. Thus, Gengar highly appreciates it's teammates being able to take care of faster revenge killers and other Pokemon that can switch into Gengar's locked moves. Choice Scarf Dragapult is the fastest Pokemon on Ghost teams and is always paired with Choice Specs Gengar, as it's incredible Speed stat is capable of outspeeding +2 Cloyster(don't say +2, say Dragapult outspeeds Cloyster after one Shell Smash), Choice Scarf Dracovish and Zeraora, which can all be major threats. Corsola-Galar is a mandatory physical wall, as it can tank hits from the likes of Mamoswine and Gyarados, as well as Will-O-Wisp them to halve their Attack stats along with Strength Sap, which lowers their Attack stat and takes advantage of it by gaining reliable recovery at the same time. (GP will help you shorten this and rephrase after QC is done)Additionally, it sets up Stealth Rock for the team and it's ability in Cursed Body can also be a nuisance for opponents to deal with. SubToxic Aegislash serves as the special wall of the team, checking special attackers such as Toxtricity and Duraludon and slowly wearing off other Pokemon with the combination of Substitute + Toxic.(mention the versatility of aegislash's sets, subtoxic is not the only set it runs.) Additionally, it can check other Fairy types that Choice Specs Gengar has trouble revenge killing, such as Choice Scarf Gardevoir(with?, specify shadow sneak), and can even annoy some physical attackers with Kings Shield. Mimikyu is a great late-game cleaner on Ghost teams, as it's ability, Disguise, can potentially make Mimikyu recieve a free Swords Dance and use its good STAB moves to kill off weakened Pokemon.(mention how Mimikyu plays a crucial role in the Dark-type matchup. its the main check for dark) Chandelure is able to easily deal with Steel types for the team, and can be a threat to other Pokemon with Calm Mind and its powerful STAB moves.Mention how Chandelure can help with Bisharp(which pressures Gengar and Ghost in general with its speed) along with overall Steel- and Ice-type matchups

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[RottenInfernape, 491896]]
- Ghost analysis by: [[RottenInfernape, 491896]]
- Quality checked by: [[<username1>, <userid1>], [<username2>, <userid2>]]
- Grammar checked by: [[<username1>, <userid1>]]

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[Rotten]

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Thanks for the AM check

After DLC and rewriting, this is now ready again for QC!

 

[Rotten]

Bumping so both analyses could be put at 1/2 :) (No rush!)

 

[Harpp]

[SET COMMENTS]
* ' Shadow Ball is a powerful STAB move, being very spammable against Psychic-types and opposing Ghost team' This is not entirely true, since psychic teams have indeedee so gengar cannot really spam Shadow ball against the type. Instead I want you to add matchups like Water, Steel and Ground which have really hard time switching into specs shadow ball.

* ' Sludge Wave can threaten Grass- and Fairy-types such as Tangrowth, Togekiss, and Clefable, and massively damages any unresisted foe such as Amoonguss and Rotom-H.' Tangrowth is not even on VR so please remove it. You can add Rillaboom over it. Amoongus and Rotom-H are also hit hard by Shadow Ball so here give examples of Pokemon that resist Shadow Ball but take a lot of damage from Sludge wave like Hydreigon, and Incineroar.

* ' Dazzling Gleam allows Gengar to hit Sableye, Mandibuzz, and Kommo-o super effectively.' Add Urshifu and Hydreigon to the list, remove sableye.

* You may also give 1-2 usage tip on how to use Specs Gengar during battle.

* ' Choice Scarf Dragapult serves as an efficient revenge killer and cleaner, as its amazing Speed stat is capable of outspeeding multiple threats such as Gardevoir, Volcarona, and Kingdra.' Elaborate a bit more here with your examples. Say Choice Scarf Gardevoir, and Kingdra in Rain. Remove Volcarona since Dragapult with choice Scarf and special set cannot really revenge KO volcarona after a Quiver Dance boost.
252 SpA Dragapult Draco Meteor vs. +1 0 HP / 0 SpD Volcarona: 114-135 (36.6 - 43.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO.
You can add sand rush excadrill instead.

* ' Galarian Corsola provides a defensive backbone for the team, stopping most physical attackers with the combination of Will-O-Wisp and Strength Sap. In addition, it can set up Stealth Rock along with Alolan Marowak, making Gengar a more consistent wallbreaker.' Talk about Alolan Marowak separately, and mention how it can wallbreak with a Swords Dance set, forming a wallbreaking core with Specs Gengar, then mention its added benefit of providing the team with a nifty immunity from Electric-type attacks.

* 'SubCM Chandelure is another powerful wallbreaker that easily handles Ice, Grass, and Steel teams.' mention it checking Bisharp.

* Add Spikes Froslass as a teammate.

QC 1/2

 

[Rotten]

Implemented, ready for QC 2/2!

 

[maroon]

- move sludge wave to the 1st move and make shadow ball the 2nd move. on the fourth move slot, slash Thunderbolt / Trick and completely remove Dazzling Gleam. reorder these in the paragraph as well.
- when you move sludge wave to slot 1 make it clear that its the go-to move, also in the shadow ball sentence just say its strong Ghost STAB. You don't need more than that since its for Ghost. add primarina to sludge wave targets
- mention thunderbolt hits flying types namely corviknight and mandibuzz
- gastrodon feels like a weird example for trick, I think just keeping it as Chansey is fine tbh
- i told you to remove dgleam because i would never use it but ill explain why these explains are blah anyway. urshifu just clicks sucker punch vs gengar, hydreigon gets hit by focus blast, mandi gets hit by tbolt, and kommo is trash
- add a line in the first paragraph that explains choice specs + its evs/nature allow it to hit as fast and powerful as possible or something along those lines
- would mention dragon dance dragapult as the teammate over scarf. you can give a short mention on scarf after the dd sentence.
- move froslass to the last teammate of the paragraph
- galarian corsola is the best hazard setter on ghost teams
- explain subtoxic aegi a bit more, make its own sentence and move it before the offensive set
- make mimikyu the teammate after dragapult, it and gengar form the most potent offensive core for ghost teams
- talk about chandelure and alolan marowak and say how they fill similar roles (steelbreaker) but in different ways. keep the part abt marowaks elec immunity in there
- add jellicent as a water immunity, shit like dracovish is p common and its a good pokemon on ghost teams

tag me here when you implement all of this and then i will stamp it!

edit: talked on discord, once those changes are implemented consider this QC 2/2!

 

[Rotten]

I implemented these quickly maroon, it should be ready now after some looks!

 

[Rotten]

Implemented, sending to GP!

 

[Milak]

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name: Choice Specs (Ghost)
move 1: Sludge Wave
move 2: Shadow Ball
move 3: Focus Blast
move 4: Thunderbolt / Trick
item: Choice Specs
ability: Cursed Body
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Choice Specs Gengar is a potent pick as a wallbreaker on Ghost teams,(RC) thanks to its high Special Attack and Speed stat along with excellent coverage options and a good typing. Sludge Wave threatens Grass- and Fairy-types such as Rillaboom, Togekiss, Primarina, and Clefable. It also massively damages any unresisted foe such as Hydreigon and or Indeedee, both of which can otherwise take hits from and ignore Shadow Ball,(AC) respectively (less vague and more specific). Shadow Ball is a powerful STAB move that hits Pokemon who that resist Sludge Wave. Focus Blast is provides very important coverage that's used against Tyranitar, Diggersby, and Incineroar. Thunderbolt pressures Water-types such as Keldeo and Toxapex, as well as Flying-types such as Corviknight, Mandibuzz, and Mantine. Trick can cripple bulky walls such as Chansey, which is otherwise hard to wear down. Its Special Attack and Speed EVs alongside a Timid Nature and a Choice Specs allows allow Gengar to hit as hard and be as fast as possible. It's also very frail, so it should be brought in against resisted attacks or predicted switches.

Dragapult serves as an efficient late game late-game(AH) cleaner with Dragon Dance, being able to clean teams easily and outspeed almost the entire metagame after a boost. Choice Scarf Dragapult can also be used to revenge kill fast threats such as Zeraora, Sand Rush Excadrill, and Kingdra under rain. Mimikyu is a great late-game cleaner, as its ability Disguise allows it to blanket check many Pokemon and pick off weakened Pokemon thanks to Swords Dance and a priority move in Shadow Sneak. Its unique Ghost / Fairy typing also helps it play a crucial role in revenge killing Dark-types for the team. Galarian Corsola provides a defensive backbone for the team thanks to its good bulk, which allows it to annoy physical attackers with the combination of Will-O-Wisp and Strength Sap. In addition, its access to Stealth Rock make makes Gengar a more consistent wallbreaker. Aegislash is incredibly verstatile versatile, as it can be a specially defensive wall with SubToxic, wearing down special attackers such as Jirachi and Celebi, or a Swords Dance wallbreaker. Additionally, it can check other Fairy-types that Choice Specs Gengar has trouble revenge killing, such as Choice Scarf Gardevoir. Jellicent provides a useful Water-immunity(RH) Water immunity for Ghost teams, keeping Dracovish, Keldeo, and Barraskewda in check. SubCM Chandelure and Alolan Marowak are powerful wallbreakers that easily handle Ice, Grass, and Steel teams. Chandelure can also punish Sucker Punch users such as Bisharp and Skuntank, which are huge threats to Ghost teams. Alolan Marowak provides a useful Electric-immunity(RH) Electric immunity for Ghost teams thanks to its ability Lightning Rod. Froslass acts as a fast Spikes setter on hyper offensive teams that can prevent hazards from the opposing team thanks to Taunt.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[RottenInfernape, 491896]]
- Ghost analysis by: [[RottenInfernape, 491896]]
- Quality checked by: [[Harpp, 320110]], [[maroon, 305839]]
- Grammar checked by: [[<username1>, <userid1>]]

 

[Rotten]

Thanks for your AM check, I implemented lots of it!

 

[kt3]

reserving

 

[kt3]

GP 1/1

gengar

name: Choice Specs (Ghost)
move 1: Sludge Wave
move 2: Shadow Ball
move 3: Focus Blast
move 4: Thunderbolt / Trick
item: Choice Specs
ability: Cursed Body
nature: Timid
evs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Choice Specs Gengar is a potent pick as a wallbreaker on Ghost teams (RC) thanks to its high Special Attack and Speed stat along with excellent coverage options and a good typing. Sludge Wave threatens Grass- and Fairy-types such as Rillaboom, Togekiss, Primarina, and Clefable. It also massively damages any unresisted foe such as Hydreigon or Indeedee, both of which can otherwise take and or ignore Shadow Ball respectively. Shadow Ball is a powerful STAB move used for Pokemon that resist Sludge Wave (I don't think this is really necessary). Focus Blast provides very important coverage against Tyranitar, Diggersby, and Incineroar. Thunderbolt pressures Water-types such as Keldeo and Toxapex, as well as Flying-types such as Corviknight, Mandibuzz, and Mantine. Trick can cripple bulky walls such as Chansey, which is otherwise hard to wear down. Its Gengar's Special Attack and Speed EVs alongside a Timid Nature nature and Choice Specs allow Gengar it to hit as hard and be as fast as possible. It's also very frail, so it should be brought in against resisted attacks or predicted switches.

Dragapult serves as an efficient late-game cleaner with Dragon Dance, being able to clean teams easily and outspeed almost the entire metagame after a boost. Choice Scarf Dragapult can also be used to revenge kill fast threats such as Zeraora, Sand Rush Excadrill, and Swift Swim Kingdra under rain (this should be more consistent, though not really an obligatory change). Mimikyu is a great late-game cleaner, as its ability Disguise allows it to blanket check many Pokemon and pick off weakened Pokemon thanks to foes in tandem with Swords Dance and a priority move in Shadow Sneak. Its unique Ghost / Fairy typing also helps it play a crucial role in revenge killing Dark-types for the team. Galarian Corsola provides a defensive backbone for the team thanks to its good bulk, which allows it to annoy physical attackers with the combination of Will-O-Wisp and Strength Sap. In addition, its access to Stealth Rock makes Gengar a more consistent wallbreaker. Aegislash is incredibly versatile, as it can be a specially defensive wall with SubToxic, wearing down special attackers such as Jirachi and Celebi, or a Swords Dance wallbreaker. Additionally, it can check other Fairy-types that Choice Specs Gengar has trouble revenge killing, such as Choice Scarf Gardevoir. Jellicent provides a useful Water immunity for Ghost teams, keeping Dracovish, Keldeo, and Barraskewda in check. SubCM Chandelure and Alolan Marowak (I'd like these two swapped so Marowak can't be read as SubCM as well) are powerful wallbreakers that easily handle Ice, Grass, and Steel teams. Chandelure can also punish Sucker Punch users such as Bisharp and Skuntank, which are huge threats to Ghost teams. Alolan Marowak provides a useful Electric immunity for Ghost teams thanks to its ability Lightning Rod. Froslass acts as a fast Spikes setter on hyper offensive teams that can prevent entry hazards from the opposing team thanks to Taunt.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[RottenInfernape, 491896]]
- Ghost analysis by: [[RottenInfernape, 491896]]
- Quality checked by: [[Harpp, 320110]], [[maroon, 305839]]
- Grammar checked by: [[kt3, 228482]]

Milak, nobody really does this anymore, but you did a really good job here. I'm stamping this amcheck. My select gripes are in here (read my check too hehe; hmu on Discord for any qs):

for the amchecker

my comments are in violet

It also massively damages any unresisted foe such as Hydreigon and or Indeedee, both of which can otherwise take hits from and ignore Shadow Ball,(AC) respectively (less vague and more specific).

(the "or" change was really good, though I'm kinda iffy on the changes on the "which" phrase. I think it can be rewritten / edited more concisely and without resorting to using "respectively" (most of the time, respectively can be avoided, as readers mostly know the which ones refer to which. I would have _personally_ done one of the following:

"It also massively damages any unresisted foe such as Hydreigon or Indeedee, which can otherwise take or ignore Shadow Ball."

"It also massively damages any unresisted foe such as Hydreigon or Indeedee, which are otherwise resistant or immune to Shadow Ball."

Note the "or" between "take" and "ignore" here. I feel like it fits better than "and". Then again, these are just nitpicks.)


Its Special Attack and Speed EVs alongside a Timid Nature and a (I think this should not be here; you also missed "Nature") Choice Specs allows allow Gengar to hit as hard and be as fast as possible.

 

[Rotten]

Thank you! This is ready for the first upload =]

 

[kt3]

a Timid Nature nature and Choice Specs allow it to hit as hard and be as fast as possible

Missed this one.

EDIT: @2below, good catch. That's mb, sorry.

 

[Rotten]

Missed this one.

I checked it over again. All good

 

[Milak]

I think [SET] is missing right on top of the analysis, before the set is displayed.

 

[Havens]

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