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Caesarr

formerly CaesarzeppeliXD
Jumbao @ Leftovers
Ability: Trace
EVs: 252 HP / 180 SpD / 76 Spe
Bold Nature
- Moonblast
- Leaf storm
- Wish
- Protect

-1 252+ Atk Choice Band Landorus-Therian U-turn vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Jumbao: 93-110 (23.9 - 28.3%) -- 95.6% chance to 4HKO
 
:ss/flareon:
Flareon @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Guts
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Facade
- Flame Charge
- Quick Attack
- Superpower

0 SpA Jumbao Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Flareon: 57-67 (21 - 24.7%) -- guaranteed 5HKO after toxic damage
0 SpA Jumbao Leaf Storm vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Flareon: 77-91 (28.4 - 33.5%) -- 0.2% chance to 3HKO after toxic damage

252 Atk Flareon Flame Charge vs. 252 HP / 0+ Def Jumbao: 152-182 (39.1 - 46.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Guts Flareon Flame Charge vs. 252 HP / 0+ Def Jumbao: 230-272 (59.2 - 70.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

Yeah, Flareon will live what Jumbao throws at it.
 

Caesarr

formerly CaesarzeppeliXD
Cyclohm @ Heavy-Duty boots
Ability: Static
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
- Volt switch
- Flamethrower
- Toxic
- Slack Off

252+ Atk Guts Flareon Facade (140 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Cyclohm: 161-190 (38.3 - 45.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

Heavy duty boots avoid the possible ko if the rocks are on the field
 
:ss/latios:
Latios (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Defog
- Psychic
- Draco Meteor
- Mystical Fire

0 SpA Cyclohm Volt Switch vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Latios: 38-45 (12.6 - 14.9%) -- possibly the worst move ever
0 SpA Cyclohm Flamethrower vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Latios: 33-39 (10.9 - 12.9%) -- possibly the worst move ever

252 SpA Latios Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Cyclohm: 566-668 (134.7 - 159%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Latios Psychic vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Cyclohm: 196-232 (46.6 - 55.2%) -- 70.3% chance to 2HKO
 
Let's have a little fun, shall we? — Melmetal learns Double Iron Bash.

Melmetal @ Assault Vest
Ability: Iron Fist
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Double Iron Bash
- Earthquake
- Thunder Punch
- Superpower

252 SpA Latios Mystical Fire vs. 4 HP / 252 SpD Assault Vest Melmetal: 112-134 (27.1 - 32.5%) -- 4.7% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock

252+ Atk Iron Fist Melmetal Double Iron Bash (2 hits) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Latios: 336-396 (111.6 - 131.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 
Let's have a little fun, shall we? — Melmetal learns Double Iron Bash.'s have a little fun, shall we? — Melmetal learns Double Iron Bash.

Melmetal @ Assault Vest
Ability: Iron Fist
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Double Iron Bash
- Earthquake
- Thunder Punch
- Superpower

252 SpA Latios Mystical Fire vs. 4 HP / 252 SpD Assault Vest Melmetal: 112-134 (27.1 - 32.5%) -- 4.7% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock

252+ Atk Iron Fist Melmetal Double Iron Bash (2 hits) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Latios: 336-396 (111.6 - 131.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Now THAT is a very hard counter xD
 
:sm/buzzwole:
Buzzwole @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 252 HP / 152 Def / 104 Spe
Impish Nature
- Drain Punch
- Ice Punch
- Roost
- Bulk Up


0 Atk Buzzwole Drain Punch vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Melmetal: 134-158 (28.2 - 33.3%) -- 0% chance to 3HKO

252+ Atk Melmetal Double Iron Bash (2 hits) vs. 252 HP / 144+ Def Buzzwole: 144-170 (34.4 - 40.6%) -- approx. 3HKO

Melmetal doesnt outspeed, and Rocky hemlet heavily chips it whenever it uses its stab move. We also can roost/bulk up on em.
 
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Moltres @ Heavy-Duty Boots
Ability: Flame Body
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Fire Blast
- Hurricane
- Scorching Sands
- Roost
0 Atk Buzzwole Drain Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Moltres: 59-69 (18.3 - 21.4%) -- possible 5HKO
0 Atk Buzzwole Ice Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Moltres: 79-93 (24.6 - 28.9%) -- 99.5% chance to 4HKO
+1 0 Atk Buzzwole Drain Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Moltres: 88-104 (27.4 - 32.3%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
+1 0 Atk Buzzwole Ice Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Moltres: 118-139 (36.7 - 43.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

252+ SpA Moltres Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Buzzwole: 638-752 (152.6 - 179.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Moltres Hurricane vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Buzzwole: 1276-1504 (305.2 - 359.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 
:ss/tyrantrum:
Tyrantrum @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Rock Head
EVs: 252 Atk / 68 SpD / 188 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Close Combat
- Head Smash
- Dragon Claw
- Fire Fang

252+ SpA Moltres Scorching Sands vs. 0 HP / 68 SpD Tyrantrum: 226-266 (74 - 87.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Moltres Scorching Sands vs. 0 HP / 68 SpD Tyrantrum: 226-266 (74 - 87.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock

252+ Atk Tyrantrum Head Smash vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Moltres: 1120-1320 (348.9 - 411.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk burned Tyrantrum Head Smash vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Moltres: 560-660 (174.4 - 205.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 
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Tyrantrum @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Rock Head
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Close Combat
- Head Smash
- Dragon Claw
- Fire Fang

252+ SpA Moltres Scorching Sands vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Tyrantrum: 248-294 (81.3 - 96.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ Atk Tyrantrum Head Smash vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Moltres: 1120-1320 (348.9 - 411.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk burned Tyrantrum Head Smash vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Moltres: 560-660 (174.4 - 205.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
You forgot rocks
252+ SpA Moltres Scorching Sands vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Tyrantrum: 248-294 (81.3 - 96.3%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
 

BP

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Corsola-Galar @ Eviolite
Ability: Cursed Body
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Stealth Rock
- Strength Sap
- Whirlpool
- Night Shade


252+ Atk Tyrantrum Head Smash vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Corsola-Galar: 124-147 (38.2 - 45.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

I shouldn't have to explain this but I'm going to anyway. Corsola stalls out T-rex with Strength Sap, Whirlpool, and Nightshade. Additionally, it also gets rocks up for free
 

Caesarr

formerly CaesarzeppeliXD
Bisharp @ Life Orb
Ability: Defiant
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Knock Off
- Sucker Punch
- Iron Head

Why i need calcs for whirlpool?

0 SpA Corsola-Galar Whirlpool vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Bisharp: 24-29 (8.8 - 10.7%) -- possible 5HKO after trapping damage
 
:ss/cobalion:
Cobalion @ Life Orb
Ability: Justified
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Iron Head
- Close Combat
- Megahorn

252 Atk Life Orb Bisharp Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Cobalion: 81-95 (25 - 29.4%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Stealth Rock
252 Atk Life Orb Bisharp Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Cobalion: 58-69 (17.9 - 21.3%) -- possible 5HKO after Stealth Rock
252 Atk Life Orb Bisharp Iron Head vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Cobalion: 66-78 (20.4 - 24.1%) -- guaranteed 5HKO after Stealth Rock

252 Atk Life Orb Cobalion Close Combat vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Bisharp: 795-941 (293.3 - 347.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 
Don't worry. There's a guy to get the job done.
:swsh/aegislash::swsh/aegislash-blade:
Aegislash @ Leftovers
Ability: Stance Change
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature
- Close Combat
- King's Shield
- Substitute
- Swords Dance

I guess I'll also support calcs lol (the entire point is to sub + swords then close combat)
252 Atk Life Orb Cobalion Iron Head vs. 0 HP / 252+ Def Aegislash-Shield: 38-45 (14.5 - 17.2%) -- possible 9HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Life Orb Cobalion Megahorn vs. 0 HP / 252+ Def Aegislash-Shield: 18-22 (6.8 - 8.4%) -- possibly the worst move ever

252 Atk Aegislash-Blade Close Combat vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Cobalion: 222-262 (68.7 - 81.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
 
:ss/chandelure:
Chandelure @ Life Orb
Ability: Infiltrator
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Fire Blast
- Hex
- Energy Ball
- Will-O-Wisp

Aegislash can't hit it

252 SpA Life Orb Chandelure Fire Blast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Aegislash-Blade: 873-1029 (334.4 - 394.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Life Orb Chandelure Hex (65 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Aegislash-Blade: 517-611 (198 - 234%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 

shadowpea

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Chandelure! I love Chandelure! YAAAAAAAAAAAY!
On the other hand, my job is to kill it, so...

Heatran @ Leftovers
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 176 SpD / 80 Spe
Calm Nature
- Lava Plume
- Toxic
- Protect
- Earth Power

252 SpA Life Orb Chandelure Hex (65 BP) vs. 252 HP / 176+ SpD Heatran: 110-133 (28.4 - 34.4%) -- 98.6% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Life Orb Chandelure Energy Ball vs. 252 HP / 176+ SpD Heatran: 25-30 (6.4 - 7.7%) -- possibly the worst move ever

0 SpA Heatran Earth Power vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Chandelure: 178-210 (68.1 - 80.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
 
:ss/volcanion:
Volcanion @ Choice Specs
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 248 HP / 120 SpA / 140 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Steam Eruption
- Flamethrower
- Earth Power
- Defog

Outspeeds by a single point
0 SpA Heatran Earth Power vs. 248 HP / 0 SpD Volcanion: 178-210 (49 - 57.8%) -- 96.1% chance to 2HKO

120+ SpA Choice Specs Volcanion Steam Eruption vs. 252 HP / 176+ SpD Heatran: 396-468 (102.5 - 121.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
120+ SpA Choice Specs Volcanion Earth Power vs. 252 HP / 176+ SpD Heatran: 432-512 (111.9 - 132.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Edit: Messed up, it was meant to be specs. Still, Miasmaw doesn't work due to a 2HKO either way and being unable to OHKO, thus being unable to switch in
 
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BP

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Miasmaw @ Weakness Policy
Ability: Neutralizing Gas
EVs: 48 HP / 100 Atk / 100 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Recover
- Bulk Up
- Earthquake
- Leech Life


120+ SpA Volcanion Flamethrower vs. 48 HP / 100 SpD Miasmaw: 151-178 (46.7 - 55.1%) -- 68% chance to 2HKO
100 Atk Expert Belt Miasmaw Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Volcanion: 206-245 (56.7 - 67.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

I hit with Leech to pop the balloon and kill with EQ in two turns after a Recover
 
:swsh/stratagem:
Stratagem @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Paleo Wave
- Dazzling Gleam
- Power Gem
- Toxic

100 Atk Miasmaw Leech Life vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Stratagem: 171-202 (53.1 - 62.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (it outspeeds so this doesnt matter)
Miasmaw Earthquake vs. Levitate Stratagem: 0-0 (0 - 0%) -- possibly the worst move ever

252+ SpA Life Orb Stratagem Paleo Wave vs. 48 HP / 100 SpD Miasmaw: 382-452 (118.2 - 139.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Life Orb Stratagem Dazzling Gleam vs. 48 HP / 100 SpD Miasmaw: 242-286 (74.9 - 88.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after poison damage
252+ SpA Life Orb Stratagem Power Gem vs. 48 HP / 100 SpD Miasmaw: 361-429 (111.7 - 132.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Click toxic then sweep. It's that simple.
 

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Miasmaw @ Weakness Policy
Ability: Neutralizing Gas
EVs: 48 HP / 100 Atk / 100 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Recover
- Bulk Up
- Earthquake
- Leech Life


120+ SpA Volcanion Flamethrower vs. 48 HP / 100 SpD Miasmaw: 151-178 (46.7 - 55.1%) -- 68% chance to 2HKO
100 Atk Expert Belt Miasmaw Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Volcanion: 206-245 (56.7 - 67.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

I hit with Leech to pop the balloon and kill with EQ in two turns after a Recover
Unfortunately, that doesn't work as Volcanion has a chance bigger than 50% to 2HKO Miasmaw even without Specs, and Miasmaw fails to OHKO it in return.
 

MrPanda

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Does mine still count, though?
So, with Miasmaw out of game, Volcanion is the one to look at, and Stratagem surely don't counter it. Still, note that Neutralizing Gas would nullify Levitate, therefore you should take Earthquake into account as well.
 
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shadowpea

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Dragonite @ Weakness Policy
Ability: Multiscale
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Dual Wingbeat
- Extreme Speed
- Earthquake

252 Atk Dragonite Earthquake vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Volcanion: 192-226 (52.8 - 62.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

120+ SpA Choice Specs Volcanion Steam Eruption vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Multiscale Dragonite: 67-79 (20.7 - 24.4%) -- guaranteed 5HKO
120+ SpA Choice Specs Volcanion Steam Eruption vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Dragonite: 134-158 (41.4 - 48.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
120+ SpA Choice Specs Volcanion Flamethrower vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Multiscale Dragonite: 55-64 (17 - 19.8%) -- guaranteed 6HKO
120+ SpA Choice Specs Volcanion Flamethrower vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Dragonite: 110-129 (34 - 39.9%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
 
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