I second this nom! This is by far one of the most dangerous pokemon in the tier with insane breaking but also supportive power being able to net in kills is insane and should definitely see a rise in S-, as I think it made its way up to be one of the top uber Pokemon in a very short timeframe. This is only reflected by SCL usage and how dangerous it performed in a lot of those games, to name one or two games: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen8ubers-578579 SoulWind vs Manaphy Week 1--> S-
Groudon is so ridiculously good that I think it deserves the creation of an S- rank. Either Calyrex-S or Necrozma-DM could join it imo, but it's clearly proven to be one of the metas most defining Pokemon by a large bit.
Speaking of Zekrom I'm personally going to Disagree with this and say keep Zekrom where it stands. Personally i think Zekrom still remains as a strong presence in the tier and actually functions as a solid partner to Groudon, bouncing off eachother nicely and pressuring pokemon who double down on them to sometimes pick and choose which one it can handle because often times it can't do both. Its also nice at Luring Groudon out with sets like Life Orb Draco Meteor or Magnet Rise DD forcing its hand, and honestly its not extremely hard to weaken Groudon to where Zekrom can clean house. It's still just as dangerous as ever and i think it should stay where it is.
Another big loser of Groudon getting popular. Sure, special sets are a thing but it was ranked this highly to begin with cause of its DDance set, and its gotten much worse. Same as for Sand, Buzzwole and Landorus-Therian also getting more usage dont help it at all. Still a good Pokemon, but its not that good anymore. Would probably put it in A- on top of Ho-Oh.
You outta be demoted for that giratina-o placementhttps://tiermaker.com/create/ubers-viability-ranking-1337570
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