LC Dewpider

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[OVERVIEW]
Dewpider stands out as LC's premier Sticky Web setter due to its ability Water Bubble and decent bulk. These traits, in tandem with its typing, allow Dewpider to pressure prominent threats such as Ponyta, Mienfoo, and Timburr, limiting the latter's ability to successfully utilize Defog. However, Dewpider's typing and lackluster Speed stat give it a weakness to Stealth Rock and leave it vulnerable to common threats such as Onix, Vullaby, and Wingull. Furthermore, Dewpider suffers from a mediocre Special Attack stat, resulting in low damage output from attacks not boosted by Water Bubble.

[SET]
name: Sticky Web
move 1: Sticky Web
move 2: Surf
move 3: Icy Wind
move 4: Giga Drain
item: Focus Sash / Berry Juice
ability: Water Bubble
nature: Modest
evs: 52 HP / 20 Def / 196 SpA / 20 SpD / 220 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Sticky Web provides crucial speed control for Dewpider's teammates. Boosted by Water Bubble, Surf is an immensely powerful move that threatens common foes such as Ponyta and Mienfoo. Icy Wind allows Dewpider to slow down faster threats such as Vullaby and Wingull that switch into it and KO them afterwards with Surf, while Giga Drain serves as coverage against opposing Water-types like Staryu.

Set Details
========

Water Bubble doubles the power of Dewpider's Surf, halves the damage of Fire-type moves, and gives it an immunity to burns, letting it check non-Wild Charge variants of Ponyta. The EV spread maximizes Special Attack and Speed, allowing Dewpider to Speed tie with fast Timburr and outspeed Onix and Vullaby after a Speed drop from Sticky Web or Icy Wind, respectively. Focus Sash is the preferred item, allowing Dewpider to always set up Sticky Web against non-multi-hit moves at full health, although Berry Juice can be utilized to provide recovery.

Usage Tips
========

Dewpider is capable of functioning as a lead, setting Sticky Web early and using Icy Wind to provide speed control that can be taken advantage of by its teammates. Furthermore, it is able to punish opposing Defoggers such as Timburr and Vullaby when they switch in by severely damaging them with a powerful Water Bubble-boosted Surf or, in the case of Vullaby, hitting it with Icy Wind. Dewpider can also switch in on Pokemon such as Mienfoo, Timburr, and Ponyta and force them out to set Sticky Web. However, it should not lead or stay in to set Sticky Web against faster threats such as Vullaby and Onix that can KO it easily.

Team Options
========

Wallbreakers and sweepers such as Grookey, Dragon Dance Scraggy, Nasty Plot Vullaby, and Woobat appreciate the valuable speed control provided by Sticky Web to outspeed foes. Pawniard can take advantage of Dewpider setting Sticky Web to gain a Defiant boost; checks to it such as Timburr, Mienfoo, and Mudbray are valuable teammates. Since Flying-types like Vullaby and Wingull ignore Sticky Web and can OHKO Dewpider, checks to them like Onix, Magnemite, and Chinchou are helpful, although Chinchou is mediocre outside of this role. Finally, trapping support from Diglett and Trapinch can be helpful, removing Pokemon like Onix and Mareanie that threaten Dewpider.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Substitute can be used in tandem with Berry Juice to set up on Timburr and Ponyta and provide more opportunities to attack. Magic Coat allows Dewpider to bounce back entry hazards and status moves from Ferroseed and Toxic Spikes Mareanie and retain momentum. Mirror Coat lets Dewpider threaten unsuspecting Mareanie and Foongus that carelessly fire off Sludge Bomb.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Water-resistant Pokemon**: Mareanie, Foongus, and Ferroseed resist Dewpider's STAB moves. The former two can punish Dewpider with a strong Sludge Bomb, while the latter can cripple it with Thunder Wave or Knock Off. Staryu critically damages Dewpider with Thunderbolt and can utilize Rapid Spin to remove Sticky Web.

** Grookey**: Grookey can OHKO Dewpider with Wood Hammer and revenge kill a weakened one with Grassy Glide.

**Flying-types**: Flying-types such as Vullaby and Wingull outspeed Dewpider and can KO it with Brave Bird and Hurricane, respectively. Vullaby's superb bulk, complemented by its immunity to Sticky Web, allows it to serve as the best Sticky Web remover.

**Rock-types**: Onix, Archen, and Tyrunt outspeed Dewpider and threaten it with a powerful Head Smash or Rock Blast. Sturdy + Berry Juice Onix can survive a Surf and recover back to full health, potentially letting it attack or set Stealth Rock, while Archen is immune to Sticky Web and can KO Dewpider through its Focus Sash with Dual Wingbeat or Rock Blast.

**Croagunk**: Croagunk is immune to Surf thanks to Dry Skin and does not take much damage from Dewpider's other moves. It can utilize Nasty Plot to set up on Dewpider and become a formidable offensive threat.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[DC, 449990]]
- Quality checked by: [[KSG, 32350], [Fiend, 208173], [San Tomas, 255030]]
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Dewpider suffers from a mediocre Special Attack, resulting in low damage output from attacks not boosted by Water Bubble
I would recommend you mention special attackers that outclass Dewpider, such as Chinchou and Vullaby.

Scald is preferred as Dewpider's main STAB move due to having a chance to burn opposing physical attackers
I would recommend for you to remove the part saying that Scald is STAB (common sense). I would recommend for you to only say that Scald is important due to the burn chance.

Usage Tips
========
I would recommend Dewpider being able to switch into potential Will-o-Wisps.

Team Options
========
I would recommend adding physical attackers to the team options due to them appreciating Dewpider absorbing burns. Also add that Dewpider’s best fit is on HO that appreciate a lead.

Other Options
=============
Try adding Focus Sash so that it is able to guarantee a turn of being able to set up.

Great job on this analysis!:blobthumbsup:
 
yep. this is the analysis that time forgot.

  • You should mention Dewp's bulk alongside Water Bubble as this is as much a reason to set webs with it as anything else.
  • Mention being a fighting-resist to check Mienfoo
  • Include that its typing and strength lets it beat Defog Timburr.
  • Speed and rocks weakness are more important than the weakness of, say, coverage Giga Drain. I'd emphasize these in the overview.

  • Mention how powerful these water stabs are
  • I would generally prefer Surf to hit Vull harder, but I don't have strong feelings about this so i'll leave it to somebody else
  • move Staryu ahead of Corphish
  • replace Oddish with Foongus

  • I'm not sure about this spread, but i'll leave that to somebody who's more familiar with the mon. For now, emphasize that 13 speed lets you beat fast Timburr
  • cut this sentence about eviolite numbers since you immediately follow up with "Berry Juice is the preferred item"

  • "Defog users", not "Defoggers"
  • Mention Icy Wind to hit Vull on the switch in
  • Replace Corphish and Krabby with Mienfoo and Ponyta

  • Talk about Sticky Web hitters more generally here imo. Replace SD Fetchd with Reckless Mienfoo and mention NP Vull somewhere.
  • Mention Pawniard before Chinchou here.
  • Why are checks to Mienfoo and Mudbray "also valuable" if Dewp is a check to those mons
  • Drop the Croagunk mention

  • Put Staryu at the forefront of the bulky Water section and mention Tbolt/spin
  • Talk more about Vullaby's bulk and role as the best Defog user

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[SET]
name: Sticky Web
move 1: Sticky Web
move 2: Surf / Scald Scald sucks
move 3: Icy Wind
move 4: Giga Drain / Mirror Coat
item: Berry Juice / Eviolite
ability: Water Bubble
nature: Modest
evs: 52 HP / 20 Def / 196 SpA / 20 SpD / 220 Spe

Team Options
========
toss in mag and onix. make chinchou the last point and mention how it does little besides check the dastardly flying types but does it well

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============
Make the Sub + BJ bit first.
magic coat as #2 for sr, tspikes; momentum


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[usage tips]
  • The typical Dewpider lead, in my experience, gains a lot from using Icy Wind T2 to make sure that the thing it's up against is slower than whatever you're about to bring in. Could use a mention here I think.
[other options]
  • Scarf Dewpider only hits 19 Speed. That means it is an error to say it outspeeds the unboosted meta. This option shouldn't even be mentioned; it's so much worse than anything else Dewp can run.
outside of that, solid stuff!

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[OVERVIEW]

Dewpider stands out as LC's premier Sticky Web setter due to its ability Water Bubble and decent bulk. This, in tandem with its typing, allows Dewpider to pressure prominent threats such as Ponyta, Mienfoo, and Timburr, limiting the latter's ability to successfully utilize Defog. However, Dewpider's typing and lackluster Speed stat give it a weakness to Stealth Rock and leave it vulnerable to common threats such as Onix, Vullaby, and Wingull. Furthermore, Dewpider suffers from a mediocre Special Attack stat, resulting in low damage output from attacks not boosted by Water Bubble.

[SET]
name: Sticky Web
move 1: Sticky Web
move 2: Surf
move 3: Icy Wind
move 4: Giga Drain
item: Focus Sash / Berry Juice
ability: Water Bubble
nature: Modest
evs: 52 HP / 20 Def / 196 SpA / 20 SpD / 220 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Sticky Web provides crucial speed control for Dewpider's teammates. Boosted by Water Bubble, Surf is an immensely powerful move that threatens common foes such as Ponyta and Mienfoo. Icy Wind allows Dewpider to slow down faster threats such as Vullaby and Wingull that switch into it and KO them afterwards with Surf, while Giga Drain serves as coverage against opposing Water-types like Staryu.

Set Details
========

Water Bubble doubles the power of Dewpider's Surf, halves the damage of Fire-type moves, and gives it an immunity to burns, letting Dewpider check non-Wild Charge variants of Ponyta. The EV spread maximizes Special Attack and Speed, allowing Dewpider to Speed tie with fast Timburr and outspeed Onix and Vullaby after a Speed drop from Sticky Web or Icy Wind, respectively. Focus Sash is the preferred item, allowing Dewpider to always set up Sticky Web against non multi-hit moves at full health, although Berry Juice can be utilized to provide recovery.

Usage Tips
========

Dewpider is capable of functioning as a lead, setting up Sticky Web early and using Icy Wind to provide speed control that can be taken advantage of by its teammates. Furthermore, it is able to punish switch-ins from opposing Defog users such as Timburr and Vullaby by severely damaging them with a powerful Water Bubble-boosted Surfs or, (AC) in the case of Vullaby, hitting it with Icy Wind. Dewpider can also switch in on Pokemon such as Mienfoo, Timburr, and Ponyta and force them out to set up Sticky Web. However, it should not lead or stay in to set up Sticky Web against faster threats such as Vullaby and Onix that can KO Dewpider it easily.

Team Options
========

Wallbreakers and sweepers such as Grookey, Dragon Dance Scraggy, Nasty Plot Vullaby, and Woobat appreciate the valuable speed control provided by Sticky Web to outspeed foes. Pawniard can take advantage of Dewpider setting up Sticky Web to gain a Defiant boost; checks to Pawniard it such as Timburr, Mienfoo, and Mudbray are valuable teammates for Dewpider. Checks to Flying-types like Onix, Magnemite, and Chinchou help against Vullaby and Wingull that, (AC) since they ignore Sticky Web and can OHKO Dewpider, although Chinchou is mediocre outside of this role. Finally, trapping support from Diglett and Trapinch can be helpful, removing Pokemon like Onix and Mareanie that threaten Dewpider.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Substitute can be used in tandem with Berry Juice to set up on Timburr and Ponyta to provide more opportunities to attack. Magic Coat allows Dewpider to bounce back entry hazards and status moves from Ferroseed and Toxic Spikes Mareanie and retain momentum. Mirror Coat lets Dewpider threaten unsuspecting Mareanie and Foongus that carelessly fire off Sludge Bomb.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Water-resistant Pokemon**: Mareanie, Foongus, and Ferroseed resist Dewpider's STAB moves. The former two can punish Dewpider with a strong Sludge Bomb, while the latter can cripple it with Thunder Wave or Knock Off. Staryu critically damages Dewpider with Thunderbolt and can utilize Rapid Spin to remove Sticky Web.

** Grookey**: Grookey can OHKO Dewpider with Wood Hammer and revenge kill a weakened Dewpider one with Grassy Glide.

**Flying-types**: Flying-types such as Vullaby and Wingull outspeed Dewpider and can KO it with Brave Bird and Hurricane, respectively. Vullaby's superb bulk, complemented by its immunity to Sticky Web, allows it to serve as the best Sticky Web remover.

**Rock-types**: Onix, Archen, and Tyrunt outspeed Dewpider and threaten it with a powerful Head Smash or Rock Blast. Sturdyjuice Sturdy + Berry Juice Onix can survive a Surf and recover back to full health, potentially letting it attack or set up Stealth Rock, while Archen is immune to Sticky Web and can KO Dewpider thru through its Focus Sash with Dual Wingbeat.

**Croagunk**: Croagunk is immune to Surf thanks to Dry Skin (clarity) and does not take much damage from Dewpider's other moves. It can utilize Nasty Plot to set up on Dewpider and become a formidable offensive threat.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[DC, 449990]]
- Quality checked by: [[KSG, 32350], [Fiend, 208173], [San Tomas, 255030]]
- Grammar checked by: [[, ], [, ]]
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[OVERVIEW]

Dewpider stands out as LC's premier Sticky Web setter due to its ability Water Bubble and decent bulk. This These traits, in tandem with its typing, allows allow Dewpider to pressure prominent threats such as Ponyta, Mienfoo, and Timburr, limiting the latter's ability to successfully utilize Defog. However, Dewpider's typing and lackluster Speed stat give it a weakness to Stealth Rock and leave it vulnerable to common threats such as Onix, Vullaby, and Wingull. Furthermore, Dewpider suffers from a mediocre Special Attack stat, resulting in low damage output from attacks not boosted by Water Bubble.

[SET]
name: Sticky Web
move 1: Sticky Web
move 2: Surf
move 3: Icy Wind
move 4: Giga Drain
item: Focus Sash / Berry Juice
ability: Water Bubble
nature: Modest
evs: 52 HP / 20 Def / 196 SpA / 20 SpD / 220 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Sticky Web provides crucial speed control for Dewpider's teammates. Boosted by Water Bubble, Surf is an immensely powerful move that threatens common foes such as Ponyta and Mienfoo. Icy Wind allows Dewpider to slow down faster threats such as Vullaby and Wingull that switch into it and KO them afterwards with Surf, while Giga Drain serves as coverage against opposing Water-types like Staryu.

Set Details
========

Water Bubble doubles the power of Dewpider's Surf, halves the damage of Fire-type moves, and gives it an immunity to burns, letting Dewpider it check non-Wild Charge variants of Ponyta. The EV spread maximizes Special Attack and Speed, allowing Dewpider to Speed tie fast with Timburr and outspeed Onix and Vullaby after a Speed drop from Sticky Web or Icy Wind, respectively. Focus Sash is the preferred item, allowing Dewpider to always set up Sticky Web against non-multi-hit(AH) moves at full health, although Berry Juice can be utilized to provide recovery.

Usage Tips
========

Dewpider is capable of functioning as a lead, setting Sticky Web early and using Icy Wind to provide speed control that can be taken advantage of by its teammates. Furthermore, it is able to punish switch-ins from opposing Defog users Defoggers such as Timburr and Vullaby when they switch in by severely damaging them with a powerful Water Bubble-boosted Surf or,(AC) in the case of Vullaby, hitting it with Icy Wind. Dewpider can also switch in on Pokemon such as Mienfoo, Timburr, and Ponyta and force them out to set Sticky Web. However, it should not lead or stay in to set Sticky Web against faster threats such as Vullaby and Onix that can KO it easily.

Team Options
========

Wallbreakers and sweepers such as Grookey, Dragon Dance Scraggy, Nasty Plot Vullaby, and Woobat appreciate the valuable speed control provided by Sticky Web to outspeed foes. Pawniard can take advantage of Dewpider setting Sticky Web to gain a Defiant boost; checks to it such as Timburr, Mienfoo, and Mudbray are valuable teammates for Dewpider. Checks to Flying-types like Onix, Magnemite, and Chinchou help against Vullaby and Wingull, since they ignore Sticky Web and can OHKO Dewpider Since Flying-types like Vullaby and Wingull ignore Sticky Web and can OHKO Dewpider, checks to them like Onix, Magnemite, and Chinchou are helpful, although Chinchou is mediocre outside of this role. Finally, trapping support from Diglett and Trapinch can be helpful, removing Pokemon like Onix and Mareanie that threaten Dewpider.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Substitute can be used in tandem with Berry Juice to set up on Timburr and Ponyta to and provide more opportunities to attack. Magic Coat allows Dewpider to bounce back entry hazards and status moves from Ferroseed and Toxic Spikes Mareanie and retain momentum. Mirror Coat lets Dewpider threaten unsuspecting Mareanie and Foongus that carelessly fire off Sludge Bomb.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Water-resistant Pokemon**: Mareanie, Foongus, and Ferroseed resist Dewpider's STAB moves. The former two can punish Dewpider with a strong Sludge Bomb, while the latter can cripple it with Thunder Wave or Knock Off. Staryu critically damages Dewpider with Thunderbolt and can utilize Rapid Spin to remove Sticky Web.

**Grookey**: Grookey can OHKO Dewpider with Wood Hammer and revenge kill a weakened one with Grassy Glide.

**Flying-types**: Flying-types such as Vullaby and Wingull outspeed Dewpider and can KO it with Brave Bird and Hurricane, respectively. Vullaby's superb bulk, complemented by its immunity to Sticky Web, allows it to serve as the best Sticky Web remover.

**Rock-types**: Onix, Archen, and Tyrunt outspeed Dewpider and threaten it with a powerful Head Smash or Rock Blast. Sturdy + Berry Juice Onix can survive a Surf and recover back to full health, potentially letting it attack or set Stealth Rock, while Archen is immune to Sticky Web and can KO Dewpider through its Focus Sash with Dual Wingbeat or Rock Blast.

**Croagunk**: Croagunk is immune to Surf thanks to Dry Skin and does not take much damage from Dewpider's other moves. It can utilize Nasty Plot to set up on Dewpider and become a formidable offensive threat.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[DC, 449990]]
- Quality checked by: [[KSG, 32350], [Fiend, 208173], [San Tomas, 255030]]
- Grammar checked by: [[Estronic, 240732], [, ]]

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