Does Yawning violate the Sleep Clause?

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I'm building a team basing on forcing switches with the move Yawn. As we all know, Yawn induces sleep not directly, but at the end of the following turn. Therefore, its primary purpose is not to sleep the foe, but to force the foe to switch to either give yourself a free switch or hurt the foe with an attack or with Stealth Rock and Spikes.

What I am concerned is what if my opponent leaves the drowsy pokemon in play so that it becomes asleep? Is my opponent then protected by the Sleep Clause (where one can only put one of the opponents pokemon to sleep)?

So, in essence, in standard play, does the move Yawn affect the sleep clause when one of the opponent's pokemon is already asleep?
Sorry if this is common sense or if I have posted in the wrong place. I have been lurking a lot, but it's the first time I have posted here.
 
You could however, possibly Yawn, and if they don't switch, T-Wave or WoW them the next turn so that they're protected from Sleep.
 
any status condition would block the yawn´d pokemon from falling asleep

I just used my 2000th post to say that.
 
Only if you've already put something to Sleep.

If the purpose of Yawn is to force switches, though, and you status after yawning, you're only going to force one switch.
 
True, but once his opponenet is status'd, it'd have a drop in either speed or attack (unless it's toxic) which means either they're going to switch anyways, or you can come in with a different pokemon and set up.
 
To be more descript:
ALL moves that inflict sleep, aside from Rest, activate sleep clause. This would even apply to a damaging attack with a small chance of inflicting sleep (if there were such a thing, which there is not).
 
Well, what about Effect spore? Say you put an opponent to sleep, then their next pokemon attacks, and gets sleeped by Effect spore? Can Effect spore even sleep?
 
This topic has reignited my concerns regarding the use of Wobbuffet in the upcoming Wi-fi tournament.
Lets say one player switches into a (slower LOL) pokemon that uses Yawn. Their Wobbuffet can then Encore this move and fall asleep at the end of the turn. Now Wobbuffet will switch out to another pokemon, leaving the opponent stuck using Yawn. All this player would then need to do is survive until the end of the next turn (Protect would make sure of this), thus guaranteeing it’ll fall asleep. They could then accuse their opponent of violating Sleep Clause, therefore achieving a cheap victory.
Now I must admit this is a very unlikely scenario, but it is nonetheless a possibility, and it is imperative that the tournament rules are crystal clear to ALL competitors prior to its commencement.
Surely such a cheap strategy would be grossly unfair, so any clarification on this from tournament organizers would be greatly appreciated. Also, apologies in advance if this is posted in the wrong board.
 
That depends on the tournament directors, I think. Under Nintendo's rules, at least, yes, that would violate Sleep Clause and you would be disqualified. I actually considered using a Lum Berry Wobbuffet in JAA for that exact reason, but decided against it.

To be more descript:
ALL moves that inflict sleep, aside from Rest, activate sleep clause. This would even apply to a damaging attack with a small chance of inflicting sleep (if there were such a thing, which there is not).
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Secret Power in Tall Grass.

Effect Spore can Sleep, yes, and again, by Nintendo's rules, you would disqualified.

There was actually a person disqualified from JAA for violating Freeze Clause, or so a bracket's notation and some people who were there claimed.
 
JAA only use the Colosseum set-up for finals and stuff? I thought Nintendo did all their official stuff in venues that have Sleep Clause (and others) built-in.
 
ALL moves that inflict sleep, aside from Rest, activate sleep clause. This would even apply to a damaging attack with a small chance of inflicting sleep (if there were such a thing, which there is not).
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IIRC, on NB if Effect Spore (the trait) could put an attacker to sleep despite sleep clause.
 
Mr.E said:
JAA only use the Colosseum set-up for finals and stuff? I thought Nintendo did all their official stuff in venues that have Sleep Clause (and others) built-in.
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The rules that I received said not that it is impossible to put multiple Pokemon to Sleep or to Freeze multiple Pokemon, but rather, that doing so is grounds for disqualification.
 
Actually you couldn't yawn + thunder wave even. If they switch a ground pokemon into your yawn, then you can't para them, violating sleep clause.
 
massi4h said:
Actually you couldn't yawn + thunder wave even. If they switch a ground pokemon into your yawn, then you can't para them, violating sleep clause.
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Stun Spore. Of course, it's only got 75 accuracy, but if you use it on something with Compound Eyes (or another accuracy trait/item booster), then it gets bumped up to something like... 90 accuracy, I believe.

Edit: Also, if they switched, Sleep clause isn't violated... the Pokemon that got yawned is out of play, can't be put to sleep, and you'd have to re-yawn your new opponent.
 
Yeah but the fact that it can miss gives you a chance of violating sleep clause. And I was just stating how it wasn't usable as "ShadowNinja X7" had mentioned it as an idea.
 
I think that's kind've ridiculous that if it's your opponent's doing that they get slept twice (like that Encore'd Yawn), you get disqualified. Hell, that's a cheaper tactic than just sleeping the entire enemy's team.
 
Lord Gloom said:
I think that's kind've ridiculous that if it's your opponent's doing that they get slept twice (like that Encore'd Yawn), you get disqualified. Hell, that's a cheaper tactic than just sleeping the entire enemy's team.
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My thoughts exactly, which is why it is important that the rules are made clear beforehand.
Also, Boa1891, I wasn’t implying that I favour or condone underhand tactics, I’m just a bit concerned about the potential exploitation of Wobbuffet to ensure cheap victories. I mean, its daft to think that anyone planning to use Yawn would need to run 272+ Spd on that pokemon just to make absolutely sure they don’t get screwed over by this cheap trick.
 
Lord Gloom said:
I think that's kind've ridiculous that if it's your opponent's doing that they get slept twice (like that Encore'd Yawn), you get disqualified. Hell, that's a cheaper tactic than just sleeping the entire enemy's team.
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Sleep is already an awesome status, doing something that makes using it deadly is fine. If you don't want to get DQed for breaking sleep clause, you need to be careful and take things like this into account.
 
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